Preview NAB AFL Draft

[Yoda_]

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What if Heppell is still available HFF?? would you take him ahead of Caddy and Smith.

As good a talent as Heppell is going to be. Do we need him? I have faith in our young back line brigade (both talls and smalls) to use our first pick on our main priority; an inside midfielder.

Like the look of Parker, unsure where he is expected to go, but would love him to slip to our 2nd rounder, although that seems unlikely. I would like Conca or even Newton at that 2nd round pick.

I am on record saying that the beauty of us having an early (ish) second round pick, is that I get the feeling a highly rated player will slide to us, we just need to hope to god that our recruiting team see the talent there and select them..

Do like the looks of Conca, not so much on Newton however he should get a chance.

 

[hollywood23]

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Yep I definitely like caddy or atley at no.8. I think this play that we're supposedly making for gorringe really is just a smokescreen so that he'll be selected by gold coast at 7, meaning another quality mid falls to us. Wouldn't be surprised to see caddy go as early as no.5 to brisbane.

Hallahan, Prestia, Fasolo or Conca would be great at 30.

Batchelor would be a steal at 47. I think we should look for defenders with this pick.

 

[Yoda_]

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Hallahan, Prestia, Fasolo or Conca would be great at 30.

Batchelor would be a steal at 47. I think we should look for defenders with this pick.

I keep saying, but I get the feeling who ever we get at 30 will be a very good pick up also.

I am not completely sure there will be any 'pure' defenders left at 47, unless you want a mature aged small defender (if that is in deed what you are reffering to [a small defender]?)

 

[yaco55]

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I keep saying, but I get the feeling who ever we get at 30 will be a very good pick up also.

I am not completely sure there will be any 'pure' defenders left at 47, unless you want a mature aged small defender (if that is in deed what you are reffering to [a small defender]?)

Seems like an extra pick before 30 would come in handy.

Will the 2011 Draft be the same strength as the 2010 draft ?

 

[hollywood23]

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yeh I was referring to a medium/small defender who will be able to shut down dangerous small/medium forwards. This is a real weakness on our list at the moment IMO.

I think Guthrie would be great for this role, but I don't think he'll slide to pick 47 and I think it would be too early to get him at pick 30. I also like the look of Wilson and Batley, both have solid rebounding and shut down skills which would provide a lot.

 

[reincarnated]

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After the draft camp, TAC and SANFL Finals serries and the trade week, I think the situation we are looking at has changed a lot...

1 Gold Coast Suns - David Swallow
2 Gold Coast Suns - Harley Bennell
3 Gold Coast Suns - Sam Day

Sounds like that's a lock in and hasn't changed. From there onwards Gaff's stocks have risen with the draft camp with Caddy, and Heppell stocks have risen with a great TAC Final serries, with Polce doing well in SANFL. So the next three looks like...

4 West Coast Eagles - Andrew Gaff
5 Brisbane Lions - Dyson Heppell
6 Richmond - Jared Polec

We are now a sitting duck for the Gold Coasters. With the trading of picks with Brisbane, now they have 7, 9, 10 and 11. So they can manipulate the draft to their wish...

7 Gold Coast Suns
8 Essendon
9 Gold Coast Suns
10 Gold Coast Suns
11 Gold Coast Suns

Looking at the players who might be in contention for the following 4 picks....to my knowledge.

Daniel Gorringe, Josh Caddy, Shaun Atley, Jack Darling, Brodie Smith and Dion Prestia.

Out of that only Gorringe and Darling are different types of players. I haven't heard anything about Bombers being keen on Darling.

So GC could draft Gorringe and let Essendon choose who they want out the midfield group, and then get the other two or three and Darling.

Or if they find out who Essendon are keen on out of the midfielders and see if they actually rate that midfielder in the same level. So for example if Essendon rate Prestia highly and they find out Bombers are committed to him no matter what...and if GC don't rate him or want him then they will just get Gorringe and draft who they want after the Bombers.

But if they rate Prestia and know for certain the Bombers won't pluck Gorringe and are really keen on a midfielder, then they'll get Prestia and let the Bombers choose out of the other midfielders, and get Gorringe after the Bombers pick.

