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[Slattery_20]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

Any opportunity to link back to this is a good one.

 

[Brent Prismall#9]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

Any opportunity to link back to this is a good one.

Lol totally random but still very funny, surely its a joke though?

 

[Yoda_]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

What about Rohan Bewick. Saw him in impressive debut playing against Ben Howlett in 2009. He has gone on with it in 2010. Invited to draft combo. The following info from AFL site regarding invitees.

Height: 182cm
Weight: 76kg
DOB: 10/10/89
Recruited from: West Perth (WA)

Kevin Sheehan says: Hard-running player who is smart, has a penetrating kick and good pace and endurance. Played well at senior level in 2010 in the WAFL. Rohan is the nephew of Essendon premiership player, Darren and has already tasted senior football in the WAFL in 2010.

Stats (aggregate for 2010 WAFL)
Games K H D M G
H/O
1621310932295156

Sounds like a decent enough prospect.

However, I do not think that Essendon should recruit any more 'mature aged' midfielders.

If we recruited (example only) Bewick, as a midfielder if he was getting senior games ahead of players like Jetta, Myers and hopefully Houli it would show how bad things are going and point to our lack of development of our young midfielders.

I wish Rohan all the best, but I would like to hope that we recruit kids this year and only the absolute role specific (small defender, ruckmen) 'mature aged' players if they are still around in the rookie draft then by all means I hope we nab them, howver I am confident with out developing midfield and this years draftee's.

 

[Slattery_20]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

If he works as well as Howlett I'm all for it. If it comes down to getting guys like Houli/Reimers as 18yos, or guys who've had to work a bit harder for a few years (ie a Howlett), I know which way I'd go. Take out the heartache, and he'd be cheap as.
His name was mentioned a couple of times last year, maybe the year before, but sounds like he's done a lot of hard yards.


HFF - I don't get the logic of "22yo who's been around for 4 pre-seasons is a youngster" but "21yo who's never done an AFL pre-season is mature".
Surely you'd agree it's more likely that Howlett will improve compared to Houli?

Lol totally random but still very funny, surely its a joke though?

nah it's legit brah....

 

[hollywood23]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

Fair enough mate but as I said I don't think pick 8 should be the "high risk, high reward" pick.

This. As mentioned by most, it would be great for our first pick to be used on a pure midfielder, who is smart around stoppages, strong over the ball, an accumulator of possessions and uses it cleanly. Sure a bit of pace is great, but i'd prefer a mid with footballing smarts over athletic ability.

In light of this, having had a decent look at the draft prospects, I agree with most that the first 2 picks should be mids, 3rd pick should be a medium/small defender, with our 4th pick being used for the howlett upgrade. I think there are solid options to pick up a ruck in the rookie draft or with another late pick should we acquire one via trade.

Mid prospects for our 1st pick in order for me would be:
1 - Caddy - Big fan of this guy, it was mentioned by a poster earlier that he is similar in style to a selwood. I also see a bit of bartel in him as he is very strong overhead, has solid disposal and can kick goals. A pure midfielder that would slot in beautifully to our midfield with the melkman and jobe. Tested very well under pressure at the combine and I think is a bit underrated by most on bf tbh. Only knock on him is the improvement upside

2 - Atley - Superb athlete, very well poised inside and outside midfielder who will take the game on and break apart stoppages. I have a query on his skills and decision making, but there is definitely tremendous upside with this kid. Reminds me a little of Judd with his pace, if only skills were cleaner.

3 - Gaff - Workhorse, would be a solid 25-30 possession per game player and importantly for us would run both ways. Doesn't have any outstanding athletic features apart from endurance, but he is very neat and polished, a good finisher, and a pure midfielder who would be a safe option. A very similar mould to L. Power and Dal Santo

4 - Polec - Real X Factor, smooth mover who probably wouldn't accumulate that many touches but would definitely make the most of them. Very versatile player who can play forward, wing or in the middle. Big leap, great hands, and outstanding agility I would say are his best features. Kind of reminds me a bit of J. brennan the way he moves

5 - Smith - About 3 weeks ago I was wanting us to pick this guy badly. Have since cooled on him a little mainly due to having done more research and seeing that his disposal isn't the best and he probably isn't that pure midfielder that we require. Played mainly at HBF for SANFL side, and did a great job by the sounds of it. Has great breakaway pace like Atley, but tends to rush his disposal and doesn't look like he has alot of time when he gets it.

Firstly for our second pick i'd like to say that if kieran harper slides i will be pitching a tent. But discounting this as an option, my preferences would be:
1 - parker - Great overhead and has great football smarts. Good user of the footy, would be stoked if we got him but expecting him to go between 15-25.

2 - Hallahan - Tough as nails, would be a real midfield general. question marks over his disposal, but his courage and grunt work cancel that out mostly.

3 - Conca - Very good skills and a smooth mover, with good overhead skills. Lots of poise about him.

4 - Prestia - Montagna like, definitely an accumulator of the footy and a good finisher.

