News National Trust tackles Richmond on grandstand demolition

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The national trust is just an organisation that represents the views and values of a select portion of society. It's not a concrete moral code for living life. There are plenty of things more significant than a man made building that "exist" at punt road. Depends on your world view and values.

If the project has the backing of club/board/members and government why would the national trusts world view hold more value?
 

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The national trust is just an organisation that represents the views and values of a select portion of society. It's not a concrete moral code for living life. There are plenty of things more significant than a man made building that "exist" at punt road. Depends on your world view and values.

If the project has the backing of club/board/members and government why would the national trusts world view hold more value?
It's not a 'select portion of society', it is the whole of society and future generations.
Why is it lesser if it's a man made building?
 

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Because all sorts of organisations act in their own interests that may not serve the interests of the the broader community?
Exactly my point. Why is the national trust valued higher than 5 other parts of society? They're not a saintly collective beamed from the almighty heaven (cause there's only one right?), They're just another organisations with their own interests.
It's not a 'select portion of society', it is the whole of society and future generations.
Why is it lesser if it's a man made building?
It's not less, it's just different. Not all members of society value the same things. If the national trust was the night and day answer to a good future why is it not the most powerful organisation in the country?

Here's one way it might work out better.... There is a precedent in this thread of looking at art and photos of current/past structures and discussing their beauty, what they stood for and why they're important. Why not preserve the history in these methods and incorporate it into written and oral records, rather than present a run down unusable and impractical grandstand to the future generations?
 

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The national trust wants everything retained, however, never wants to contribute to the cost of maintaining it. Where have the national trust been for the last 55 years whilst the stand fell into total disrepair?
my fav was when they tried to stop an architecturally significant CAR PARK from being demo'ed. I used to park in there, and the thing was a danger to any car larger than a hatchback (winding ramps that were tighter than Brett Deledio)
 

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I have sat in that stand on over 100 occasions , Used to to training after school and would walk up and sit there in the 70's

It was creaking even back then and was never a safe building. The rails on the stairs and on the front level would shake when leaned upon


Not to mention the roof leaking in 100 spots
It got repaired in the 90s, there was a major funding initiative. In the mid 90s you were allowed back in to watch ressies games from the stand. In fact I think it's where the whole jdf was initiated. I remember putting money towards it.
 

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"Don't it always seem to go,
that you don't know what you've got
til it's gone..."

Joni Mitchell - 1970
Yeah, like, just imagine in 20 years time, ruing the missed opportunities at developing the Club’s facilities and by that fact, compromising the success that could have otherwise been achieved.
 

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Yeah, like, just imagine in 20 years time, ruing the missed opportunities at developing the Club’s facilities and by that fact, compromising the success that could have otherwise been achieved.
Amazing how we won 3 years in 4 years with that stand isnt it. Really held us back.
 

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Well better informed people than you and me, and the National Trust disagree.
The National Trust exist to worry about stuff that no-one else does... they aren't better informed at all. They are just a bunch of people justifying their own existence. They are the HR department of buildings but in reverse. They don't sack anyone.... but do get in the way of progress. Maybe we should save every building that was ever opened by a PM. Crikey. Has precious little to do with Jack Dyer either, given his name was given to it after it was built. His son when asked about was more worried about the statue than the stand, although was happy that the new stand would also bear Dyer's name. If it's good enough for his son, then it should be good enough for the rest of us. 111m in assets for National Trust... they are doing alright. Focus on the housing facdes, not delapidated grand stands (that have been modified anyway - where was the hoo ha, back then?).
 

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