Mundy you weak bastard!

[Mundy]

Mundy has balls of steel, leave him alone, all of you.

 

[DizzyHB]

Mundy + Murphy to the Bulldogs for their first round pick

 

[greennick]

Not just that, but when Mundy was finally moved out of the centre in the 3rd, we stopped being smashed as badly through there. As soon as he goes back in there in the last, we're smashed again.

Not to mention most of those 18 possessions were picked up on the backline, AND Mundy was designated for kick-ins. Easy to get a kick when that happens.

You don't get a kick for a kick-in, unless you play on to yourself and then end up kicking it after.

 

[Clay Davis]

You don't get a kick for a kick-in, unless you play on to yourself and then end up kicking it after.

Pretty sure those are just the rules for DT.

 

[greennick]

Pretty sure those are just the rules for DT.

DT just uses the Champion Data stats, how could they know who did the kick-ins to remove those stats? I have never seen a separate stat for that. Also, for games where there is 20+ points kicked and a designated kicker, you don't see him end up with a ridiculous amount of kicks.

 

[Clay Davis]

You mean like Duffield in round 6?

 

[Mundy]

Pretty sure those are just the rules for DT.

No, they are the rules.

Mundy earned 18 posessions.

 

[Clay Davis]

No, they are the rules.

Mundy earned 18 posessions.

They are counted in SC, though.

Mundy sucked.

 

[greennick]

You mean like Duffield in round 6?

I thought he had a lot of kicks around the ground, at least that is how I remember it, however that is not a game that is entrenched in my memory for obvious reasons. Did he take all the kick-ins? If that counts as a kick, then when a player plays on to himself and then kicks it, would that be two kicks?

 

[Bradesmaen]

Mundy wasn't great, but tell me who was. He atleast chased hard this game (I was at the game till the final siren), chased harder than Duffied. Duffield proved himself to be lazy once again, with those two shots on goal, also when he got smothered he stood and watched as Adelaide moved it across the ground and had a shot on goal, 20 seconds total he moved less than 20m. Very very lazy. Everyone says Mundy is lazy, hey, atleast he chases even though he might be slow. There were times that he was 1 on 3 and kept chasing between the players who were sharing the ball.

 

[freocynic]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the score was 69-1 at half time, yes? And Mundy, a senior player with 100 games of experience, had had 2 possessions, even though he had bene playing a fair bit in the middle?

Yeah, he got some cheap touches in the second half, but by the horse had not only bolted, but made it out onto the highway and caused a major collision.

Yes i agree. That stats from the first half are the only ones that should be looked at when assessing this game. Does anyone know where i can find just the first half stats - I would be interested in seeing Haselby's & McPharlin's first half stats.

 

[greennick]

Why is Mundy slow? Is it plain lack of pace? Injury? Fitness?

What I'm getting at, is can it be fixed or will this just be a complaint for the rest of his career. I had high hopes for him last year. As a casual observer I actually thought he, while not quick, was certainly not slow.

 

[dominguez]

Who's Mundy allocated to in the WAFL?
Should be a big coup for them next week.

Subi.

 

[freocynic]

Spot the difference:

 

[samseenee]

^^^^
ROFL

Oh hang on one went searching for a heart.... the other wouldn't know what a heart was even if it came up and slapped them in the nurries

 

[shoe]

Mundy seems to be of the old fremantle...the chris connollys fremantle where football seems to be a nice little game to play on the weekends, but if you dont get the ball, hey it's not that big of a deal. At least after the game he can go home and have a nice warm bath, sit down in front of the fire and continue on with his knitting. And the next week it happens all over again. No need to exert any effort in the game, no need to raise a bead of sweat, after all, at the end of the day he will still get paid.

This is the exact reason that Harvey shouldn't get the boot yet & it probably shouldn't be considered til the end of 2010.
Cuddles managed to draft several of these type of blokes.. not shite, but not going to be a player either. Better than wafl players, but not good enough to hold a spot. Coupling this with his trading strategies has IMO left a sizeable hole in your list.

Harvey has already taken some massive steps in the right direction by starting the list cleanout and has already drafted more exciting talent than Connolly ever did, but the bloke can only work with what he's got. He's just gotta keep blooding youngsters until you can drop blokes like Mundy and Bradley permenantly..

I'm dreading the knee-jerk back page article in the worst today..

 

[Jetau]

Mundy wasn't great, but tell me who was. He atleast chased hard this game (I was at the game till the final siren), chased harder than Duffied. Duffield proved himself to be lazy once again, with those two shots on goal, also when he got smothered he stood and watched as Adelaide moved it across the ground and had a shot on goal, 20 seconds total he moved less than 20m. Very very lazy. Everyone says Mundy is lazy, hey, atleast he chases even though he might be slow. There were times that he was 1 on 3 and kept chasing between the players who were sharing the ball.

