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gouki88 said:
I don't think he's remotely close to a lynch pin, especially given that he's been dropped this season. We also completely turned the game around in his absence. He's a battler, but he butchers our movement forward, which we can't afford. Greenwood is a much better fit for this team than Mayne
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Yep. 100%

Mayne is a brave player that is liked and respected.

He is also a momentum killer.
 

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steelebottom22 said:
There is no player on our list that I'd love to see with a premiership medal I love mayney big man crush
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you must one of the few.... in most cases for the rest of us, it's a question of whether we hate him or are indifferent to him. Some of us, like myself, hated him in the first year but then we became indifferent when he improved his game.
 
Markfs said:
you must one of the few.... in most cases for the rest of us, it's a question of whether we hate him or are indifferent to him. Some of us, like myself, hated him in the first year but then we became indifferent when he improved his game.
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Yeah right

Most on here expected a Phil Carmen athlete with Barry price kicking skills

More surreal expectations
His job is to be a defensive winger
Constantly filling holes

18 players on the field
A team is the sum of all parts

As last night was probably his last game

I thank him for his services
Huge respect

To think at his size he played chf in a grand final team

Great carear
 
Rohan25 said:
If you say so.
I’m pretty sure you’re in for a shock though...
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Don't get me wrong, I won't be surprised if Bucks picks him ahead of someone who is likely more deserving. He's done it before.

But it won't last long. Mayne is 32 in November, and has played 229 games with a significant form drop this year in almost every regard. If Greenwood stays fit I just don't see Mayne making it back given Greenwood is a bit younger than him and does far more for us
 

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gouki88 said:
Don't get me wrong, I won't be surprised if Bucks picks him ahead of someone who is likely more deserving. He's done it before.

But it won't last long. Mayne is 32 in November, and has played 229 games with a significant form drop this year in almost every regard. If Greenwood stays fit I just don't see Mayne making it back given Greenwood is a bit younger than him and does far more for us
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I don't think he's competing with Greenwood, but that's just semantics. There’s no way last night was Chris Mayne’s last act for Collingwood on a football field. There’s more to a football club and its culture than the mere sum of its parts, there are intangibles, acts of solidarity that makes everyone walk taller.

Collingwood don’t let players cop horrific injuries and then say goodbye to them (unless the player chooses to retire or seeks a trade themselves). Whether its a 12 month knee injury, wrapping your leg around a goalpost, getting your face caved in by standing in front of an oncoming truck in Cripps etc. these things all but guarantee you another year and a recall to the seniors. To do otherwise would devastate the playing group and ensure players were more reluctant to put their body on the line, or "play hurt", knowing their career could be over if they do.

I recall one of the old end of year forums where someone got up and asked why we hadn't delisted Scharenberg after his second knee reconstruction. Derek Hine - or maybe it was the footy manager at that time - responded by saying that we are not in the habit of sacking players who get seriously injured while playing for Collingwood.

It's not merely about being nice, it's about letting the players know that we will look after those who look after us. It's about instilling a strong culture into the fabric of a club that will exist in the walls long after everyone there now is gone.

It seems the first thing all our fans want to do whenever a player seriously hurts themselves is say "see ya later". So many of our fans were happy to retire Greenwood when he did his knee - now we are all delighted to see him back...

What we saw last night from Mayne was pure bravery and commitment to the cause. Anyone who thinks he isn't playing for Collingwood again after that is just plain wrong. Knowing how hard he works, I wouldn't be surprised if he finds a way back this year, but even if he doesn't, you can mark him down as a certainty for rd.1 next year.
 
Rohan25 said:
I don't think he's competing with Greenwood, but that's just semantics. There’s no way last night was Chris Mayne’s last act for Collingwood on a football field. There’s more to a football club and its culture than the mere sum of its parts, there are intangibles, acts of solidarity that makes everyone walk taller.

Collingwood don’t let players cop horrific injuries and then say goodbye to them (unless the player chooses to retire or seeks a trade themselves). Whether its a 12 month knee injury, wrapping your leg around a goalpost, getting your face caved in by standing in front of an oncoming truck in Cripps etc. these things all but guarantee you another year and a recall to the seniors. To do otherwise would devastate the playing group and ensure players were more reluctant to put their body on the line, or "play hurt", knowing their career could be over if they do.

I recall one of the old end of year forums where someone got up and asked why we hadn't delisted Scharenberg after his second knee reconstruction. Derek Hine - or maybe it was the footy manager at that time - responded by saying that we are not in the habit of sacking players who get seriously injured while playing for Collingwood.

It's not merely about being nice, it's about letting the players know that we will look after those who look after us. It's about instilling a strong culture into the fabric of a club that will exist in the walls long after everyone there now is gone.

