MRP

[estibador]

Spiv, not sure about that. Fyfe isn't the only one done for head clashes this year.

The only other one was done the same week as Fyfe, since then there have been several identical head clashes during bumps that haven't even been cited.

 

[slicedndiced]

F*ck knows why. Fear of media repercussions is my guess... my other suspicion is that it's fear of the legal teams that certain clubs can muster.

Nah. We can muster a team of SC's at a moments notice if we want to.

This whole persecution complex is getting embarrassing.

Sometimes life just isn't fair. Yes, Fyfe copped a rough one, but this never ending moaning proves nothing.

If everyone is so genuinely distraught about this, then mobilise and organise yourselves, lobby the AFL, the MRP and Mark Evans and attempt to make some change. At least tell them how pissed off you all are.

But, as usual, nobody will, and this time next year everyone will be pissing and moaning again.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

The only other one was done the same week as Fyfe, since then there have been several identical head clashes during bumps that haven't even been cited.

Including the recent incident that had Sandilands off the field with the blood rule. Not even looked at.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

Nah. We can muster a team of SC's at a moments notice if we want to.

Perhaps, but they haven't won a case yet, have they?

 

[slicedndiced]

Perhaps, but they haven't won a case yet, have they?

Not the point

 

[Reginald Perrin]

Not the point

The point was that the MRP might fear clubs with a strong legal team. We may be able to assemble a team, but they haven't got any runs on the board, so hardly the type of thing the MRP might be wary of.

 

[slicedndiced]

The point was that the MRP might fear clubs with a strong legal team. We may be able to assemble a team, but they haven't got any runs on the board, so hardly the type of thing the MRP might be wary of.

The cases we have appealed, (Fyfe last year), have been pretty much unwinnable though, (despite the obvious moral unfairness).

The stage of the season is also a factor. For example, there is no way in hell that Barry Hall would have got off if it wasn't the finals series.

Trying to point out that our legal team is somehow inferior to those of other teams is really a little ridiculous when you consider the facts.

 

[scon]

What about sending over a 6 pack of MUA ten rounders to carry their briefs??

 

[strobe00]

The cases we have appealed, (Fyfe last year), have been pretty much unwinnable though, (despite the obvious moral unfairness).

The stage of the season is also a factor. For example, there is no way in hell that Barry Hall would have got off if it wasn't the finals series.

Trying to point out that our legal team is somehow inferior to those of other teams is really a little ridiculous when you consider the facts.

I dunno. I thought hodge jumping off the ground to shoulder Henderson in the face a couple of years back was pretty much an open and shut case of a negligent or reckless high bump.

Their team got it reversed at the tribunal to being a legal action and no penalty.

We haven't won a single case from memory of getting a penalty factor downgraded or a charge omitted. I remember thinking that the approach in the fyfe case made it too easy for the tribunal to stick with the verdict of the mrp.

Obviously I'm not a lawyer so my opinion means squat, but until we challenge and win one I'll retain my little theory that the mrp isn't particularly worried by our legal team.

 

[Bender571]

The cases we have appealed, (Fyfe last year), have been pretty much unwinnable though, (despite the obvious moral unfairness).

I thought we had a good chance in that case where we had a player accused of committing an offence every 24 seconds, despite there being zero evidence from the cameras, officials or medical reports.

but this never ending moaning proves nothing.

As does the moaning about moaning.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

The cases we have appealed, (Fyfe last year), have been pretty much unwinnable though, (despite the obvious moral unfairness).

The stage of the season is also a factor. For example, there is no way in hell that Barry Hall would have got off if it wasn't the finals series.

Trying to point out that our legal team is somehow inferior to those of other teams is really a little ridiculous when you consider the facts.

Admittedly I'm relying on memory, but I can't recall a single case where our arguments were accepted.

If we're appealing unwinnable cases, doesn't that tell you something about the quality of the legal advice?

 

[scon]

I thought we had a good chance in that case where we had a player accused of committing and offence every 24 seconds, despite there being zero evidence from the cameras, officials or medical reports.

This is the most revealing and pertinent case for mine.RTB made it clear the appeal was launched very much on Creepy's instigation(same thing with Cleaver's kicking charge).So it's not entirely the club which chooses which blues to fight.
Then the stunning reversal of natural justice with the tribunal basically assuming Creepy's guilt without empirical evidence of any description.

 

[slicedndiced]

As does the moaning about moaning.

My point is though, that instead of moaning, actually do something about it.

This is the biggest footy forum in the land, (I think), and a perfect platform to gather public support, in an organised and professional manner, and submit these constant bitches, (from all clubs, not just ours), to the powers that be in a manner where the AFL has to at least acknowledge it..

