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Pedro
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I don't mind the structure in general. I'm not sure why you say Libba needs to be M6 though. It'd be a luxury of course, but I don't see any issue at all having him at M5. Gives you that one extra player in DEF or FWD so you don't have to rely on tose rookies as much. Much easier to find 1 extra decent rookie in the MIDS imo.Version 2. Looking much better balanced. I've deliberately gone very expensive for the rookies. It's much easier to work out what to do with the extra cash when I downgrade them to the cheaper options that should emerge over the preseason comp than it would be to find cash to upgrade to them from cheaper options.
That extra cash should come, and will allow me to look at upgrading at least one of my D4, F4 or possibly M6 to Libba. I feel if Libba is in a team he has to be M6 as having him at M5 risks making the midfield too weak and at M7 it leaves too few midfield rookies.
Merrett may seem a little weak for an F3 but I think he may have broken out even if Essendon hadn't lost it's list. In this lineup he could be a revelation.
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Version 2. Looking much better balanced. I've deliberately gone very expensive for the rookies. It's much easier to work out what to do with the extra cash when I downgrade them to the cheaper options that should emerge over the preseason comp than it would be to find cash to upgrade to them from cheaper options.
That extra cash should come, and will allow me to look at upgrading at least one of my D4, F4 or possibly M6 to Libba. I feel if Libba is in a team he has to be M6 as having him at M5 risks making the midfield too weak and at M7 it leaves too few midfield rookies.
Merrett may seem a little weak for an F3 but I think he may have broken out even if Essendon hadn't lost it's list. In this lineup he could be a revelation.
I'd move Mitch Brown to defence in place of Hipwood and take Cockatoo up fwd
That's true, but the problem is that Libba is a big risk. There's no guarantee that he'll come back to anything like his best quickly after an ACL and, if he doesn't, your stuck with just 4 premium mids which is too few. I guess that's why I don't have him at this stage.
I actually tried that but I can't quite afford it. I expect Brown will end up a backline starter and Hipwood will be downgraded though.
Just realised I posted that team in the wrong thread. Better move it
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Cockatoo will average 70 at best surely?
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I've generally started with 4/4/2/4 premiums across the lines and I think it has always been a pretty common thing for a GnR side. Pretty sure the winner last year started with 4 premium mids. Can give you a very balanced side especially if the rookies are thin in DEF & FWD. If I flicked him thats the structure I'd be left with and I'd be pretty happy with that. Only problem is he's so damn cheap its hard to forego having him.
Correction, he started with 5 premiums across the field
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He will average more than Hipwood.
Similar price.
And he already has a link in the fwd line to defence.
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Hipwood probably won't play much this year anyway, if at all.
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Pissing on your leg is always a great tactic for keeping your opponent away.
....or were you proposing?
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Pissing on your leg is always a great tactic for keeping your opponent away.
....or were you proposing?
Give it a try
You'll be amazed how accurate you can be with a crowd of supporters around all listening to your over the top excited country coach
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Fair enough. Nothing wrong with 4 though imo
Youre right tho, balance, harmony, equilibrium, with 4..
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Libba is priced at the equivalent of an average of 66.
Even in his first season he averaged more than that.
His career averages went 75, 83, 107, 110, (x).
Let's say he only manages an average of 86 (only!).
You're still going to see his value rise by $110k, which is sometimes all you'll get out of a rookie who plays 4-5 games and then gets dropped never to be seen again.
Only you'll also get the benefit of 86 onfield each week, instead of some rookie and their inferior score.
54% of teams have him for a reason. And that isn't because he's a "big risk".
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That's a pretty good worst-case scenario summation there ^^
I'm sorry but so much of that is just plain wrong.
You don't consider it a success if you pay for a mid-priced midfielder and he only gives you an average in the mid 80s. You should only pay for any mid-priced player if you believe he will be a keeper and 86 is not a keeper's score on any line, let alone the midfield.
There's no doubt that Libba is great value if he gets back to anything like his best form, which is why I would consider him for M6, but after an ACL there's "a big risk" that he will not be able to regain that form. If he doesn't he's a failed selection.
In your example of him scoring an 86 average he's making you as much money as one of your lower averaging rookies and gives you the same average weekly score as one of your higher averaging rookies. That's fine except that he costs a hell of a lot more than a rookie which is almost certainly costing you an extra genuine premium player in your team. That means that if Libba only averages 86 you lose ... considerably. But if he doesn't come back well from injury then his past scores are irrelevant, so even 86 may be generous.
Finally, he may well be in 54% of teams ... I'm surprised that figure isn't higher given his potential value if he comes back well... but those people aren't taking him because they don't believe he's a risk. They're taking him because they believe the potential reward outweighs that risk.
That used to be the popular structure before the 3rd midfield bench position was introduced last season. When that happened some people took it as an opportunity to have an extra midfield cash cow rookie but many others saw it as a chance to play an extra (5th) midfield premium while still having the same number of midfield rookies they'd had in the past. I guess it's a matter of personal choice.
After reading all these objective/subjective opinions! Im torn about liba!
He's out for me. I don't see him scoring enough to be a keeper and he will clog up M8 for a lot of people I think. I can't think of any player who came back from an ACL and scored near his best. I'll have him in 2017.
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