It seems the first thing all our fans want to do whenever a player seriously hurts themselves is say "see ya later". So many of our fans were happy to retire Greenwood when he did his knee - now we are all delighted to see him back...

What we saw last night from Mayne was pure bravery and commitment to the cause. Anyone who thinks he isn't playing for Collingwood again after that is just plain wrong. Knowing how hard he works, I wouldn't be surprised if he finds a way back this year, but even if he doesn't, you can mark him down as a certainty for rd.1 next year.
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You're likely correct, our sentimentality for players who get hurt onfield has become a hallmark of our culture. For better or worse.

I just don't see why it's such a certainty that he walks right back into our best 22, regardless of the manner in which he went down. If we're playing blokes because they got hurt bravely rather than what they actually do on the field and on the track we have completely and utterly lost the plot. All the guys that return from injury have had to jump through serious hoops playing lots of reserve footy, whether that's Greenwood, Shaz, Broomhead or Langdon. Mayne should have to do the same, given he's one of our worse performers.

Given full health, who in this side does he supplant RD.1 next year:

FB: Maynard - Roughead - Howe
HB: Quaynor - Moore - Crisp
C: Sidebottom - Adams - Daicos
HF: Elliott - Cox - Mihocek
FF: Stephenson - De Goey - Kelly
FOL: Grundy - Pendlebury - Treloar
INT: Sier - Thomas - Greenwood - Noble

With Langdon, the Brown brothers, Murphy, Hoskin-Elliott, Bianco, Rantall and our upcoming NGA prospect McInnes (alongside a likely 1st round draft pick) all on the fringes alongside Mayne.

In what world is he a walk on in that team? If he can pip those guys based on sentimentality then we've truly shat the bed
 
This thread is literally about his bravery in that one contest.

People farewelling him from the club and talking to his inability to maintain his spot in the 22 have completely missed the point.

Have a look at what that act meant to the players and what they had to say about it on Twitter.

An act like that can spark a season. And Mayney does it over and over again.


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Heritier 09 said:
This thread is literally about his bravery in that one contest.

People farewelling him from the club and talking to his inability to maintain his spot in the 22 have completely missed the point.

Have a look at what that act meant to the players and what they had to say about it on Twitter.

An act like that can spark a season. And Mayney does it over and over again.


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It's possible to both admire his bravery and discuss how he's nearing the end in the same thread. Nobody is even hinting at denying how respected he is
 
If we're all honest, the only real reason we won 2010 was because of the heart of soul/act of bravery from one of our biggest heart and soul players - Nick Maxwell. What he lacked in skill he made up for in pulling up the bootstraps.

Mayne personifies this in our current line-up. Maybe it will be fate that one effort of his in a crunch match will help us win that new premiership. I would like that to happen for many reasons, not least of all to demonstrate that it's hundreds of small acts like absorbing that bump that takes us there.

Get well soon fella. And if reconstructive surgery is required, maybe we suddenly welcome Brad Pitt back to the line-up in a few weeks :D
 

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The Sherriff said:
Get well soon fella. And if reconstructive surgery is required, maybe we suddenly welcome Brad Pitt back to the line-up in a few weeks :D
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evidently his exceptionally cute wife likes her men ugly.... and while she was initially worried about chris's health, she was ecstatic on seeing his face in hospital last night
 
gouki88 said:
It's possible to both admire his bravery and discuss how he's nearing the end in the same thread. Nobody is even hinting at denying how respected he is
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maybe as a compromise we can discuss how respectfully we're going to ditch him... it's a fine balance. I still tear up about his first year. I put everything into it.
 
gouki88 said:
You're likely correct, our sentimentality for players who get hurt onfield has become a hallmark of our culture. For better or worse.

I just don't see why it's such a certainty that he walks right back into our best 22, regardless of the manner in which he went down. If we're playing blokes because they got hurt bravely rather than what they actually do on the field and on the track we have completely and utterly lost the plot. All the guys that return from injury have had to jump through serious hoops playing lots of reserve footy, whether that's Greenwood, Shaz, Broomhead or Langdon. Mayne should have to do the same, given he's one of our worse performers.

Given full health, who in this side does he supplant RD.1 next year:

FB: Maynard - Roughead - Howe
HB: Quaynor - Moore - Crisp
C: Sidebottom - Adams - Daicos
HF: Elliott - Cox - Mihocek
FF: Stephenson - De Goey - Kelly
FOL: Grundy - Pendlebury - Treloar
INT: Sier - Thomas - Greenwood - Noble

With Langdon, the Brown brothers, Murphy, Hoskin-Elliott, Bianco, Rantall and our upcoming NGA prospect McInnes (alongside a likely 1st round draft pick) all on the fringes alongside Mayne.

In what world is he a walk on in that team? If he can pip those guys based on sentimentality then we've truly shat the bed
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You know he's out of contract 2020
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