No, that's bullshit. Duffield's disposal wasn't great, but he was doing his best to carry the team. Mundy was thereabouts in the contest and I don't think it was that he wasn't trying, but he doesn't have the speed or the strength to extricate the ball from the contest. That's reality.

 

[Alfonz]

Mundy ran pretty fast when he had an open goal in front of him in the game against Carlton at Subi.

I think someone who sits high in the stands should bring a camera to the next game he plays and film him wandering aimlessly around, then send it to the club ... because they are obviously missing something. When I went into Mundy watch at the Collingwood game, what I saw was an absolute disgrace.

Out of that there are 2 points ...(1) our coaching staff are not diligent/thorough enough in reviewing each player's performance each week; and (2) if they did review his game, then they exhibited gross incompetence by not dropping him a few weeks ago.

 

[Bradesmaen]

No, that's bullshit. Duffield's disposal wasn't great, but he was doing his best to carry the team. Mundy was thereabouts in the contest and I don't think it was that he wasn't trying, but he doesn't have the speed or the strength to extricate the ball from the contest. That's reality.

So what bay were you sitting in on the weekend?

oh thats right, you weren't, you were watching your limited view on TV and making general assumptions like usual. Duffield is the laziest player at the club, which explains why he could never crack into the team over the last few years. He does not chase, he does not man up. You realise his man was McLeod at the start of the game, a man who ran riot in the first quarter as if he wasn't even being manned up.

 

[Rubber Pants]

So what bay were you sitting in on the weekend?

oh thats right, you weren't, you were watching your limited view on TV and making general assumptions like usual. Duffield is the laziest player at the club, which explains why he could never crack into the team over the last few years. He does not chase, he does not man up. You realise his man was McLeod at the start of the game, a man who ran riot in the first quarter as if he wasn't even being manned up.

I actually believe you get a better view of the game from TV. I go to every home game and the insight you get from the TV is so much better. There is just too much going on at the game to be able to catch everything.

For example Masten yesterday racked up the possesions but till half time he had only had one inside 50 and if you were at the game you'd think he was dominating but in reality he just wasn't damaging.

I think that's why the Brownlow voting is so flawed and why coaches go back to watch the tapes.

P.S I usually stand up for Mundy but as a senior player out there he was pathetic, no excuses.

 

[pistol17]

Mundy wasn't great, but tell me who was. He atleast chased hard this game (I was at the game till the final siren), chased harder than Duffied. Duffield proved himself to be lazy once again, with those two shots on goal, also when he got smothered he stood and watched as Adelaide moved it across the ground and had a shot on goal, 20 seconds total he moved less than 20m. Very very lazy. Everyone says Mundy is lazy, hey, atleast he chases even though he might be slow. There were times that he was 1 on 3 and kept chasing between the players who were sharing the ball.

Thats crap brademaen. This isnt about duffield, this is about Mundy who is a senior player at freo and is consistently mediocre. As a senior player Mundy should be setting an example for the young list we have. Ok fine he may have chased a few crows players but no way was he working hard enough to get the football.

Stats from the crows game:

5 Kicks
13 Handballs
2 Tackles
2 Marks
1 Clearance
7 Contested Possessions
78% Disposal Efficiency
3 Clangers

If you look at the bolded stats it makes Mundy's games look a little better but having said that 78% efficiency can be put down to the 13 handballs. Easier to hit the handball target than a kick, and that stat doesnt show how many times Mundy's handball went to a team mate under pressure.

2 Disposals to half time from a guy who plays in the centre square is a disgrace and if Harvey had the cattle to choose from Mundy would be playing WAFL this weekend. The guy needs to go, I dont care if he turns out as an all-australian at another club, cos he isnt helping our club go anywhere at the moment. Leadership potential my a$$....

 

[hoss]

Well after watching the game again, I agree that Duffield wasn't great and does have a lazy streak. Sure he's been our big improver this year with some fantastic games, but his disposal can still be extremely average ie. lazy half-assed kicks, turnovers with sloppy handballs etc. He seemed more interested on Sat night of 'collecting stats' ala Joel Bowden, Andrew Embley style (even kicking to himself in the square to bump those stats up) rather than doing anything constructive.

That said, he's a much harder player than Mundy.

 

[Belnakor]

That said, he's a much harder player than Mundy.

So is my grandma.

 

[salim malik]

So what bay were you sitting in on the weekend?

oh thats right, you weren't, you were watching your limited view on TV and making general assumptions like usual. Duffield is the laziest player at the club, which explains why he could never crack into the team over the last few years. He does not chase, he does not man up. You realise his man was McLeod at the start of the game, a man who ran riot in the first quarter as if he wasn't even being manned up.

Your unfair criticism of Duffield and the weak attempt to divert attention from Mundy and his undoubted faults just shows the lengths you will go to get your flawed support for him across.Open your mind and your eyes.

 

[Stronzo]

Just watched the last half of the game, didn't think he was too bad. Don't know what happened in the first half though, I couldn't bring myself to watch it.