Rumour Nathan Bourkes callactive company pulled it's own George Colambrous 5 years ago

[Benny78]

Now this is just a rumour, but I have it on good authority Nathan Bourke owned a company called callactive and screwed around 50 employees (could be way more) out of owed wages some thousands each. When it got to the point the company couldn't escape owing all it's employees this pay, the company declared bankrupcty and Bourke along with the CEO got to keep their 4mil dollar mansions in Toorak. Leaving a large amount of employees heavily underpaid.

Not sure exactly what it was but fairly certain these employees were never paid their annual leave and possibly even underpaid pay slips. Would be interesting if this is true as those employees should still be compensated and Mercedes and houses seized for debt collection if necessary.

Would be something definitely worth looking into Damien Barrett if you're reading this.

 

[Quivorir]

Would be something definitely worth looking into Damien Barrett if you're reading this.

Lol as if the grub isn't reading.

 

[Chubberson]

Cmon Damo get on it ya thin lipped four eyed bottom feeding flog.

 

[ZEV]

Good authority, you were a bloody expert and involved in the matter last year...

Nathan Burke doesn't get mentioned because he helped his ceo mate at the company callactive scam workers out of owed pay after blatantly underpaying them.

He actually called up the workers and attempted to use his status to swindle them out of being compensated. CEO went "bankrupt", workers left uncompensated, while last I heard ceo hides in his mansion behind all his luxury cars (literally).

Milne and a couple of other flogs would also rock up in the staff carparks sometimes and take their shirts off hoping to pickup at lunch time lol.

Well when he rang up we got the impression he was trying to facilitate perhaps a meet and handshake under the understanding we didn't take it further. We think. He may have just been trying to talk us out of it, but we just ignored him in a polite manner, thanked him politely over and over and kept having to tell him we'll be taking it further. Then he eventually conceded and hung up. Then the prick ceo to escape paying out his workers declared bankruptcy. Not sure how bankruptcy works but he shorted something between 50-200 people over thousands each in pay, and managed to keep his 8 million mansion (pre boom) and maserati type cars. No one ended up getting anything back that was the end of it.

The company was callactive not sure of the ceo's name but Nathan Burke seemed very invested. He was very polite of course covering for his mate. We felt like asbestos victims receiving a call from Julie Bishop! Just your typical story of the despicable privileged attempting to use their status to steal from those making a lot lot less.

edit: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj-h_Ow5PbaAhVFybwKHav1DWIQFggtMAE&url=http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/melbourne-call-centre-call-active-told-sacked-workers-of-company-collapse-with-15-minutes-notice/news-story/77a91f0bb61dd45c2eecdb40ab518ebd&usg=AOvVaw3-A4-r9sYlvbN-_Q2Rh6s0

that actually seems like it, or the version for the public, it's paywalled so I can't read it.

 

[Chubberson]

Disgruntled employee?

 

[DapperDon]

4mill Toorak mansion?

Is it a 1 bedder?

 

[Benny78]

4mill Toorak mansion?

Is it a 1 bedder?

It was 2015. So the house he owned using employees wages then must've made him a killing. Maybe those people should be repaid their stake in the investment also. If they owned 1/50th of it they should receive 1/50th of the profit.

 

[ZEV]

It was 2015. So the house he owned using employees wages then must've made him a killing. Maybe those people should be repaid their stake in the investment also. If they owned 1/50th of it they should receive 1/50th of the profit.

Happy First birthday for yesterday as well mate

 

[Benny78]

Happy First birthday for yesterday as well mate

Is that you George?

 

[ZEV]

Is that you George?

No, just someone who predicted these kind of things would happen when FWA decided to block every ECA every company submitted in order to simplify payroll 7-8 years ago and expected everyone to be business law experts to hire someone to make a coffee.

 

[Benny78]

No, just someone who predicted these kind of things would happen when FWA decided to block every ECA every company submitted in order to simplify payroll 7-8 years ago and expected everyone to be business law experts to hire someone to make a coffee.

Ah yes. So you must have to justify to yourself underpaying your employees all the time. Bet they love you

Funny how at the end of the day a boss owes his employees thousands and is still able to have a mansion. Why don't they seize the property, sell it, and pay the staff their money? Is the mansion owned by a trust fund in the Caymans somewhere?

Why didn't George just walk away from paying his workers? It seems the law actually applied in his case.

 

[ZEV]

Ah yes. So you must have to justify to yourself underpaying your employees all the time. Bet they love you

Actually, I was fortunate enough to have an eca passed in 2012 and thanks to monthly audits and quarterly reviews have technically been overpaying employees for the entire period. A win win because they get more $$$ and I save more by having a simplified and fairer payroll system. Unfortunately though I am highly qualified in the area. A chef, I a not however.

 

[Rowan18]

Ah yes. So you must have to justify to yourself underpaying your employees all the time. Bet they love you

Funny how at the end of the day a boss owes his employees thousands and is still able to have a mansion. Why don't they seize the property, sell it, and pay the staff their money? Is the mansion owned by a trust fund in the Caymans somewhere?