I considered organising something after the Fyfe incident, and even had positive preliminary discussions with some people on here, but came to the conclusion that the stereotypical Australian apathy would render it a useless exercise. Hence, I just accept the decisions without question as nothing will change until people get off their arse.

I really don't understand the attitude of constantly crying about something, year after year, yet doing exactly zero about it.

 

[Bender571]

My point is though, that instead of moaning, actually do something about it.

My point was that you moan about our persecution complex, people making changes threads, mods, etc and as far as I can tell nothing has changed.
Moaning doesn't always have to affect change, this forum is mainly for disusing and sharing opinions, that includes moaning/venting about things.

 

[slicedndiced]

My point was that you moan about our persecution complex, people making changes threads, mods, etc and as far as I can tell nothing has changed.
Moaning doesn't always have to affect change, this forum is mainly for disusing and sharing opinions, that includes moaning/venting about things.

Do you think that a changes thread 5 minutes after a game adds to the intellectual discussion level of the board? It's a f***en joke and unparalleled anywhere else on BF.

Does Sabre still mod here? And a few other changes that may have gone unnoticed?

Did I instigate the first BF supporters piss up?

Did I instigate the first Podcasts on here?

I have a record of action on here, against pissing and moaning.

Be happy wallowing in your, and others, "poor bugger me" complex.

I want no part of it.

 

[Bender571]

Do you think that a changes thread 5 minutes after a game adds to the intellectual discussion level of the board? It's a f***en joke and unparalleled anywhere else on BF.

Does Sabre still mod here? And a few other changes that may have gone unnoticed?

Did I instigate the first BF supporters piss up?

Did I instigate the first Podcasts on here?

I have a record of action on here, against pissing and moaning.

I think Obama ran with a similar platform.

Be happy wallowing in your, and others, "poor bugger me" complex.

I want no part of it.

Except to piss and moan about it.

 

[strobe00]

This is the most revealing and pertinent case for mine.RTB made it clear the appeal was launched very much on Creepy's instigation(same thing with Cleaver's kicking charge).So it's not entirely the club which chooses which blues to fight.
Then the stunning reversal of natural justice with the tribunal basically assuming Creepy's guilt without empirical evidence of any description.

In the absence of empirical evidence, the tribunal can source evidence from testimony. Unlike the GAJ special that happened this week, the "Picken" in Crowls' case was the same bloke that was trying to get him in the sh*t. So it turned out a he said (Crowls) / she said (Harvey) thing. They favoured her argument in this case.

I can't actually remember the last case of a player dobbing another player in. I'm sure it's happened before... but it seems like it's been a good, long while.

 

[slicedndiced]

Except to piss and moan about it.

Again, if people are apathetic enough to accept it, yet constantly piss and moan about, then yep I'll have a crack at them. Australian's are world champion whingers, (including the poms), and conversely, world champion "do nothings" about their complaint.

You have the vehicle in Big Footy to get someone like Mark Evans onto the main board podcast and ask him the difficult questions from a fans perspective, (which would be a first I do believe). But no. All too hard.

You could even lobby the FFC and get Rosich, Harris or Bond on for a chat on our podcast and get a club perspective on what is ailing the supporter base, but no, that would take too much effort. Someone might have to do something.

So let's all sit here and piss and moan and screech about how the world is against little old Freo and do diddly squat about it, as usual.

FMD

 

[Freo_4eva]

The only other one was done the same week as Fyfe, since then there have been several identical head clashes during bumps that haven't even been cited.

The Steven May one? Cant remember if it was the same week or the week after.. , exact same action.. got sighted but he got off because he argued he had no other option as the player had already kicked the ball so a tackle would result in a free kick. Which is what fyfe should have argued but we didnt want to risk getting reamed by the MRP as we always do

 

[Kram]

And Goodes gets off because he plays for Sydney and has a tan.

 

[estibador]

So I hear Harvey got off. Saw the video earlier and couldn't help but compare the force of that to Fyfe's little toe poke that was worth 2 weeks.

 

[Beetlebum]

What punishment for Ballas came from the McAveney Review Panel?

 

[Admiral Byng]

Harvey and Yarran should both have got reprimands and some points for their little cheap shots.

 

[Admiral Byng]

What punishment for Ballas came from the McAveney Review Panel?

Bruce stamped his foot and held his breath for several minutes.

 

[Spirit Level]

Goodes gets off for leaving the ground and making forceful contact to the head, Fyfe bumps with a tiny incidental head clash, two weeks.

This game is going down the ****ing toilet