3rd pick should be used on a solid HBF/BP who can shut down small forwards and create run.
1 - Wilson - Unlikely to slide, but would be a great pick up for us. Very good disposal that would set up attacks beautifully, unsure about shut down ability though.
2 - Guthrie
3 - Batchelor
4 - Batley

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

If Polec reminds us of Brennan, stay the hell away from him, soft as butter (Brennan).

My rankings would be:

1. Smith (purely as he is the most ideal suit for us, heaven knows we need some explosive pace in our midfield, I mean seriously who is quick?)
2.Atley 9I don't buy into his disposal, Judd-like and frankly lets not pretend Judd has an elite disposal by foot)
3. Gaff (Solid choice, I am not as big a fan as some on here though, seems rushed half the time)
4. Luke Parker (I really like him, good disposal as well)
5. Darling (I would not be totall against this move if Neagle is going to spud it up again)

2nd rounder

1. Blayne Wilson (get the best small defender with the best footskills IF available)
2. Prestia (accumulator, has to work on his disposal though)
3. Lamb (will he be available though/ Small forward and we need one)
4. Hallahan (tough, and would suit our midfield)

 

[hank31]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

If Polec reminds us of Brennan, stay the hell away from him, soft as butter (Brennan).

My rankings would be:

1. Smith (purely as he is the most ideal suit for us, heaven knows we need some explosive pace in our midfield, I mean seriously who is quick?)
2.Atley 9I don't buy into his disposal, Judd-like and frankly lets not pretend Judd has an elite disposal by foot)
3. Gaff (Solid choice, I am not as big a fan as some on here though, seems rushed half the time)
4. Luke Parker (I really like him, good disposal as well)
5. Darling (I would not be totall against this move if Neagle is going to spud it up again)

2nd rounder

1. Blayne Wilson (get the best small defender with the best footskills IF available)
2. Prestia (accumulator, has to work on his disposal though)
3. Lamb (will he be available though/ Small forward and we need one)
4. Hallahan (tough, and would suit our midfield)

Jason Winderlich is lightning quick, as is Jetta and hopefully Dempsey plays some more midfield time next year..

I have seen you post the same crap over and over again in this thread and quite frankly im getting sick of reading it..

Everyone knows your opinion by now so please, dont post the same 'expert oppinion' rubbish again.

 

[hank31]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

If Polec reminds us of Brennan, stay the hell away from him, soft as butter (Brennan).

My rankings would be:

1. Smith (purely as he is the most ideal suit for us, heaven knows we need some explosive pace in our midfield, I mean seriously who is quick?)
2.Atley 9I don't buy into his disposal, Judd-like and frankly lets not pretend Judd has an elite disposal by foot)
3. Gaff (Solid choice, I am not as big a fan as some on here though, seems rushed half the time)
4. Luke Parker (I really like him, good disposal as well)
5. Darling (I would not be totall against this move if Neagle is going to spud it up again)

2nd rounder

1. Blayne Wilson (get the best small defender with the best footskills IF available)
2. Prestia (accumulator, has to work on his disposal though)
3. Lamb (will he be available though/ Small forward and we need one)
4. Hallahan (tough, and would suit our midfield)

Oh and by the way, stop watching Highlights packages and go and watch a bloody game before you make an assesment..
After watching some rays games, the main knock on parker would be his disposals by foot..
Geez your a frustrating poster....................

 

[Brent Prismall#9]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

Oh and by the way, stop watching Highlights packages and go and watch a bloody game before you make an assesment..
After watching some rays games, the main knock on parker would be his disposals by foot..
Geez your a frustrating poster....................

Take it easy mate we're just having a friendly discussion here. That's his/her opinion take it or leave it, no need to bash him.

 

[SirJimi05]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

Jason Winderlich is lightning quick, as is Jetta and hopefully Dempsey plays some more midfield time next year..

I have seen you post the same crap over and over again in this thread and quite frankly im getting sick of reading it..

Everyone knows your opinion by now so please, dont post the same 'expert oppinion' rubbish again.

So by your reckoning we have one established midfielder with pace? Her point was that we need to add some pace into the midfield. I have seen nothing in your reply that shows that she is wrong.

 

[SirJimi05]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

Oh and by the way, stop watching Highlights packages and go and watch a bloody game before you make an assesment..
After watching some rays games, the main knock on parker would be his disposals by foot..
Geez your a frustrating poster....................

Why don't you address this to 95% of our boards posters?

 

[Kong]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

Have to agree, nothing wrong with bombersno1's post.

 

[hank31]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

Why don't you address this to 95% of our boards posters?

Because I haven't seen a lot of other games accept stingrays.. A few of the guys from my club play there so I go watch a few times a year... I wasn't making a full assessment, just pointing out what was wrong with what she said... She also said we need pace, and he is definately not a pacey player!

Anyway I've got drinking to do!

 

[yaco55]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

Hank31

Still another 48 days to the ND.

Lots more discussion on the way.