Why didn't George just walk away from paying his workers? It seems the law actually applied in his case.

Wow -you have no idea about business do you. Things like tax and employment law are incredibly complicated and filled with grey areas. The law leaves it up to employers to pay thousands and thousands to advisors and ensure their own compliance, with the regulators able to then swan in and make a snap ruling on an individual circumstance that can only be disputed through the courts (costing hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars to fight).

To manage this risk (among others) most sensible people would have their business in a separate entity to other assets (eg their house). If the business is insolvent and does not trade when insolvent, the Director's other assets are protected. The reason they get to keep "their" mansion is that it isn't owned by the business (probably is in wife's name or family trust).

The solution here would be to simplify employment law so there aren't so many classifications/penalty rates etc so it is very obvious what is owed to whom.

 

[Hellobill]

Wow -you have no idea about business do you. Things like tax and employment law are incredibly complicated and filled with grey areas. The law leaves it up to employers to pay thousands and thousands to advisors and ensure their own compliance, with the regulators able to then swan in and make a snap ruling on an individual circumstance that can only be disputed through the courts (costing hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars to fight).

To manage this risk (among others) most sensible people would have their business in a separate entity to other assets (eg their house). If the business is insolvent and does not trade when insolvent, the Director's other assets are protected. The reason they get to keep "their" mansion is that it isn't owned by the business (probably is in wife's name or family trust).

The solution here would be to simplify employment law so there aren't so many classifications/penalty rates etc so it is very obvious what is owed to whom.

Also put their balls and time on the line and provide employment for many people but so easy to snipe and 'create' a rumour about someone

 

[craffles]

Cool

 

[76woodenspooners]

Now this is just a rumour, but I have it on good authority Nathan Bourke owned a company called callactive and screwed around 50 employees (could be way more) out of owed wages some thousands each. When it got to the point the company couldn't escape owing all it's employees this pay, the company declared bankrupcty and Bourke along with the CEO got to keep their 4mil dollar mansions in Toorak. Leaving a large amount of employees heavily underpaid.

Not sure exactly what it was but fairly certain these employees were never paid their annual leave and possibly even underpaid pay slips. Would be interesting if this is true as those employees should still be compensated and Mercedes and houses seized for debt collection if necessary.

What others have said ...

+ Employees wages (inc annual leave) is federally guaranteed under the GEERS system so staff would have received their entitlements. It would have taken time (3 - 12 months) but they would have received it eventually. Spare a thought for the business creditors who wouldn’t have been so lucky.

+ This kind of thing happens **all the time**. Google “ASIC insolvency notices”. Provided the company wasn’t trading while insolvent (rare and hard to prove) or some other fraud then there is nothing illegal. This is a scandal why?

+ If our society was one that went after the private assets of people whose business failed ...

... what kind of society would we be? Who’d be mad enough go into business and employ people? Where would jobs come from? The government would be the only employer - it’d be like one of those basket case socialist countries.

+ Running a business and employing staff and having more money come in than what goes out is friggen’ hard. Sometimes (often) s**t happens. If business didn’t take any risks, what kind of an economy would we have? Answer: negative inflation -> recession -> people losing their jobs -> back to where you started.

 

[Bollox]

Now this is just a rumour, but I have it on good authority Nathan Bourke owned a company called callactive and screwed around 50 employees (could be way more) out of owed wages some thousands each. When it got to the point the company couldn't escape owing all it's employees this pay, the company declared bankrupcty and Bourke along with the CEO got to keep their 4mil dollar mansions in Toorak. Leaving a large amount of employees heavily underpaid.

Not sure exactly what it was but fairly certain these employees were never paid their annual leave and possibly even underpaid pay slips. Would be interesting if this is true as those employees should still be compensated and Mercedes and houses seized for debt collection if necessary.

Would be something definitely worth looking into Damien Barrett if you're reading this.

Cant buy a mansion anywhere for 4mill. Not even Toorak.
Think u must mean " keep their 4mil dollar renovator special in Toorak "

Stay on point scoop.

 

[Pacman Carney]

Now this is just a rumour, but I have it on good authority Nathan Bourke owned a company called callactive and screwed around 50 employees (could be way more) out of owed wages some thousands each. When it got to the point the company couldn't escape owing all it's employees this pay, the company declared bankrupcty and Bourke along with the CEO got to keep their 4mil dollar mansions in Toorak. Leaving a large amount of employees heavily underpaid.

Not sure exactly what it was but fairly certain these employees were never paid their annual leave and possibly even underpaid pay slips. Would be interesting if this is true as those employees should still be compensated and Mercedes and houses seized for debt collection if necessary.

Would be something definitely worth looking into Damien Barrett if you're reading this.

formerly known as PCI, based in East Bentleigh. changed name to Call Active...… mmmm, wonder why?
PCI had a rather large Telstra contract back in 2011
Burke was "head of HR"

was owned by rother Rick & Phil Allan, nuffy StKilda supporters, hence Burkes involvement.
PCI previously had name on front of Saints jumper

 

[Moquo]

PCI previously had name on front of Saints jumper

When was that?

