N. Riewoldt

[meat-head]

play him will ya!!! he is great better then some other players how are playing now

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

FYI People.

YOU CANNOT TRADE YOUR PRIORITY PICK

Trust me, I'm a Carlton supporter - I know all about the draft rules ! LOL

 

[jackson_rules]

and then you woke up!

**** off ********

 

[jackson_rules]

FYI People.

YOU CANNOT TRADE YOUR PRIORITY PICK

Trust me, I'm a Carlton supporter - I know all about the draft rules ! LOL

yes but our priority pick will be in the 2nd round, trust me im a richmond supporter i know the current draft rules ! LOL

 

[lids2004roar]

EVeryone's gotta remember that No 1 picks can be duds too.

With the money spent on recruiting these days I'd say it is downright impossible not to pick up a very good player at the least! #1 picks are certain to be great players imo.


About trading PP's, didn't Freo originally have the #1 pick in the 2001 draft but downgrade it to get Croad?

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

yes but our priority pick will be in the 2nd round, trust me im a richmond supporter i know the current draft rules ! LOL

It doesn't matter.

Priority Draft Picks CANNOT be traded.

It's an AFL rule that was enforced after Freo traded theirs to Hawthorn.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

About trading PP's, didn't Freo originally have the #1 pick in the 2001 draft but downgrade it to get Croad?

Thats what prompted the AFL to change it.

Now nobody can trade theirs - as it's a compensatory pick.

 

[TFLUA-Tiger]

It's a good rule then. Well done AFL.

 

[beaver fever]

Cruezer in all probability will develop into a very good player. Riewoldt already is and always will be a gun. In other words, 'better the devil you know'. Providing we can still maintain two or three picks in the first 30 on draft day, I say 'come on down, Nick Riewoldt'.

The problem with that is that Kruezer can help to fill an area we are weak in (rucks), while Nick Riewoldt will add to our already plentiful list of KP forwards, (Hughes, J.Riewoldt, Richardson, Schulz, Kingsley)

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

The problem with that is that Kruezer can help to fill an area we are weak in (rucks), while Nick Riewoldt will add to our already plentiful list of KP forwards, (Hughes, J.Riewoldt, Richardson, Schulz, Kingsley)

Sorry, don't mean to be a pest on the Richmond Board.

But with Kruezer you get the best of both worlds.

When playing as a KP forward - he reminds me of Mitch Clark with his height and athleticism.

Drafting Kruezer would do wonders for both your ruck stocks, and your forward line.

It's really 2 birds with one stone. - Thats not saying you shouldnt take Reiwoldt though , that would be downright nutty.

 

[TFLUA-Tiger]

In no way are you being a pest, a balanced opinion is what is needed. I agree, and think that Richmond should rebuild not try and make itself a team overnight. the rebuilding process may take 2 to 3 years but it means we can be up there for a long while, whilst if we try and become instant premiership contenders by recruiting "instant" players we are only up there for 1-2 years, if at all.

 

[tugga]

Sorry, don't mean to be a pest on the Richmond Board.

But with Kruezer you get the best of both worlds.

When playing as a KP forward - he reminds me of Mitch Clark with his height and athleticism.

Drafting Kruezer would do wonders for both your ruck stocks, and your forward line.

It's really 2 birds with one stone. - Thats not saying you shouldnt take Reiwoldt though , that would be downright nutty.

You're not intruding. You're one of the few oppositon posters who actually adds something to this board.
I'm not retracting my comments about Riewoldt, but obvious a few here know more about Kruezer than I do.
having said all that, by getting Riewoldt, we get a ready made player. We are Richmond after all ... what guarantee is it that we will actually use our No 1 pick with any intelligence?

 

[nut]

If Nick wants to leave the Saints then he wont want to leave on bad terms. I.e he would want the saints to be compensated. Unless we can inflame the current situation with Butteress and Thomas, make Nick hate the saints and leave for nothing because of " they way they treated Grant and my self ". Hell I'll even offer Grant a position to help smooth the deal over, He may need the cash to pay off a loan I hear!.