Gorringe is not your tall out and out ruckman. So I can't see the need for him.

Still Atley for me though. Won't be dissapointed with Smith, Caddy or Prestia. Not sure about Darling. But a big no to Gorringe.

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

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As good a talent as Heppell is going to be. Do we need him? I have faith in our young back line brigade (both talls and smalls) to use our first pick on our main priority; an inside midfielder.



I am on record saying that the beauty of us having an early (ish) second round pick, is that I get the feeling a highly rated player will slide to us, we just need to hope to god that our recruiting team see the talent there and select them..

Do like the looks of Conca, not so much on Newton however he should get a chance.

I think Heppell will become a true midfielder when he comes into an AFL club with the ability to play as a rebounding half back or go forward and kick goals.

I dont like the theory of getting a pure midfielder who cant have an impact forward or back. As soon as these players become good they get tagged and have minimal impact. That is why i like Heppell if available and especially Caddy who has shown plenty as a forward over the past 2 years.

Gold Coast can manipulate the draft slightly but not as much as people think. They certainly cant manipulate our number 8 pick. If we want a midfielder (Gaff, Heppell, Polec, Caddy, Atley,Prestia, Smith) we will get one. There 7th pick will only impact us if we truly wanted Gorringe as a ruck, which the club has stated but is obviously a bluff.

I think Gaff is almost certain to go 4th which is basically what the papers say over here. I think Polec will be gone before our pick and i think Gold Coast will take Gorringe at 7. We should get one of Atley or Caddy which seem to be the names at pick 8 in a few mocks.

 

[Slattery_20]

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I haven't seen any games, HFF, but hasn't Heppell been playing midfield most of the year? Few people I know watch U18s say he has been, when have you seen him play half-back?

 

[Rack Watts]

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I have a feeling that GC will grab Gorringe at 7 and that we will grab Atley or Caddy at 8. Just because we all know 7 is THE pick that you want in the AFL draft!

 

[Duckworth]

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We are now a sitting duck for the Gold Coasters. With the trading of picks with Brisbane, now they have 7, 9, 10 and 11. So they can manipulate the draft to their wish...

7 Gold Coast Suns
8 Essendon
9 Gold Coast Suns
10 Gold Coast Suns
11 Gold Coast Suns

I dont' think we're a sitting duck. They can hardly 'manipulate' the draft with pick 7. They MAY take the player we wanted most... but any other team could do that too. Either way we will get a highly regarded recruit at pick 8.

FWIW Geelong really wanted Boak and ended up with Selwood. I doubt that they were disappointed.

 

[Yoda_]

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I dont like the theory of getting a pure midfielder who cant have an impact forward or back. As soon as these players become good they get tagged and have minimal impact.

That is why i like Heppell if available and especially Caddy who has shown plenty as a forward over the past 2 years.

Eh.. ??

Gold Coast can manipulate the draft slightly but not as much as people think. They certainly cant manipulate our number 8 pick. If we want a midfielder (Gaff, Heppell, Polec, Caddy, Atley,Prestia, Smith) we will get one. There 7th pick will only impact us if we truly wanted Gorringe as a ruck, which the club has stated but is obviously a bluff.

I think Gaff is almost certain to go 4th which is basically what the papers say over here. I think Polec will be gone before our pick and i think Gold Coast will take Gorringe at 7. We should get one of Atley or Caddy which seem to be the names at pick 8 in a few mocks.

People seem to think that we are not going to get a beaut midfielder at pick 8. I am pretty sure that nearly all Essendon supporters would not be disappointed if we selected one of Gaff, Caddy, Prestia, Smith, Parker at pick 8.

 

[Yoda_]

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I haven't seen any games, HFF, but hasn't Heppell been playing midfield most of the year? Few people I know watch U18s say he has been, when have you seen him play half-back?

Hm.. every report I read he started the year playing in defence and was only thrust onto the ball as a last gasp and basically won the game for his team..

Still, is a bit of a rangy type and one who could become a good player, but feel he is not a player that is as attractive as some of the others..

 

[yodellinhank]

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This "pure midfielder" BS is really aggravating me. What if a Utility or Half Back/Midfielder was the next Brendan Goddard. Do we overlook him?

