NBN - Good or Bad

Ron The Bear

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I had an issue when connecting over to NBN with iiNet and they weren't bad at all with getting it sorted. Maybe just lucky.
My experience with iiNet (some years ago now) was that their support was very good, but it was incorporated into the price. They introduced a new range of plans and didn't have one that suited me, so I jumped ship.
 

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Found out the other day after the NBN website update that instead of getting HFC like the website told me this whole time, we are instead now getting the inferior FTTN. Considering how slow our ADSL2 is (we're a few kilometres from the exchange, and also assuming our copper is shit) I dont think our speeds will increase that much if at all. Really disappointing because my mate just had his HFC installed (he lives in the suburb next to me) and gets 50 down, as per his plan. Fcuking pissed off to be honest. What a balls up.
Be happy mate, hfc is an inferior tech to even copper for the purpose of the internet. The only reason nbnco bought the hfc network in the first place is because abbot is a moron with no knowledge of the tech. The reason you aren't getting hfc anymore is because after buying the network they realised it was under maintained and just generally bad tech so dumped it.
 
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IIRC (correct me if I'm wrong), the issues with HFC is that when the load usage is high, the coaxial modulation of signals slows down drastically causing a bottleneck whilst the fibre component continues to transmit signals with little problems. However, since both signals have to be sending data with little delay, the fibre connection waits for the coaxial to catch up causing a monstrous spike in latency connection, and a disastrous drop in transfer speeds. And this is entirely dependent on distance, the frequency the node/receiver can operate and your modem. Which is why so many residents had issues with the NBN HFC AND FTTN in peak usage times. The coaxial is still there! Distributing to all your neighbours! Can you imagine the lag spikes!? The only difference with FTTN is it has separate cables going to all households in your neighbourhood.

The node that coverts the light signals to RF through to coaxial is the main reason why HFC can be a problem. Even though it is plainly better than just cable/DSL/ADSL connection, it still has the bottleneck at the front end where your signals reach your home. Why not just go all fibre to the home with fibre connection becoming more and more readily available? Oh right, Foxtel still exists...

Even worse, the longer the coaxial cable has to transmit data (on FTTN), the slower the data transfer will be. Packet loss can sometimes be so bad that uploading a small video onto your google drive could be a challenge in peak usage periods.

We have one of the most advanced wireless networks in the world yet we are so behind in broadband. It is so bad that I just turn on my 4G and watch in awe as a file gets uploaded in seconds. Broadband connection would take over 10 minutes.

I can only dream just how much better this country's broadband network can be if it followed the FTTP plan. Ever since the change to FTTN and lack of regulation of maintenance costs, it has cost the government more than what the predicted FTTP cost. FTTN still relies on very old copper networks but apparently improves upload speeds to 40Mbits. Which I find very questionable with coaxial still being the dedicated distributor to separate households.

There was even a survey into asking people from overseas about our NBN network, and they laughed at us with their 100+Mbits/200+Mbits per second consistent speeds.
 
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I'm with Optus. I recommend them along with iinet as they are cheap and are fair.
I've had bad experiences with telstra hence why i will avoid them.
Depending upon who you are with currently if you love the ISP stick with them. If you hate them ditch them.
 
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That is Good Advice
Thanks.
Remember it could be a billing reason to a techical reason.
For example if you get a lot of drop outs you might want to change to some other ISP because of the dropouts.
I ditched Telstra because they were too much of a rip off. Even with my mobile i'd normally go with telstra. Until one day telstra decided to bill me and they weren't to pleasant about it.
They ripped me off.
So i ditched them and went with optus.
 

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I'm with Optus. I recommend them along with iinet as they are cheap and are fair.
I've had bad experiences with telstra hence why i will avoid them.
Depending upon who you are with currently if you love the ISP stick with them. If you hate them ditch them.
The problem with iiNet is that they are now part of TPG, and their customer service has been rapidly dropping to meet the standards TPG set. Almost there.
So., I'm desparately hoping when I move everything goes alright and I don't have to deal with them over the phone.
 
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