Also if nick does want a new club he'll want one he thinks can go all the way, and by hurting that new club with a harsh trade wont do this any good.

So we try and get him in the PSD and keep every pick we have.

Basically to Greg Miller, this why we have been paying you for 6-7 years.

MAKE IT HAPPEN

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

what guarantee is it that we will actually use our No 1 pick with any intelligence?

I think either Kruezer or Cotchin at this stage would be no brainers.

Much like Deledio was in 2004 after the Carnival, and Murphy was after declining F/S from Brisbane, you could pretty much lock either of them in for #1 at this stage.

In fact, Greg Swann was just on SEN, and commented on the both of them saying if available - one of them will be at Carlton next year (depending on the seasons outcome that is). But then again, thats probably the case with most clubs - if available, theylll take either.

However, East Fremantle's Chris Masten does play very similarly to Marc Murphy, he's even playing well in the WAFL seniors. He's my tip for #3 at the moment.

Regarding the PSD, its important to try and use it as leverage - but at the same time, don't overrate its value. As I've stated elsewhere during the years we had the #1 PSD pick, threads and comments were bandied around stating "get a superstar in the PSD". But the reality is - the PSD never lures superstars (2003 aside), as players don't want to screw their clubs or be seen as mercenaries.

However, there are lots of young Victorians who are now on the outer at Freo

 

[mark73]

Seriously, if Lyon continues to make the Saints play this gameplan I can see Nick becoming very discontent, he's being severly underused and being made to work much harder than he should.

I cant see him moving but we can only hope.

Agree with all that but if he goes anywhere, my money would be back to Queensland. And the Lions have some good young uns to throw up as well. Even we at years end are going to have some money to throw around and could certainly afford it financially, but I'd be hesitant to blow it all on one player. I think he'll either be at St.Kilda, or Brisbane.

 

[mad-saint-guy]

If Riewoldt did leave St Kilda (which is very unlikely), we would want a LOT in return.

If he went to Richmond I think you would need to get another club involved. The saints would be after top 10 draft picks, quality midfielders with pace, a ruckman and big, strong key defenders. Deledio is the only player on your list that fits any of those descriptions and I think he would be untouchable.

St Kilda would have NO interest in Shulz, Raines etc or 3rd round draft picks.

A deal would need at either a top 3 draft pick or star midfielder, a quality defender/ruckman and a second round draft pick. OR, a top 3 pick, a star midfielder and a second round pick.

These are the kind of combos we might go for
Lewis, Wood, Pick 20
Salopek, Pick 3, Pick 25
N. Jones, Bate, Pick 2
Wells, Hale, Pick 20

 

[beaver fever]

These are the kind of combos we might go for
Lewis, Wood, Pick 20
Salopek, Pick 3, Pick 25
N. Jones, Bate, Pick 2
Wells, Hale, Pick 20

Doubt any teams would give up that much. St.Kilda would have to give a draft pick in return coupled with riewoldt.

You might be in a position to ask for that much if he was still contracted, but he isn't and if he wanted to leave you would be hard pressed to get that much in return.

 

[_RT_]

Doubt any teams would give up that much. St.Kilda would have to give a draft pick in return coupled with riewoldt.

You might be in a position to ask for that much if he was still contracted, but he isn't and if he wanted to leave you would be hard pressed to get that much in return.

Ottens was out of contract when we traded him for 2 first rounders and like that deal, the fact is if a club further above us wanted Nick bad enough they would cough up that sort of deal to snare him.

We have the 'luxury' though of having pick one so we don't really need to do a deal with the Saints, if Nick was to go to the PSD then we snare him for free.

It all depends on if Nick got fed up with the whole thing at the Saints and somehow I don't think that would happen.

 

[beaver fever]

Ottens was out of contract when we traded him for 2 first rounders and like that deal, the fact is if a club further above us wanted Nick bad enough they would cough up that sort of deal to snare him.

