NAB Cup QF preview: Kangaroos v Geelong

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NAB Cup QF preview: Kangaroos v Geelong
9:35:38 AM Wed 1 March, 2006
Jason Phelan
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KANGAROOS V GEELONG: Saturday, 4 March, 7:45 pm local (8:45 pm AEST), Cairns, Qld.

TV/INTERNET: Channel 10, afl.com.au

PRE-SEASON/NIGHT PREMIERSHIPS WON: Kangaroos - 5 (1965, 1966, 1980, 1995, 1998), Geelong - 1 (1961)

LAST WEEK: The Kangaroos comfortably accounted for a Sydney side that contained just six premiership players in their opening-round clash at Manuka Oval in Canberra. The Roos set up the win with a strong first-half effort before easing down to the line for the win. Geelong saw off a determined effort from a near full-strength Carlton at Telstra Dome where the Cats trailed the Blues early in the final term before flying home with a wet sail to post a 28-point win.
INJURY WATCH: The Roos are starting the season in good shape with only Glenn Archer (hamstring) and Jess Sinclair (calf) unavailable for selection after reporting no fresh injuries from the opening round. The Cats also escaped unscathed, but have five players on the injury list. Steve Johnson (ankle), Matthew McCarthy (back), Peter Riccardi (hamstring), Travis Varcoe (foot) and David Wojcinski (knee) are all on track to be available for round one.

WHO LOOKED GOOD: Daniel Harris was prominent in and around the packs for the Kangaroos and was well-supported by Brady Rawlings and Shannon Grant in the middle. Geelong had winners at both ends of the ground with Kent Kingsley playing the game of his life at full-forward, booting nine goals, and Matthew Scarlett in All-Australian form at full-back.

WHY TO WATCH: Both sides should be nearing full strength for this encounter, so there should be plenty of talent on display. With so many new faces in their line-up, it will be interesting to see how the Kangaroos gameplan evolves as the season progresses. Geelong has been widely touted as a top-four shoe-in this season with many pundits even placing the Cats at the top of their crystal-ball ladders. How will they cope with the pressure of expectation?

THE VERDICT: It's hard to extract much information on the form of a side after just one game, so this will probably come down to which team has the more-settled line-up, and that is undoubtedly Geelong. The Cats are primed to be premiership contenders this year and while the Roos may prove to be as well, they'll need some time to find that all-important team chemistry. Geelong by 19 points.
 

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nananana catman said:
Doesnt mention King and Ottens on the injury list, are they going to play?
Highly doubt it. The gfc.com.au "injury update" says:

Steven King and Brad Ottens remain on track and are increasing their training load each week with a view to playing in the next few weeks.
 
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Same again for Cairns Cats
3:52:03 PM Wed 1 March, 2006
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Geelong will make very few changes to its side as the Cats prepare to head to Cairns to take on the Kangaroos in Saturday's NAB Cup quarter-final.

But that continuity has come about more through necessity than a deep-seated desire to win this week.

The Cats are nursing a host of their star players through the pre-season and Mark Thompson does not want to rush his new draftees, most of whom he considers not yet ready for AFL football.

"The side will be similar to last week's team against Carlton with two extra young players - possibly both rookies," Thompson said from Skilled Stadium on Wednesday.

"There's a lot of players that can't play for us still and we've got to take 26 and there's not many more (after that). Apart from the first-year players, there's no one else ready to go."

Opposition coach Dean Laidley has already flagged that up to 12 senior players will not take part in the match, but Thompson said that would not necessarily give his team the advantage.

"The sides should be very even then because we've got about eight of our best 22 out, so it's not far off. They should be very balanced teams for both of us," he said.

"He might want us to think he's not taking it seriously, but that's certainly not the case. He's going to put a team out there that he wants to put out and we're going to do the same and we'll see who comes out the winner."

The Cats are no strangers to the oppressive conditions that tropical Cairns can produce having played there twice in the last three years and, despite a favourable forecast, they are taking every precaution.

"They're hard conditions to play in up there and it's a long way to go to play a game of footy," he said.

"We're going to take fridges, we're going to take mist machines, we're going to take lots of ice and we're going to take lots of players, but apparently it's going to be cooler up there in Cairns than it is in Melbourne on the weekend.

"The last couple of times we've really looked forward to going up there and we've played good opposition and we've played particularly good football in trying conditions. We want to do the same thing (this time) - we want to try and win the game with the team we're putting out there."

