NAB Challenge Discussion

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Haha, one passage of play he smashed it forward from the centre bounce which was to advantage.
He then followed it up with a hard ball get and contested possession handball, followed that up with a handball receive and another contested possession handball, then followed that up with a tackle that led to a goal.
I'd like to see Goldy do that in 15 seconds of play!

Goldy does that with one tapout.

 

[FAILTOSUCCEED]

How so?

Fact he only averaged a bit less than NN after doing his first half decent pre-season.

Now has another full pre-season under his belt and looks set to explode.

 

[DraftPunk]

Fact he only averaged a bit less than NN after doing his first half decent pre-season.

Now has another full pre-season under his belt and looks set to explode.

He will also average more than 1 mark a game

 

[nameless]

Fact he only averaged a bit less than NN after doing his first half decent pre-season.

Now has another full pre-season under his belt and looks set to explode.

Yep, I have Goldy and Gawn.

But love the way NN goes about it.

 

[NT.Thunder]

Potential of Gawn is enticing.

His injury history isn't though

 

[nameless]

His injury history isn't though

I think we're entering a new...Gawn...

He's a changed player, fitter than ever.

 

[NT.Thunder]

I think we're entering a new...Gawn...

He's a changed player, fitter than ever.

I've heard similar quotes regarding Mumford over the years also

 

[FAILTOSUCCEED]

I've heard similar quotes regarding Mumford over the years also

Then stick to who you like... As we will who we like.

 

[joop]

I've heard similar quotes regarding Mumford over the years also

You're talking shit, no-one has ever said that about Mumford.

 

[nameless]

I've heard similar quotes regarding Mumford over the years also

True, true.

As I mentioned in the Rucks thread, having durable ruckman is more important than any other line on the field.
The durables are Goldy, Jacobs, Nic Nat, Sandi and Blicavs.

But it is hard to ignore what Gawn is putting out. He's had 2 ACLs (which is obviously very bad), but is that it?

 

[nameless]

WEST COAST

Matt Priddis 158

Mark LeCras 135

Jeremy McGovern 120

Brad Sheppard 113

Andrew Gaff 110

Shannon Hurn 101

Nic Naitanui 101

Sam Butler 99

Jackson Nelson 82

Xavier Ellis 71

Will Schofield 69

Jack Darling 63

Jamie Bennell 62

Elliot Yeo 58

Scott Lycett 58

Jamie Cripps 53

Eric MacKenzie 51

Liam Duggan 42

Fraser McInnes 32

Malcolm Karpany 29

Josh Hill 29

Patrick McGinnity 26

Josh J. Kennedy 22

Lewis Jetta 21

Mitchell Brown -2


GOLD COAST

Trent McKenzie 169

Aaron Hall 123

Touk Miller 92

Daniel Currie 91

Mitch Hallahan 90

Alex Sexton 84

Matt Shaw 75

Sean Lemmens 69

Ryan Davis 65

Tom Keough 65

Jesse Lonergan 64

Jarrod Harbrow 61

Adam Saad 58

Sam Day 57

Peter Wright 54

Keegan Brooksby 51

Jack Leslie 50

Jack Martin 49

Luke Russell 44

Henry Schade 41

Brandon Matera 33

Clay Cameron 30

Callum Ah Chee 28


Jarrod Garlett 28

Brayden Fiorini 14

Darcy MacPherson 14

 

[FAILTOSUCCEED]

Davis has skipped past MacPherson.

I need to re-assess last mid rookie.

Might even contemplate putting Petracca in early for loophole and Michael/Currie R3.

 

[GRUFFY]

SC scores from tonight's game (and some lesser TOG%)....

WEST COAST
Matt Priddis 158
Mark LeCras 135
Jeremy McGovern 120
Brad Sheppard 113
Andrew Gaff 110
Shannon Hurn 101
Nic Naitanui 101
Sam Butler 99
Jackson Nelson 82
Xavier Ellis 71
Will Schofield 69
Jack Darling 63
Jamie Bennell 62
Elliot Yeo 58
Scott Lycett 58
Jamie Cripps 53
Eric MacKenzie 51
Liam Duggan 42
Fraser McInnes 32
Malcolm Karpany 29
Josh Hill 29
Patrick McGinnity 26 (42%TOG)
Josh J. Kennedy 22 (45%TOG)
Lewis Jetta 21
Mitchell Brown -2 (7%TOG)

GOLD COAST
Trent McKenzie 169
Aaron Hall 123
Touk Miller 92
Daniel Currie 91
Mitch Hallahan 90
Alex Sexton 84
Matt Shaw 75
Sean Lemmens 69
Ryan Davis 65 (46%TOG)
Tom Keough 65
Jesse Lonergan 64 (48%TOG)
Jarrod Harbrow 61
Adam Saad 58
Sam Day 57
Peter Wright 54
Keegan Brooksby 51
Jack Leslie 50
Jack Martin 49
Luke Russell 44
Henry Schade 41
Brandon Matera 33
Clay Cameron 30
Callum Ah Chee 28 (55%TOG)
Jarrod Garlett 28 (42%TOG)
Brayden Fiorini 14 (34%TOG)
Darcy MacPherson 14 (61%TOG)

 

[nameless]