We have the 'luxury' though of having pick one so we don't really need to do a deal with the Saints, if Nick was to go to the PSD then we snare him for free.

It all depends on if Nick got fed up with the whole thing at the Saints and somehow I don't think that would happen.

Richmond were in a strong position with the ottens deal but. We could have got him back in the PSD, St.Kilda don't have that luxury.

Sure it wouldn't be unheard of for a club to give that much for riewoldt, but that is the maximum price he is worth, not necessarily the market price.

 

[mark73]

If Riewoldt did leave St Kilda (which is very unlikely), we would want a LOT in return.

If he went to Richmond I think you would need to get another club involved. The saints would be after top 10 draft picks, quality midfielders with pace, a ruckman and big, strong key defenders. Deledio is the only player on your list that fits any of those descriptions and I think he would be untouchable.

St Kilda would have NO interest in Shulz, Raines etc or 3rd round draft picks.

A deal would need at either a top 3 draft pick or star midfielder, a quality defender/ruckman and a second round draft pick. OR, a top 3 pick, a star midfielder and a second round pick.

These are the kind of combos we might go for
Lewis, Wood, Pick 20
Salopek, Pick 3, Pick 25
N. Jones, Bate, Pick 2
Wells, Hale, Pick 20

You've got to be kidding?

He's good, but not that good.

 

[nut]

If Riewoldt did leave St Kilda (which is very unlikely), we would want a LOT in return.

If he went to Richmond I think you would need to get another club involved. The saints would be after top 10 draft picks, quality midfielders with pace, a ruckman and big, strong key defenders. Deledio is the only player on your list that fits any of those descriptions and I think he would be untouchable.

St Kilda would have NO interest in Shulz, Raines etc or 3rd round draft picks.

A deal would need at either a top 3 draft pick or star midfielder, a quality defender/ruckman and a second round draft pick. OR, a top 3 pick, a star midfielder and a second round pick.

These are the kind of combos we might go for
Lewis, Wood, Pick 20
Salopek, Pick 3, Pick 25
N. Jones, Bate, Pick 2
Wells, Hale, Pick 20

No one give that much for a cry baby

 

[_RT_]

Richmond were in a strong position with the ottens deal but. We could have got him back in the PSD, St.Kilda don't have that luxury.

Sure it wouldn't be unheard of for a club to give that much for riewoldt, but that is the maximum price he is worth, not necessarily the market price.

I know that what I am saying is if the Saints were looking at a deal for Nick the fact he is one of the top 6 forwards in the AFL would see most clubs trying to secure him. If were the only side dealing with them we could offer a lot less than they will get elsewhere as we have the number 1 pick in the PSD as there will be 14 other clubs banging on the door that sort of price is not out of the question. I just don't want us to be the ones paying it. As I said if we got him in the PSD I'd take it. If we had to give up picks then thanks but no.

 

[Supertiger]

According to other sites RFC is more interested in Dal Santo than N.Riewoldt. So who knows whats going on.

 

[marco polo]

According to other sites RFC is more interested in Dal Santo than N.Riewoldt. So who knows whats going on.

If anyone, I would prefer we go after Dal Santo.

Doubt me need more key forwards with Richo, Hughes, Schulz, Riewoldt, Kingsley, Pattison and even McGuane.

In saying that it wouldnt hurt to get Riewoldt, but i would much rather have some added class in the midfield.

 

[beaver fever]

I wouldn't be keen on Dal Santo either. Richmond lack players who can perform under pressure. Tough inside midfielders who can kick, but not fall down whenever tackled or need to kick quickly.

Dal Santo given time and good delivery is one of the best uses of the ball, but at Richmond he would come under heavy attention, and his skills tend to go down. Without Hayes, Harvey and Ball providing constant support, Dal Santo has not performed as well as in the past, which I feel would be even worse at richmond. He would be much better off at a side like Collingwood or Essendon.

Having said that he would still be a great player and improve our midfield a lot. A better option than Riewoldt, but again he doesn't help our bigger weaknesses.