 

[Yoda_]

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Seems like an extra pick before 30 would come in handy.

Will the 2011 Draft be the same strength as the 2010 draft ?

I am actually very disappointed we did not try and gain another selection in the top 30 - 40 as this draft runs deep (to about pick 55), would of been stoked if we had of selected three highly rated players but will settle with two.

If we had three picks inside the top 30, I would have no hesitation in going after Gorringe, but a first round pick should be used on what we need the most knowing we only have two more 'speculative' picks after the initial first round pick..

 

[lemon chicken]

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Gorringe is not your tall out and out ruckman. So I can't see the need for him.

Say what? Already taller than Ryder

 

[Mr Mosquito]

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Say what? Already taller than Ryder

Not as athletic as Ryder though. Doesnt have the leap. However, his highlights on youtibe are very very impressive. I really do see the need for another ruckmen seeing that Hille may not be around for our next tilt at it. Despite this,


TAKE JOSH CADDY IF AVAILABLE

 

[Slattery_20]

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I am actually very disappointed we did not try and gain another selection in the top 30 - 40 as this draft runs deep (to about pick 55), would of been stoked if we had of selected three highly rated players but will settle with two.

If we had three picks inside the top 30, I would have no hesitation in going after Gorringe, but a first round pick should be used on what we need the most knowing we only have two more 'speculative' picks after the initial first round pick..

There's a difference between "trying and failing" and "not trying".
Just putting it out there.

You can't force teams to trade.

 

[Oh Tayteridge]

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Apparently Richmond are very interested in Caddy.

Would be very disappointing to see him go before our pick.

 

[Slattery_20]

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Hm.. every report I read he started the year playing in defence and was only thrust onto the ball as a last gasp and basically won the game for his team..

...which propelled gippsland going from also-rans to finals, is how I've heard it told.

I don't see that as a knock, myself.

 

[chief101]

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wonder if hirdy will pick up his cousin matt little from VFL. Lord knows Essendon need a ready to go FF

 

[Oh Tayteridge]

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wonder if hirdy will pick up his cousin matt little from VFL. Lord knows Essendon need a ready to go FF

I'm not sure we do. If you look at our forward structure under Knights, you'll see that it was non existent, or very poor at the very least.

The likes of Davey, Jetta and Zaharakis would frequently be left at full forward, with Ryder or Gumbleton holding the ball along the forward flank and leading up the ground.

If we can straighten this up to be centred upon our talls and exposing the almost invariable inability of opposition to match up on an interchanging Ryder and Hille, as well as the likes of Gumby, Neagle, Carlisle and Still between FF and CHF, then we will be much better off.

I think we have the numbers and quality, but we need better structure and delivery. A future appointment of someone like Lloyd would do immeasurable good for our forward line.

 

[Slattery_20]

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Our forward line was easily the shining light. If the buggers upfield had honoured the lead more than once a match Gumby would have been much more effective.
We don't need another 6'1" full-forward; we've got two already!!!

 

[Kong]

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Speaking of which, what's Norf's obsession with undersized book ends?

Thompson
Edwards
McKinley

 

[Brent Prismall#9]

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Speaking of which, what's Norf's obsession with undersized book ends?

Thompson
Edwards
McKinley

Who cares its Norf's problem not ours. If anything it'll make it easier for Hooker, Hurley & Pears to destroy them

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

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Eh.. ??



People seem to think that we are not going to get a beaut midfielder at pick 8. I am pretty sure that nearly all Essendon supporters would not be disappointed if we selected one of Gaff, Caddy, Prestia, Smith, Parker at pick 8.

What im trying to say is that players with the ability to play other positions other than just midfield usually can break tags alot easier when they start attracting attention. Players such as Caddy, Heppell have this ability where as Atley ect who are seen as pure midfielders may suffer more under the tag. However players can develop this to a certain degree during there time at an AFL club.

I echo the thoughts of Take Caddy or Heppell if available. To me Heppell will be a pure midfielder with the ability to go forward or back. Goddard like. We shouldnt pass on this, just because he isnt a pure midfielder.