Note:
Fiorini 34% TOG
Garlett 42%
Lonergan 48%
Ah Chee 55%
MacPherson 61%
Hall 77%

Kennedy 45%
Nic Nat 74%
Duggan 79%

Nearly everyone else besides injured players played 80%+ for West Coast. Didn't use many rotations.
Most of GC around 70 to low 80s

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

WEST COAST

Matt Priddis 158

Mark LeCras 135

Jeremy McGovern 120

Brad Sheppard 113

Andrew Gaff 110

Shannon Hurn 101

Nic Naitanui 101

Sam Butler 99

Jackson Nelson 82

Xavier Ellis 71

Will Schofield 69

Jack Darling 63

Jamie Bennell 62

Elliot Yeo 58

Scott Lycett 58

Jamie Cripps 53

Eric MacKenzie 51

Liam Duggan 42

Fraser McInnes 32

Malcolm Karpany 29

Josh Hill 29

Patrick McGinnity 26

Josh J. Kennedy 22

Lewis Jetta 21

Mitchell Brown -2


GOLD COAST

Trent McKenzie 169

Aaron Hall 123

Touk Miller 92

Daniel Currie 91

Mitch Hallahan 90

Alex Sexton 84

Matt Shaw 75

Sean Lemmens 69

Ryan Davis 65

Tom Keough 65

Jesse Lonergan 64

Jarrod Harbrow 61

Adam Saad 58

Sam Day 57

Peter Wright 54

Keegan Brooksby 51

Jack Leslie 50

Jack Martin 49

Luke Russell 44

Henry Schade 41

Brandon Matera 33

Clay Cameron 30

Callum Ah Chee 28


Jarrod Garlett 28

Brayden Fiorini 14

Darcy MacPherson 14

All I have to add is NAB scores.

 

[NT.Thunder]

You're talking shit, no-one has ever said that about Mumford.

Haha - you get yr knickers in a knot quick. You're the most arrogant bloke on here who gets his back up whenever you read something that doesn't sit well with you. I've never read anything half decent from you that would indicate you know anything about SC and appear to be one of these blokes that rides in on the coat tails of others.

 

[carnthemlions]

Not a natural ball winner - seems awkward in the midfield. Just doesn't seem to run to the right spots

Having him in the midfield helps WC win clearances, but he doesn't do enough to justify a permanent spot in the midfield otherwise. Still a work in progress.

 

[NT.Thunder]

True, true.

As I mentioned in the Rucks thread, having durable ruckman is more important than any other line on the field.
The durables are Goldy, Jacobs, Nic Nat, Sandi and Blicavs.

But it is hard to ignore what Gawn is putting out. He's had 2 ACLs (which is obviously very bad), but is that it?

He's had a few knee operations other than the two ACL's which is a worry, but he's looking pretty good. Yr first sentence sums it up perfectly, especially if you don't have cover forward or on the bench. If he has an LTI than its an easy decision, but where you get caught is over those 1-4 week injury spans where you either bleed points or lose a trade. Plenty of options for two set and forget rucks, people have said and tried the exact same things over the years with guys like Mumford and Kruezer but still yet to see it really pay off. What rucks have come from having ongoing injury issues to being top 3 for the season.

 

[Pea Nut]

He's had a few knee operations other than the two ACL's which is a worry, but he's looking pretty good. Yr first sentence sums it up perfectly, especially if you don't have cover forward or on the bench. If he has an LTI than its an easy decision, but where you get caught is over those 1-4 week injury spans where you either bleed points or lose a trade. Plenty of options for two set and forget rucks, people have said and tried the exact same things over the years with guys like Mumford and Kruezer but still yet to see it really pay off. What rucks have come from having ongoing injury issues to being top 3 for the season.

You're killing me. I'm back to Goldy and Jacobs !! Do you sell cars for a living ??

 

[NT.Thunder]

You're killing me. I'm back to Goldy and Jacobs !! Do you sell cars for a living ??

I'm just here to help - or decrease his ownership %

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Haha - you get yr knickers in a knot quick. You're the most arrogant bloke on here who gets his back up whenever you read something that doesn't sit well with you. I've never read anything half decent from you that would indicate you know anything about SC and appear to be one of these blokes that rides in on the coat tails of others.

You do realise this guy finished only 27 positions behind you last year?

 

[The Grover]

Didn't watch game can someone tell me where McGovern played? How did he perform?

 

[Daniels]

What rucks have come from having ongoing injury issues to being top 3 for the season.

Sandilands and Cox (I think)

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Didn't watch game can someone tell me where McGovern played? How did he perform?

Did OK. Usual read of the play was supurb. Took plenty of marks.
Kicked the winning goal as he was playing up the field with the ball trapped down our end most of the quarter with a heavy breeze in our favour.
Went off with a slight shoulder complaint early in the 2d half. Cam back on and did his part. Said in an interview after the game he was just being soft.

 

[Franky_024]

Gawn has had his fair share of injuries true but showed a bit in his 2014 season to suggest he would be a handy type if he got his body right. Broke into the side after dominating in the VFL last year and didn't look back.

Get this he was drafted by Melbourne in 2009 and this is his first actual full preseason, really looking forward to seeing him playing at his very best. I get that he is a risk but there's too much upside to ignore. Should average 100 - 120 and scored 2 140+ games last year