Well it depends. Martin can go forward and kick multiple goals and break a game open, would kick a lot more if he played there more. Fyfe is a more dominant mid. Martin has a boot as good as anyone in the game, Fyfe marks the ball which is rare for a mid. So hard to split.Martnis good but if you had to choose between the 2 to make your team a better all round side you'd have to take Fyfe.
Use your eyes and watch them play. Also look at what is used to calculate disposal efficiency and clanger stats.You should probably follow that up with something that IS a good way to judge someone's kicking then, rather than just throw stones.
Fact of the matter is, Fyfe's kicking ability has been greatly played down due to the first quarter of the 2013 GF.
He is a good enough kick, Martin is a powerful kick, who occasionally hits a clanger. If Martin gets the ball anywhere near the 50m line from any angle he's a good chance of kicking it.Funnily enough I do watch Fyfe play, being a Dockers supporter and all. He's a good kick.
Agree completely on Martin. But you're underselling Fyfe. I've seen him slot it from the boundary on both sides.He is a good enough kick, Martin is a powerful kick, who occasionally hits a clanger. If Martin gets the ball anywhere near the 50m line from any angle he's a good chance of kicking it.
Although we've now effectively had a page of comment about Dusty's biggest weapon (his kicking) as a means to knock Fyfe - who I would rate as a better than average kick, but it is probably his least capable attribute. Maybe we now do a page on how they compare against each other in marking or ground ball gets??The gap between Martin's kicking and most of the comp is pretty big. That's not a knock on Fyfe.
Some have knocked Fyfe's kicking, not me. A fair bit already about marking and ground ball gets, mostly leaning towards Fyfe. Hence some are in the Fyfe camp, some in the Martin. But right now I agree, they are the best 2 in the comp, and if they keep going for a few more years at that level, they will be talked of as some of the best players of the modern era.Although we've now effectively had a page of comment about Dusty's biggest weapon (his kicking) as a means to knock Fyfe - who I would rate as a better than average kick, but it is probably his least capable attribute. Maybe we now do a page on how they compare against each other in marking or ground ball gets??
Or alternatively we just accept that with the ageing of GAblett we are trying to debate who is the better of the two players who in time will be regarded as genuine greats of the game. Many good to decent players have scored one Brownlow or one Norm Smith - but 2 x Brownlows or 2 x Norm Smiths puts the recipient in the highest echelons of the game - not just amongst the best players of a decade, but the best players of all time.
Seems a little less damaging than he used to be. Lost a yard probably, because that explosiveness whilst no means gone is not quite what is was. One would think that it will continue to wane (pace), a bit like it did with Judd, who are probably the most explosive players ever. He like Martin goes forward more and is very dangerous. Right now they sit together, a year older maybe not, time will tell.I'll just say this - I think Fyfe and Martin are the top 2 in the game (I choose - aaah, I'll think about it some more).
However, I think that Dangerfield's skillset sometimes lets him dominate an individual game to the highest level of all of them.
In other words - Fyfe is the most consistent, Martin more the brilliant match-winner, Danger capable of complete games that make you go 'wow'. Ok - maybe he does those games against GC, and never in finals etc - but when he's on, he's really on.
Mind you that is only because of the way each team uses them. Fyfe is more relied in Freo's midfield so doesn't play as much up forward. When Dusty plays mid he doesn't run into defence. A lot of the time who ever plays on Dusty follows the ball and leaves Dusty standing on his own forward of centre. That wasn't the case around 2015, 2016 when he played more as a normal mid and did get alot of the ball in the back line.Fyfe is a better midfielder and defender.
Dusty is a better forward and therefore more damaging IMO.
Hard to split but I think Dusty's big stage efforts take the cake.
That's because Martin has not a single defensive side to the modern game to speak of. He often let's his opponents do as they like.leaves Dusty standing on his own forward of centre.