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3rdMan

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This was a fun one. We deliberately broke the 6-6-6 rule before the De Goey goal to give Cox an advantage in the ruck. [Edit: to clarify, I wasn't saying we did this deliberately. Relaying the complaint of others]


If it is true, great, purposely infringing rules that give you an advantage has been a part of sport forever. Just doubt we were that organised.
 
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Chameleon75

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This was a fun one. We deliberately broke the 6-6-6 rule before the De Goey goal to give Cox an advantage in the ruck.


If it is true, great, purposely infringing rules that give you an advantage has been a part of sport forever. Just doubt we were that organised.
the bizarre suggestion is that it was a set play, daicos leaping and hand balling over his head would be a pretty low percentage play to practice as a set play.
 

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We ought to have beaten them in the worst-umpired QF ever. We added the Norm Smith medallist, Nick went onto a Brownlow-worthy season, we added Mitchell who himself is a Brownlow winner, added Markov and Frampton, De Goey had his best season… but nah we went backwards to win the flag this year because it makes this guy feel better. “Not a hope”.
The premier & minor premier 2023 Collingwood doesn't beat the 4th placed 2022 Collingwood, despite all the better players added to the former....
 

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the bizarre suggestion is that it was a set play, daicos leaping and hand balling over his head would be a pretty low percentage play to practice as a set play.
Fly talked a bit about it on 360. Not so much a set play but a guiding philosophy as to the movement they want to go with when the Rocca sign is held up.
 

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I wouldn’t be surprised if we did deliberately infringe there to make the target more predictable for Cox with his superior height/reach. Beyond that, I imagine the hit zone is planned and the rest is just surging it forward. Can’t plan for Dunkley to slip or Daicos to give/go in mid-air.
 

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the bizarre suggestion is that it was a set play, daicos leaping and hand balling over his head would be a pretty low percentage play to practice as a set play.
Set play as in the middle at the ruck contest and getting the ball out. Not so much what happened forward leading to the goal.

If thats what happened I'm even more impressed.
 

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This was a fun one. We deliberately broke the 6-6-6 rule before the De Goey goal to give Cox an advantage in the ruck.


If it is true, great, purposely infringing rules that give you an advantage has been a part of sport forever. Just doubt we were that organised.
If they've done that deliberately, then good on them, but I highly doubt it. Brisbane did the same thing at the next bounce.
 

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I wouldn’t be surprised if we did deliberately infringe there to make the target more predictable for Cox with his superior height/reach. Beyond that, I imagine the hit zone is planned and the rest is just surging it forward. Can’t plan for Dunkley to slip or Daicos to give/go in mid-air.
Yeah that's possible and fine with it. I just think it's unlikely we had the presence of mind to purposely infringe.

McRae mentioned two "set plays" on 360. Rocca and Presti. Basically, defend or attack.

He did mention that Nick was heading forward before the ruck contest and Pendles called him back. Not sure if that caused the infringement. If so, seems like Nick might have noticed, but Pendles wanted him in the square.
 

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This was a fun one. We deliberately broke the 6-6-6 rule before the De Goey goal to give Cox an advantage in the ruck. [Edit: to clarify, I wasn't saying we did this deliberately. Relaying the complaint of others]


If it is true, great, purposely infringing rules that give you an advantage has been a part of sport forever. Just doubt we were that organised.
Cox also looks best where he can run and jump at the ball, so the whole posit is ludicrous.

Just look at how he goes at ball ins where it’s more a wrestle and requiring core strength.
 

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On the 6-6-6. Watching the couch, we only had 5 forward. Lipinski ran in to make it 6 but must have been too late. Seems conclusive that it was just a mistake. As mentioned above Nick was about to move forward but called back by Pendles, so that may have caused the delay.
 

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I wouldn’t be surprised if we did deliberately infringe there to make the target more predictable for Cox with his superior height/reach. Beyond that, I imagine the hit zone is planned and the rest is just surging it forward. Can’t plan for Dunkley to slip or Daicos to give/go in mid-air.
Was more to it than just the CB setup....yes we got a bit of luck with Dunkley slipping over.

But.....
Our Wingers held their width and hardly came into the square at all.
Our defenders push up hard and left their men to run from behind.
Our fwds stayed I50 and even pushed away from the square to create the space.

The whole thing was risk/reward and predicated on winning the clearance.
We had a heap of space to surge into because of the setup and movement of our players.

If the Bris defenders had have been brave enough to send a defender into the square instead of all dropping back ....
Or if their wingers made a defensive run instead of running directly at the contest.....that play likely doesn't happen.

So its on Bris for lack of defensive communication and gameplan for the game situation as much it was on us.

compare that to the ball up after the Sidey goal....notice Lippa arrives into the contest from the fwd line and we have a defender pushing up....sidey standing defensive side....clear difference in how we go about the movement and the game situation.
 

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Without a doubt, the worst premiership side. A 3rd of the Pies side is damn average. I have always liked Oleg but he would struggle to be in most teams best 22. He's probably the best from this list of 9 and that's saying something. Anyway, the only player I'm happy for is Marcov.

The more I read over these names the more I scratch my head thinking how the heck did the pies win the premiership.
In our peak none of these players would be getting games.
Darcy Cameron, Will Hoskin-Elliott, Jack Ginnivan, Mason Cox, Beau McCreery, Oleg Markov, Billy Frampton, Nathan Murphy, Patrick Lipinski
 

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Ivan Soldo won a flag with them but Cameron and Cox can't?
Castagna won a flag with them yet McCreery can't?
Noah Balta won a flag with them yet Murphy can't?
Marlion Pickett won a flag with them yet Hoskin-Elliott can't?
 

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On the 6-6-6. Watching the couch, we only had 5 forward. Lipinski ran in to make it 6 but must have been too late. Seems conclusive that it was just a mistake. As mentioned above Nick was about to move forward but called back by Pendles, so that may have caused the delay.

Sitting directly opposite the benches, I could see that there was a very late call for someone to go to the bench and Lipinski to come on. Almost certainly not deliberate, but definitely made not caring that it would cause a 6-6-6 warning.
 

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This was a fun one. We deliberately broke the 6-6-6 rule before the De Goey goal to give Cox an advantage in the ruck. [Edit: to clarify, I wasn't saying we did this deliberately. Relaying the complaint of others]


If it is true, great, purposely infringing rules that give you an advantage has been a part of sport forever. Just doubt we were that organised.
So immediately after did the Lions break the same rule to try and get the same advantage?
Nonsense suggestion that it was deliberate. Under 5 minutes to go in a less than a goal the difference grand final.
It was bedlam on both benches. Lipinski coming on late was more like the bench suddenly seeing they had 5 active players off the ground!
 

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I wouldn’t be surprised if we did deliberately infringe there to make the target more predictable for Cox with his superior height/reach. Beyond that, I imagine the hit zone is planned and the rest is just surging it forward. Can’t plan for Dunkley to slip or Daicos to give/go in mid-air.

This would be the best conspiracy ever but he then won the next 3 centre bounces without 666 a similar way!
 

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