The one recent addition to the Cats list that Thompson does consider ready to throw into the mix is midfielder Mathew Stokes, drafted from SANFL club Woodville-West Torrens after the departure of Cameron Thurley.

"He's more ready than the other boys because he's 21," he said.

"We wouldn't mind having a look at him, he's played senior footy over in Adelaide, so we're quite looking forward to seeing him play.

"We gave up Thurley - the Kangaroos snatched him and talked him into going over to the Kangaroos and we never got anything for him - so we replaced him with Stokes and we'll see how Stokesy goes."
Which two rookies could we see, I'd say Batchelor and Grima. Slade and Sheringham could also see some action. It won't be Hunt, he's injured I think.

I'd be happy to see Stokes play, just to see what he can do at AFL level.
 

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Thompson reving the game up or is he not too happy to have a player pinched

"We gave up Thurley - the Kangaroos snatched him and talked him into going over to the Kangaroos and we never got anything for him - so we replaced him with Stokes and we'll see how Stokesy goes."

 

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Thompson reving the game up or is he not too happy to have a player pinched

"We gave up Thurley - the Kangaroos snatched him and talked him into going over to the Kangaroos and we never got anything for him - so we replaced him with Stokes and we'll see how Stokesy goes."

Hehehe!
 

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WHY TO WATCH: Both sides should be nearing full strength for this encounter, so there should be plenty of talent on display.
Comical.
What has Jason Phelan been smoking?
 

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Turbocat said:
Thompson reving the game up or is he not too happy to have a player pinched

"We gave up Thurley - the Kangaroos snatched him and talked him into going over to the Kangaroos and we never got anything for him - so we replaced him with Stokes and we'll see how Stokesy goes."

I think the heirachy at Geelong are a bit peed off with the Kangas draft tactics. Look at it over the past few years:

*Kangas entice Thurley with a 2 year deal
*Shane Harvey demands Geelong not to pick him in the preseason draft
*Jade Rawlings rejects Geelongs offers to head down to sleepy hollow choosing to play alongside his brother. No deal was made and he ended up with the doggies
*Leigh Colbert - enough said

Sure they haven't really hurt us, heck, a few of them have helped us a fair bit and they're not entirly the Kangas direct fault, but you can understand why Bomber would have a dig when given the opportunity.
 

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Greetings Cat fans, I hope you are all well.:)

I think the heirachy at Geelong are a bit peed off with the Kangas draft tactics. Look at it over the past few years:

*Kangas entice Thurley with a 2 year deal
*Shane Harvey demands Geelong not to pick him in the preseason draft
*Jade Rawlings rejects Geelongs offers to head down to sleepy hollow choosing to play alongside his brother. No deal was made and he ended up with the doggies
*Leigh Colbert - enough said
You can't really blame North too mch for this when you consider:

* Geelong couldn't have wanted Thurley too badly when they would not budge on a 1 year deal, and Thurley would have had to compete for positions against the likes of Junior and Chapman. Surely you guys can see his motives.

* Blokes wanting to leave clubs to play with their brothers is not "anti - Geelong".

* Every club in the league would have given up plenty for Colbert. It is a well known fact that he left because of elements in the GFC at the time.

2 of the scenarios were Geelongs own doing and the other 2 were irrelevant to club politics.

BTW, I think you guys should win by 6-7 goals + this week.

Cheers.
 

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*Kangas entice Thurley with a 2 year deal
The humanity!!

BTW, you can have him back for free. Rubbish footballer.

*Shane Harvey demands Geelong not to pick him in the preseason draft
His mental issues are our fault?

*Jade Rawlings rejects Geelongs offers to head down to sleepy hollow choosing to play alongside his brother.
That bastard!!!

*Leigh Colbert - enough said
Leigh's call in the end, but I don't imagine we approached him during the year. We could have, I dunno.


Anyway, you unloaded Thurley and completely dodged the Harvey and Rawlings bullet's.

Bomber should be doing little happy dances.
 

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Geelong will make the NAB final. No doubt about it. WHEN Geelong beat North this week, they play the winner of Fremantle and Collingwood yeah? Then the next weeks game should be in Melbourne even if Freo win.

I wanna see Batch, Shezz and Grima all play this week. Perfect scenario to bring these players and give them a run when North arent posting their best team.

I like Grima. Sounds like a good sort and suprises me that no club picked him in the National draft. U/18 AA along with 10 goals in the U/18 champs last year. Could be good in a few years. Might even challenge for Gardiners position.

Good luck.
 
