Game Day NAB Cup Round 1 - Hawthorn v Brisbane

[The Flying Belgian]

The game was basically played from half-way to the Hawks' goals all night. Backs didn't have a lot to do.

Was actually surprised that our inside 50 count was over 30. Certainly didn't feel like it.

 

[James North]

Was actually surprised that our inside 50 count was over 30. Certainly didn't feel like it.

I think it was from the parallel-universe soccer game that we were playing on the same field.

We kicked heaps of goals in that one.

 

[Quigley]

Do you think that you need 'dealing' with Quigs?

That is for others to judge apparently.

 

[Hollow Knight]

We had a lot of players out but off the top of my head Hawthorn were also without most of their backline and it seemed to function pretty well against a much taller and more experienced forward line from teh Lions. The young Hawks backs knew what they were supposed to do and played to plan. By doing so the NZ rookie looked bloody good and Cheney looked like a KP. Wanganeen looked like a major talent. FM they had one experienced player at the back and that was Suckling who was out for most of last year. There were missing Birchall, Lake, Gibson, Schoenmakers, Hodge, Whitecross from their back unit.

Yeah but bit of a difference between a premiership sign with a depleted backline and a 12th place side that is gutted on every line.

Even we ran over the top of a reasonably depleted Collingwood side in the NAB Cup last year, but the side we put out last night was substantially more depleted again.

My lack of surprise at the result is equalled by my confusion as to what Leppa was hoping to accomplish.

 

[Quigley]

That is fair and I was not expecting much. Unfortunately my even low expectations were nowhere near met.

The regression on the skills and the massively poor ball handling were the biggest concern for me (far more than the game plan issue we have been arguing about which really was a minor point I thought in my original post). Like I said first up there were plenty of excuses for the young blokes but there were the same issues from guys who have been around a while.

 

[Hollow Knight]

That is fair and I was not expecting much. Unfortunately my even low expectations were nowhere near met.

The regression on the skills and the massively poor ball handling were the biggest concern for me (far more than the game plan issue we have been arguing about which really was a minor point I thought in my original post). Like I said first up there were plenty of excuses for the young blokes but there were the same issues from guys who have been around a while.

Yeah, may be hopium on my part but I am choosing to believe for now that the lack of quality overall just becomes infectious in that situation.

 

[John]

One cube or two ?

Kilo bags.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Kilo bags.

Worked with an old school public servant back at Treasury - you know the type, khaki shorts, long white or grey socks... took every Wednesday off to play golf.

Loved his International Roast... wouldn't touch that frothy milky flat white crap that us "fashionable" types all drank

 

[John]

Worked with an old school public servant back at Treasury - you know the type, khaki shorts, long white or grey socks... took every Wednesday off to play golf.

Loved his International Roast... wouldn't touch that frothy milky flat white crap that us "fashionable" types all drank

I resemble that post!

 

[Davemonkey]

I apologise wholeheartedly for any offence I caused to anyone for my post where I deliberately didn't quote anyone because I didn't want to misrepresent individual comments, thus causing offence when I assumed that what I read was what they meant.

I remember when I was a mod and no-one took me on. This is quite affronting. I may need to force my way back into a position of power.

It's the switch from Klink to Hogan. I can't respect your japery. Ever when having rings run around you as Klink at least you always have a Wehrmacht tailor and looked the part.


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[Davemonkey]

I reckon it's impossible to put into practise any game plan with a NEAFL team against the team that Hawthorn put on the park.

As a result, they could have actually been trying to implement it the entire night.

I think the NEAFL team point is a fair one. With the exception of Green, Zorko, Golby, Lester and Harwood most of the guys on the park last night will be eligible for the NEAFL Threepeat grannie. Sadly, I include Goose Maguire in that (hopefully just one bad game) and almost certainly Raines. Aish and Robbo might be the exceptions who don't qualify by a couple of games.

Yes, yes, yes. I have forgotten a player or two or three. I have a memory like a sieve and young footballers all tend to blend in to a conglomerate pimply faced red head with a beard, but you know what I mean.


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[acuguy]

I think the best way to sum this whole situation up is this

We are all proud and passionate lions supporters and seeing our team completely dominated just didn't sit well with any of us regardless of who was playing. None of us can handle our jersey, club and team being that uncompetitive. It is the sort of game we never use to have to watch, it would have been played at Leongatha and we would have all said, shit that was bad and moved on. Unfortunately we had to witness it!

 

[Triple R]

Jordan Lewis went to hip and shoulder Lisle early in the first quarter, he glanced him with the blow and after that Lisle was wary of contact. He can mark well, kick rather well, he's a competitor, he sets up play rather well and his is a very good handballer. Again, (as has been stated many times) he needs to just go hard and not worry about the contact. Unfortunately, this has been said about him for many years.

