News National Trust tackles Richmond on grandstand demolition

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No, I'm saying incorporate some small amount of grass or trees instead of a concrete jungle that could be anywhere in the world.
100,000 seat stadium in the middle of parkland .... How many of those are there in the world?

Not only that, one within a walk of one of the world's best tennis complexes, another oval, elite(soon to be eliter) training facilities and a stone's throw from a river and the central station of CBD.

Also I am 100% behind ideas like urban farming, urban greenspace, regenerative agriculture and reforesting.

But a token tree in a stadium that takes away its functionality as a stadium is actually worse for the environment.

We are very privileged to have an incredible sports complex AND abundance of parklands in the same precinct. There is already a meshing of the natural and man made landscape at play there. By incorporating the stadium into the parklands you achieve this.
 

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I love the concept that we honour jack dyer with a stand in his name but i also think its time for progress. We need to build a stand in dustys name.
How i would love my son in future years sitting in the dustin martin stand telling his kids the joy he had of watching the greatest footballer ever. How many of is can sit in the jack dyer stand and talk to our kids about jack dyer?
If we want to hold on to history why isnt every supporter out there standing in arms and demanding all grounds be opened up for a kick to kick after the game.
The stand is in a very sub standard state and if its seriously stands in the way of us moving foward as a club, being and elite organisation and winnig premierships then we seriously need to consider whats more important - history or the future.
Ill take the future and more premierships any day of the week without battering and eye lid.
 

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'and replacing it with something that, among other things, is easier to put corporate boxes in'
You're fighting for the money hungry corporates, I'm interested in preserving history.
A clear good side/ bad side issue .
The MCG proportions are a smokescreen from the corporates.
Replacing it with something that is legally allowed to have fans in is probably more accurate.
 

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'and replacing it with something that, among other things, is easier to put corporate boxes in'
You're fighting for the money hungry corporates, I'm interested in preserving history.
A clear good side/ bad side issue .
The MCG proportions are a smokescreen from the corporates.
okay, think about it

corporate boxes for the VFL and AFLW? Really???

Having people able to view from something akin to the social club isnt creating corporate boxes for an elite. FFS why would the elite spend money to watch a shitty game at a small shitty oval, when the MCG is literally metres away?
 

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Im sure they can make it useable safety wise if they wanted to.
Given its condemned, they would have to dismantle it, tagging every piece as they do. Then re-engineer around what they can use again, what they are going to have to replace. And then rebuild.

Again, for the five hundredth time, the club costed this option AND the idea of relocating the stand to another suburban oval. It was too cost prohibitive
 

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Saying we need to demolish the JDS or move is just an ambit claim.
It's not just Richmond's history it's Melbourne's history.
Millions of people in Melbourne are familiar with the stand as it is in a prominent position.
If removed , Punt Rd oval would look crap and homogeneous .
LoL@Millions of people.
A million people wouldn't know who Jack Dyer is outside the football world.
And of those within the football world outside of the RFC wouldn't give 2 hoots if the stayed or not.
 
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There is no black and white to any issue. It's about compromise and maximising potential gains across all fields (business, cultural, history, etc).

There's pros and cons to each side of that and inbetweens.

While crikey has some great journalism, that piece offers nothing really, except an appeal to those that are already upset about it. There's no real fact or data or useful information in there even on the argument against demolition. Bit of a fluff piece, full of emotion, which is great and certainly part of the discussion. But you have to weigh up all the factors.
'and replacing it with something that, among other things, is easier to put corporate boxes in'
You're fighting for the money hungry corporates, I'm interested in preserving history.
A clear good side/ bad side issue .
The MCG proportions are a smokescreen from the corporates.
 

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It's embarrassing the club is doing this.


'and replacing it with something that, among other things, is easier to put corporate boxes in'
You're fighting for the money hungry corporates, I'm interested in preserving history.
A clear good side/ bad side issue .
The MCG proportions are a smokescreen from the corporates.

It’s embarrassing that you and the imbecile who wrote the article think it’s being built to house corporate boxes.

Conveniently leaving out the fact it’s being built for women’s teams, indigenous education institute and Bachar Houli Islamic academy.

******* corporate boxes, fair dinkum. πŸ™„
 
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Again, putting a practical piece of architecture in a glass box as a souvenir goes against the tradition of the architecture. It's in the good name of the architects who built it to use the structure or the space.

I'm sure the national trust would be open to bankrolling a move for it to one of their favour Victorian mansion grounds and paying for the conservation of it themselves. They could even open it to weddings etc and make a mint using it as a venue. Then they could keep bankrolling it. And everyone would be happy. A good solution no?
Wow, I can't wait for the new Jeep corporate boxes they will be much better than 100 years of Melbourne history.
 

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There is no black and white to any issue. It's about compromise and maximising potential gains across all fields (business, cultural, history, etc).

There's pros and cons to each side of that and inbetweens.

While crikey has some great journalism, that piece offers nothing really, except an appeal to those that are already upset about it. There's no real fact or data or useful information in there even on the argument against demolition. Bit of a fluff piece, full of emotion, which is great and certainly part of the discussion. But you have to weigh up all the factors.
What a pathetic, deceptive article it is.

Totally omits the reason why it’s getting built and makes out it’s being built for corporate boxes.
 
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What a pathetic, deceptive article it is.

Totally omits the reason why it’s getting built and makes out it’s being built for corporate boxes.
It's quite an old article, I'm not sure how much of the planning had been released at that stage so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in that regard
 
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If they wanted to build apartments or something that didn't build on the club in a community and/or football sense than you'd have a lot more people defending the stand. But the reality is that compromises have to be made for progress and evolution.
 

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