- Oct 8, 2009
- AFL Club
In 2011 you made a grand final and were just absolutely horrific when it matted against Geelong. Would hardly believe that a host of clubs had dissected, maybe Hawthorn and Geelong obviously, but the Hawks were on the way to huge success.The team he took over wasn't that good it was a game plan that was good until it was figured out straight after 2010. It took most teams a couple of years but the top ones had it dissected by the end of 2011.
The team is mid tier rebuilding take out Fasolo, Elliott and Moore from the forwardine and no Swanny we lose to mid tier teams by 2 goals. No issues here/
It's a bit ridiculous to act like Mick's gameplan was pretty much the only reason they were successful. That ignores the fact that they had three jets in the middle in Thomas, Swan and Pendlebury along with a developing Beams and Sidebottom who has only gotten better as a player since 2011. Cloke was a gun up forward, and down back they had talent plus experience, something they're completely devoid of now. They certainly weren't the 2010 Saints or 2013 Dockers who had some genuinely ordinary talent in their sides. Clearly Mick had found something in the group and used it to his advantage. Buckley hasn't done that, so I think it's fair to argue that he might have ruined Collingwood from being far more successful with that side.In 2010 yes. As he said, in 2011 things changed. The game plan was figured out by team after team.
Proof in the pudding is how abysmal that game plan was when Mick came to Carlton. Sure we didn't have the cattle but so many of those players look far better under Bolton's game plan.
Predicting a dynasty when everything worked great in 2010 does not make a lie out of saying the game plan failednin 2011. These things evolve fast.
The whole argument around Buckley is that he was too focused on building his own team, rather than building on Mick's list and that it has backfired. It certainly has merit in my view. Back in 2012/13 when it began, we thought by now they'd have some young guns to complement the aging ones and keep them up the top of the ladder. It hasn't happened.
As for Carlton, that's merely an example of a coach trying to work miracles. That list wasn't his own and by the time he started getting a list better accustomed to what he wanted, the results weren't there and time was ticking.