 

[Toffee Lion]

I think the best way to sum this whole situation up is this

We are all proud and passionate lions supporters and seeing our team completely dominated just didn't sit well with any of us regardless of who was playing. None of us can handle our jersey, club and team being that uncompetitive. It is the sort of game we never use to have to watch, it would have been played at Leongatha and we would have all said, shit that was bad and moved on. Unfortunately we had to witness it!

Can't we just blame the paddle pop and move onto the next game?

So much easier.

 

[patfullfankezz]

Can't we just blame the paddle pop and move onto the next game?

So much easier.

How about no?

 

[Haso]

How about no?

Majority rules Kezz.

Damn you paddlepop!

 

[patfullfankezz]

Majority rules Kezz.

Damn you paddlepop!

In which case then, the Paddlepop is also responsible for our wins against Essendon and Geelong.

 

[Haso]

In which case then, the Paddlepop is also responsible for our wins against Essendon and Geelong.

I'm sure that was just the boys' guts and determination. The Paddlepop works in mysterious and menacing ways.

It's basically science.

 

[patfullfankezz]

I'm sure that was just the boys' guts and determination. The Paddlepop works in mysterious and menacing ways.

It's basically science.

The PFK works like that. One minute she's joking around, the next she's got you tied up in her basement with hot pokers sticking out of your legs.

 

[Haso]

The PFK works like that. One minute she's joking around, the next she's got you tied up in her basement with hot pokers sticking out of your legs.

 

[Toffee Lion]

How about no?

Was a joke.

 

[Yesterday]

You seem very certain that we had a game plan. Care to explain it to me?

I am sure that Leppa had a game plan just as I am sure that it was not capable of being discerned from the mess we were last night. The match showed that our second group is a long way from being able to implement what we have to assume Leppa wants. Yes they were young and I did not expect a fully functional game plan but some pointers should have been there which I didn't see.

The options you left our were that the players didn't know or understand the game plan enough to implement it or that they misunderstood what they were supposed to be doing in different situations and so were left with a mess or alternatively that different players understood the game plan differently and so everyone was doing something different. Whatever though the result was the same in that the game plan was nowhere in evidence and so Leppa loses a little of his lustre. Not much mind but the disppointment level is there.

You want to be an apologist for a shocking performance thats fine. Some people though might want to vent about what they saw or what they thought they should have seen. That should also be fine.

Well said Quigley. Given I was one of those treacherous long term supporters ( just because I haven't been in here for decades doesn't make me more passionate than others) that had the temerity to suggest that the game plan wasn't evident to me, it's been intersting to read those in defence of the game. That's ok too as everyone has their own take on what we saw last night.


I sincerely hope that these young men regroup and learn from last night. Lets face it if the A team get injured they will be playing AFL, so there's nowhere to hide. As I stated earlier, maulings like that can have a detrimental effect on some players.

I watched the replay today and stand by my comments. I have no idea what the game plan was.

 

[MICKYCONLAN]

Do people who think the marketing dept. care about this game honestly think that Queenslanders who aren't football tragic's are watching a preseason game that is foxtel only?

I seriously think you overrate the interest the broader public has in AFL up here.

The game was played here in Melbourne. There are 50,000 ex Fitzroy supporters here. A good showing may have snagged a few memberships.

 

[patfullfankezz]

Let's put it this way - these boys found out what footy is really about in a low to no pressure game. No premiership points to worry about.

Now imagine Leppa had done what every other coach did, played his senior players, and suddenly a fair few of our stars get injured/suspended (looking at you Rog!) and suddenly these boys are thrown into a game against teams who are out for blood and points. The same thing happens - and suddenly you feel a million times worse because there was a million more things at stake.

I reckon Leppa told the boys that this could and most likely would happen. I reckon he got them together in the week before the game and said "You boys are going to learn a very hard lesson against the Hawks." I bet he's also planned a sort of debriefing for them. "How did that make you feel? Why do you think that happened?" I bet the older players are in on it too, a few of them have gotten hidings before, they'll be talking to the boys who were out there and talking about how they coped and how they came back from it.

There's more to being an AFL player than just getting drafted, and those boys learnt it in a way that I don't think they'll forget in a hurry.

 

[James North]

I watched the replay today and stand by my comments. I have no idea what the game plan was.

I don't think anybody does ... and I don't think anybody has made out that they knew what it was.

It's just a very possible scenario that there was an excellent, game-winning plan, but the young guys couldn't execute it.