 

[Pacman Carney]

When was that?

Actually, I think I’m wrong there, wasn’t on the jumpers, it was on the background banners
That sit behind the press conferences. As was call active too
Probably 10 years ago?

 

[Moquo]

Actually, I think I’m wrong there, wasn’t on the jumpers, it was on the background banners
That sit behind the press conferences. As was call active too
Probably 10 years ago?

ok, cheers

 

[Benny78]

Cant buy a mansion anywhere for 4mill. Not even Toorak.
Think u must mean " keep their 4mil dollar renovator special in Toorak "

Stay on point scoop.

This was around 2014

 

[Mat Mann]

Now this is just a rumour, but I have it on good authority Nathan Bourke owned a company called callactive and screwed around 50 employees (could be way more) out of owed wages some thousands each. When it got to the point the company couldn't escape owing all it's employees this pay, the company declared bankrupcty and Bourke along with the CEO got to keep their 4mil dollar mansions in Toorak. Leaving a large amount of employees heavily underpaid.

Not sure exactly what it was but fairly certain these employees were never paid their annual leave and possibly even underpaid pay slips. Would be interesting if this is true as those employees should still be compensated and Mercedes and houses seized for debt collection if necessary.

Would be something definitely worth looking into Damien Barrett if you're reading this.

I have it on good authority that if you googled this s**t it'd tell you the real story and you wouldn't have to slander a blokes name and reputation for 5 mins worth of "look at me time"

CallActive closed the doors on its 1,300 seat facility in East Bentleigh as well as their 180 seat New Zealand facility based in Melbourne effective immediately.
The sudden closure of CallActive has left employees out of pocket with salaries not paid for the previous fortnight.
And with no advance warnings of the impending closure provided, its left many of the staff not knowing how they will put food on the table.
There has also been reports by CallActive employees that Superannuation has not been paid for over 12 months as well as all annual leave entitlements so it certainly looks like a rough ride ahead for the staff at the worst time of the year.
Owner and co-director of CallActive, Rick Allan said the company’s lawyers had appointed liquidators after bowing to “global pressures” associated with trying to compete with Asian-based call centres.
Both Rick, and co-director brother Phil Allan were reeling at the company’s closure.

oh look on Burke's own company website

Since retiring he has been an AFL Assistant Coach, Senior Consultant at leading Management Consultancy, Mettle Group and recently Chief Operating Officer and People and Cultural Manager at CallActive Pty Ltd.

As for workers being left short......

About 60 CallActive workers at the Willeston Street office in Wellington and over 200 staff in the Melbourne CallActive office were impacted. Australian staff have since received outstanding entitlements thanks to the Fair Entitlements Guarantee put in place by the Australian Government.

Burke left the company a year (2014) before it collapsed......

Goss is one thing, but you are making it sound like Burke deliberately screwed people over for personal gain, when he didn't even own the company....

 

[Mat Mann]

formerly known as PCI, based in East Bentleigh. changed name to Call Active...… mmmm, wonder why?
PCI had a rather large Telstra contract back in 2011
Burke was "head of HR"

was owned by rother Rick & Phil Allan, nuffy StKilda supporters, hence Burkes involvement.
PCI previously had name on front of Saints jumper

CallActive formerly Vertex Australia, formerly PCI, a company that had been in operation for 40 years.

Company's change names, doesn't mean anything sinister went on, I'd guess its a rebranding exercise to rejuvenate their look, trends change and companies change their view on how they want their interaction points to be seen, Bieng a call centre I'd imagine it'd be imperative to be on trend for the likes of Telstra and Coles, who all moved their call centres off shore around this period.(2013), company went bankrupt in 2014.

I don't know Burke, I don't know this company, but this is some seriously tin foil hat theory.

 

[Benny78]

I have it on good authority that if you googled this s**t it'd tell you the real story and you wouldn't have to slander a blokes name and reputation for 5 mins worth of "look at me time"



oh look on Burke's own company website


As for workers being left short......


Burke left the company a year (2014) before it collapsed......

Goss is one thing, but you are making it sound like Burke deliberately screwed people over for personal gain, when he didn't even own the company....

Wow funny, the only google expert here is you. I have personal accounts of people not receiving their pay and being left dry by these people.

All the people in this thread trying to justify screwing over employees.. because of payroll changes lol. I don't care what changes mate. People are owed the rest of their salary. Get a clue. Repossess the *ing mansion sell it and give people their money I don't care what it takes.

Your google facts couldn't be any more wrong. I was in the living room when we received call from Nathan Burke himself offering a meet and greet as damage control. He didn't leave the company before it collapsed, he left because it collapsed. We told him to (politely) * off and pay the money. The wages were was never fully received, and the prick kept his mansion. That's what actually matters to the people unless you're a trash hick wage slave advocate from queensland.

Amazing the amount of keyboard warriors and wage slave advocates are in this thread. You've got a handful of people justifying a boss leaving his employees dry instead of condemning the crooked boss. No wonder this country is completely ****ed the people in it are rubbish!