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Greetings Cat fans, I hope you are all well.:)



You can't really blame North too mch for this when you consider:

* Geelong couldn't have wanted Thurley too badly when they would not budge on a 1 year deal, and Thurley would have had to compete for positions against the likes of Junior and Chapman. Surely you guys can see his motives.

* Blokes wanting to leave clubs to play with their brothers is not "anti - Geelong".

* Every club in the league would have given up plenty for Colbert. It is a well known fact that he left because of elements in the GFC at the time.

2 of the scenarios were Geelongs own doing and the other 2 were irrelevant to club politics.

BTW, I think you guys should win by 6-7 goals + this week.

Cheers.
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Rosso said:
I think the heirachy at Geelong are a bit peed off with the Kangas draft tactics. Look at it over the past few years:

*Kangas entice Thurley with a 2 year deal
*Shane Harvey demands Geelong not to pick him in the preseason draft
*Jade Rawlings rejects Geelongs offers to head down to sleepy hollow choosing to play alongside his brother. No deal was made and he ended up with the doggies
*Leigh Colbert - enough said

Sure they haven't really hurt us, heck, a few of them have helped us a fair bit and they're not entirly the Kangas direct fault, but you can understand why Bomber would have a dig when given the opportunity.
None of them have hurt us at all, I would imagine. Thurley? Yeh, not bad, but not great for his age either - the best move for him was most definetely the one he took. Shane Harvey? No, no, no, no, no. Rawlings hasn't come through with the goods since leaving Hawthorn whilst you could argue that whilst we lost a lot with Colbert we also made a few significant gains too.
 

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iameviljez said:
None of them have hurt us at all, I would imagine. Thurley? Yeh, not bad, but not great for his age either - the best move for him was most definetely the one he took. Shane Harvey? No, no, no, no, no. Rawlings hasn't come through with the goods since leaving Hawthorn whilst you could argue that whilst we lost a lot with Colbert we also made a few significant gains too.
I did mention that they didn't really hurt us. The whole point of it was that over the past few years the Kangas have, directly or indirectly, had an impact on our trading & drafting. That's why Bomber had a bit of a dig at the Kangas.
 

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They also jumped in and took Harding on us as well.

Again not a huge loss, he has probably only played half a dozen good games in his career, most of them have been against us :(
 

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*Jade Rawlings rejects Geelongs offers to head down to sleepy hollow choosing to play alongside his brother. No deal was made and he ended up with the doggies.
I was under the impression that the Geelong medical team said that Rawlings only had about 2 years left in his knees, and Geelong wouldn't offer Rawlings anything more substantial than a 2 year contract. Rawlings wanted longer, the cats wouldn't give it to him so the deal fell through?
 

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Rosso said:
I think the heirachy at Geelong are a bit peed off with the Kangas draft tactics. Look at it over the past few years:

*Kangas entice Thurley with a 2 year deal
*Shane Harvey demands Geelong not to pick him in the preseason draft
*Jade Rawlings rejects Geelongs offers to head down to sleepy hollow choosing to play alongside his brother. No deal was made and he ended up with the doggies
*Leigh Colbert - enough said
I think they'd be laughing...

Thurley wouldve been cut at seasons end, hence he moved clubs for security.

Harvey is mustard and wouldve been cut by now.

Rawlings wouldve cost us Bartel and Tenace :O

We got Mooney and Enright out of the Colbert Deal....
 
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Squads are
Kangaroos squad: Hamish McIntosh, Brady Rawlings, Daniel Harris, Daniel McConnell, Jesse Smith, Cameron Thurley, David Trotter, Kasey Green, Brad Moran, Andrew Swallow, Chad Jones, Michael Firrito, Ed Lower, Sav Rocca, Jade Rawlings, Matt Riggio, Daniel Pratt, David Hale, Eddie Sansbury, Ben Schwarze, Troy Makepeace, Shannon Watt, Joel Perry, Josh Gibson, Leigh Harding, Brent LeCras, Scott McMahon, Justin Perkins.

Geelong squad: Jimmy Bartel, Josh Hunt, James Kelly, Kane Tenace, Joel Corey, Tom Lonergan, Paul Koulouriotis, Charlie Gardiner, Shannon Brynes, Kent Kingsley, Matthew Egan, Cameron Mooney, Nathan Ablett, Mark Blake, Matthew Spencer, Mathew Stokes, David Johnson, Gary Ablett, Matthew Scarlett, Brent Prismall, Jarad Rooke, Paul Chapman, Will Slade, Darren Milburn, Tim Sheringham, Nick Batchelor, Corey Enright, Cameron Ling.
 
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