News National Trust tackles Richmond on grandstand demolition

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What a pathetic, deceptive article it is.

Totally omits the reason why it’s getting built and makes out it’s being built for corporate boxes.
Facts are facts. It is driven by corporates wanting their brand on everything that is available, meanwhile history is flushed down the toilet.
 

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We'll they should have kept that but it was replaced by media and corporate boxes to make$$$$$$$$$$$$.
So your against the new mcc stand being able to increase its capacity by 19% over the old stand?
Bit similar i would say what the removal of the JD stand would provide for fellow tiger supporters to watch our reserves?
 

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For our club to keep ahead of the game it is important unless you enjoyed 37yrs of not keeping up with the game.
We won 3 flags with the JD stand still there.
You don't have to destroy your history to get ahead, in the end that will work against you.
Preserve our history or we become another same same franchise.
I know Peggy has no interest in Australian history but Benny should.
 

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So your against the new mcc stand being able to increase its capacity by 19% over the old stand?
Bit similar i would say what the removal of the JD stand would provide for fellow tiger supporters to watch our reserves?
Capacity for corporate boxes and media.
The MCG is only full 3 times a year if that.
It is usually half empty.
 
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We won 3 flags with the JD stand still there.
You don't have to destroy your history to get ahead, in the end that will work against you.
Preserve our history or we become another same same franchise.
I know Peggy has no interest in Australian history but Benny should.
Somehow I feel like Peggy, the woman who became entrenched in the local sports club of the suburb she moved to, becoming it's president, may have a little bit of passion for the history and culture of the club and at the very least, Richmond. Probably not that far behind the BG considering that he's a Tasmanian and at my estimates lived outside of Victoria for almost as long as Peggy .

I'm every bit against evil corporations and their $$ interests but this is not exactly that. The ramifications of upgrading our community and football facilities are certainly not a bad outcome when you consider the every day destruction of community, history and culture that occurs due to corporate greed.

It's a compromise being made to better the club and community interests.
 

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In what part of the G can you see any history?
All I see is concrete and digital advertising .
Concrete can't be historic it's been proven that concrete is actually just a imaginary material

Everything ever made of concrete is 100% not real and never existed ..... Zzz

Building material doesn't define history. Physical presence doesn't define history.
Man made constructs don't define history.

Spirit and culture are two things that can outlive any construction. They are the things we should be cultivating and watching over as custodians.

The best way to honour those that came before is to allow the continuation of their spirit and culture. Not fapping over a material object.

The redevelopment ticks the boxes in a number of areas...

- improves community access to sporting events and facilities
- improves football clubs elite training facilities
- improves the clubs ability to have a positive impact through community outreach programs
- maximises the productiveness of the land for it's intended purpose (as a sports ground and training facility with community assets)

It is sad to see a much loved and relatively old (in the minds of contemporary human beings) piece of architecture removed to pave the way for it. But the blokes who built the original stand would hardly be up in arms about it.

Every "old" building that we bemoan the loss of replaced something older that was there before it. Having a stand like that built in it's time would've been a huge boon for local clubs and community. Because of very similar reasons to above.

Perhaps there was some resistance to building it at the time due to the acknowledgement of losing what was there before. But they made a compromise and it all worked out pretty well. Until that buildings state became condemned and it no longer served the purpose it was built for. Much like the parkland failed to house enough facilities and fans at the time the JDS was built.
 

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In what part of the G can you see any history?
All I see is concrete and digital advertising .
It's the feel of 100,000 people together. I was there when it held over 100,000 too. I remember that feeling. Olympics were held there although I didn't experience that event.
I could go to the MCG museum to see any other history. Maybe the new JDS can have a museum of Richmond history?
 

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If we do have to go down path of option B as in preserving stand there is still plenty of room for further structures behind goals and around the scoreboard area , get clever and anything is possible
Have a look at a map. You can't just close your eyes and wish for there to be space that doesn't exist.
 
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Because it's easier to have a whinge now than bankroll heritage maintenance for a half century

And because people hate having things taken away from them even if it's something they never cared for or invested in while it was there
So why did the national trust not give a sh*t until now if it is so special?
 
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Problem is that requires a buttload of money and a buttload of lobbying to change policy. There's a lot of red tape going that way, not just the actual preserving of the stand itself, but utilising the space that is there currently.
If we do have to go down path of option B as in preserving stand there is still plenty of room for further structures behind goals and around the scoreboard area , get clever and anything is possible
 

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