 

[eastaugh36]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

Article in the paper here today.
Can't find it on their website though.
It says that we have upset the running order of the draft by making a major pitch to Norwood ruckman Dan Gorringe rather than a midfielder. There is a photo of Dodoro meeting with Gorringe at Glenelg yesterday.
Dodoro is quoted as saying we'll draft the best player at pick 8 regardless of position.

 

[Duckworth]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

Article in the paper here today.
Can't find it on their website though.
It says that we have upset the running order of the draft by making a major pitch to Norwood ruckman Dan Gorringe rather than a midfielder. There is a photo of Dodoro meeting with Gorringe at Glenelg yesterday.
Dodoro is quoted as saying we'll draft the best player at pick 8 regardless of position.

I really hope they are just trying to get GC to take him earlier, leaving us more midfielders.

 

[bombermick]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

Article in the paper here today.
Can't find it on their website though.
It says that we have upset the running order of the draft by making a major pitch to Norwood ruckman Dan Gorringe rather than a midfielder. There is a photo of Dodoro meeting with Gorringe at Glenelg yesterday.
Dodoro is quoted as saying we'll draft the best player at pick 8 regardless of position.

I wouldn't mind us picking up Gorringe if he is the best player at 8. Mids are obviously our no.1 priority, but we also need to pick up a ruck post-Hille. We can select mids with our other picks, not to mention using our first pick next year on a mid. I'm warming to Polec, so hopefully we grab him but I wouldn't sneeze at Gorringe.

 

[Big Blow Hard]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

Article in the paper here today.
Can't find it on their website though.
It says that we have upset the running order of the draft by making a major pitch to Norwood ruckman Dan Gorringe rather than a midfielder. There is a photo of Dodoro meeting with Gorringe at Glenelg yesterday.
Dodoro is quoted as saying we'll draft the best player at pick 8 regardless of position.

I wouldn't neccesarily read to much into it. Clubs meet with alot of the prospects they are maybe interested in to get an idea of their character etc.
I know Gary Rohans family reasonably well, and they had sit downs with at least 4 clubs. Does not mean much IMO, except that there is interest. I would imagine Dodoro has met with a few others as well.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

So by your reckoning we have one established midfielder with pace? Her point was that we need to add some pace into the midfield. I have seen nothing in your reply that shows that she is wrong.

Pretty much, we need a quick midfielder that plays inside. Now we may not get Judd, but he is the "type" of midfielder we need.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

Because I haven't seen a lot of other games accept stingrays.. A few of the guys from my club play there so I go watch a few times a year... I wasn't making a full assessment, just pointing out what was wrong with what she said... She also said we need pace, and he is definately not a pacey player!

Anyway I've got drinking to do!

Parker is NOT my no1 choice, he is 3 on my list. The other two have pace, and that is what I have gone with. I don't see any inside mids on our list with pace. Winders is not inside and he is not Ablett like in pace anyway. Jetta is fairly quick but will he actually be a full time midfielder? Dempsey would have played maybe a quarter in the middle in his career and he is somehow a midfielder...we need a quick inside midfielder.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

Article in the paper here today.
Can't find it on their website though.
It says that we have upset the running order of the draft by making a major pitch to Norwood ruckman Dan Gorringe rather than a midfielder. There is a photo of Dodoro meeting with Gorringe at Glenelg yesterday.
Dodoro is quoted as saying we'll draft the best player at pick 8 regardless of position.

If Dodoro does this he should be sacked ASAP. No ruckmen until a late pick OR rookie draft.

 

[Dkid]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

If Dodoro does this he should be sacked ASAP. No ruckmen until a late pick OR rookie draft.

If there looking for a ruckman that can cover for Hille Ryder and Bellchambers in case of injury, how is a first year recruit going to help? Surely a mature aged rookie is the way to go there
Gorringe looks to be an absoloutly outstanding talent (noticed it at one of the champs games this year), so you can see where dodoro is coming from, but as someone else in a different thread alluded to, more midfield players (and good ones at that) ultimately leads more success. Just look at collingwood

 

[Tambu]

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If Dodoro does this he should be sacked ASAP. No ruckmen until a late pick OR rookie draft.

Gorringe would be a very good and wise pick because you would think Hille doesn't have too many seasons left, Ryder might be used more as a KPP and Bellchambers is still raw. I think we need a young gun ruckman to make sure we've got good depth in the ruck area.

Our midfield is looking pretty good long term. Short term, we might have problems.

We should be looking very seriously at getting Gorringe and then take a punt on a mature age mid in the PSD or Rookie draft IMO.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Re: National Draft / Rookie Draft Strategy (No Trade Talk)

My feeling is that you can ALWAYS trade for a ruckman when you are in that "window", look at Collingwood, Sydney, etc. No need to draft a midfielder early. I'd rather draft Jack Darling at 8 than take Gorringe!

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

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Id prefer a more fast outside player rather than inside. Watson and Howlett are great inside players. Melksham will become inside and Colyer has played that inside role all his career in junior days and likes to burst away from contest. I would preferably like a player who can play a bit of both. Im starting to think Atley is our man. Some having him rated as high as 5 so to get him at pick 8 would be pretty good.