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NEAFL - Eastern Conference 2012

Discussion in 'NEAFL Board' started by A Bit High, Feb 5, 2012.

Put it out there
  1. Schlurp

    Schlurp All Australian

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    Probably not just Sydney JAB but I take your point. I suspect that key disqualifiers to players from smaller centres like the ACT being drafted are related more to the intensity and quality of their local competitions than just where they live. Another factor would be players exposure to the principal AFL clubs, something that Canberra players have not had to any significant extent until the recent emergence of the GWS Giants Academy. I suspect that had, say, Liam Flaherty come through St Xaviers rather than Marist, he might now be training in a tall forward role with any of half a dozen AFL Clubs. That said, I think the investment of clubs such as Queanbeyan, Eastlake, Belconnen and Ainslie in junior development and player retention coupled with what promises to be a long term relationship between ACT football and the GWS Giants should see this drought broken fairly soon.
     
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  2. one 4 the road

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    Absolutely correct there Just. Goes back to the Scholarship days, apparently the ACT is a very well resourced and a major AFL area that doesn't need any development or help. So its Sydney and North that has to be supported.
    Just another example of the farce.
     
  3. one 4 the road

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    Absolutely correct there Just. Goes back to the Scholarship days, apparently the ACT is a very well resourced and a major AFL area that doesn't need any development or help. So its Sydney and North that has to be supported.
    Just another example of the farce.
     
  4. befooty

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    Is Tippett eligible to play NEAFL or Sydney AFL
     
  5. Scully2Folau

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    Tippett won't be eligible to play at any level for the pre-season games and first 11 games of the AFL season.
     
  6. justabaraker

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    One good point, Schlurp, and one shocker.
    If you saw the intensity and quality of Sydney football (or lack thereof), then you wouldn't say that ACT is at a disadvantage. I'd back ACT footy vs Sydney footy any day. And I think most Canberra/Qbn followers would agree.
    But I like your other point - Canberra players hadn't had the exposure to principal AFL clubs up until the
    GWS Academy emerged. Obviously there are some keen talent scouts combing the oval paddocks of south western NSW now, and some handy coaches to get the skill sets up.
    Joe Redfern got through the net when there really wasn't a net, but things should get better now.
     
  7. Scully2Folau

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    To be fair though, Joe Redfern only made his way up to Sydney because he was a part of the GWS Academy and I think had played for GWS as far back as having a run with the TAC Cup side in 2010 as a 16 year old. The Giants have had their eye on him for some time.
     
  8. justabaraker

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    Point taken.
    We hope that others from SW NSW will now find the doors opening for them too.
     
  9. Scully2Folau

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    GWS are definitely opening a bit of a pathway there, Williams (Narrandera) and Redfern (Wagga) the latest additions along with Townsend (Leeton), Aylett (Leeton), Whiley (Finley), Schulz (Culcairn) and Miles (Howlong) who came as pre-listed/zoned players. Then there's Bruce out of the ACT and we of course await the Sydney talent.
     
  10. Schlurp

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    I don't know that much about Sydney football JAB but I have no problems accepting your point. Re-reading what I wrote, I can see that it appears that I was directly comparing the standard of footy between Sydney and the ACT. What I meant to say, and I didn't make this clear, is that the ACT, like Sydney, will only be seen by AFL recruiters as a second tier competition to those of the bigger AFL centres like Melbourne, Adelaide etc. A talented ACT junior may gain selection in an ACT representative side but will then find himself competing in nationals championships only in the tier two pool. It just seems harder to catch a recruiter's attention under these circumstances when their focus will be on the best of the tier one players.
     
  11. the swingman

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    The U18 championships concept has changed over the years. States are still divided into div 1 and div 2. that will never change. but for 2 of the 5 rounds states play cross division games giving the chance for the lesser states to play the better ones. NSW/ACT this year played vic country and WA. WA pumped NSW/act and vic metro rested something like 7-10 of their ais players and still beat act/nsw.

    Regardless, every AFL club would have scouts at every nsw/act game whether it be trial game or a state championship game, whether they play tasmania or vic metro.

    If a player is good enough he will catch the eye of a recruiter. Generally the reason players dont catch the attention of recruiters is because he not good enough.
     

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  12. Schlurp

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    I hadn't realised that Swingman. Thanks for the clarification.
     
  13. justabaraker

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    SUANFC appoints Tom Ayton to High Performance Role

    I'm sure this guy is a fine person and will do a fine job as specialist coach. But the press release has the same wierd tone that announced D Gilmore as head coach - no mention of "team" or "winning matches", or "playing finals" or "premierships", or "building the supporter base" or "attracting sponsors".

    Is it unreasonable that these things be among the aims of the coaching group ? SU is all about "developing", and sports science, and exercise physiology. These people are academics and they presumably know what they're doing. But, tell you what, if I was going to turn up on Saturday to follow them, then I'd be wanting to know that the TEAM is trying its guts out to WIN.
     
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  14. thejumboprince

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    Have to agree. Some good young guys in place but sounding and looking like at the C'tee level they are a bit rudderless just at the moment. Development is the "model" and thats the stuff the AFL wants to hear but what about the key footy club stuff as you say - bit sad to see a traditional footy club like them rolling out that type of soulless crap. They'll improve again this year but much slower than they should.
     
  15. footy_tragic222

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    how's everyone going at their respective trainings? recruits arrived? who's looking red hot? apparently James Bennett has arrived and is looking the goods (as you'd expect). brabas hammy has healed and his fitness levels are good.
     
  16. AFC2

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    have you been in Sydney to see Brabba? im sure his hammy is fine down on bondi beach with a bit of zinc on his nose watching the waves roll in.
    I saw the Eastlake guys doing some running on Hughes Oval and Brabba was no where to be seen.
     
  17. footy_tragic222

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    no i havnt felt his hammy personally but just been told by some elake boys. they seemed to think it was good news considering he couldn't do much running at all during last pre season. so they are expecting him to have twice the year he did in season 2012 now that he is really fit. just trying to get some talk going
     
  18. A Bit High

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    Don't worry to much footy_tragic222 as you won't get much in the way of positive constructive posting from AFC2.

    Seems only intent on derailing posts without offering much insight himself.
     
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    Merry Xmas to most on here, play hard but pay safe and enjoy time with loved ones.
     
  20. justabaraker

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    Still waiting for our illustrious leader, ABH, to catapult us into the New Year with a new thread. But, oh well, looks like we have to stick with this one until Canberra catches up that it's now 2013 !:D:)

    A happy New Year to you all and may we all stay civil and encouraging to each other, and operate this forum in a cheerful and informative tone.

    Sydney Uni continues with this management-speak stuff with their two new appointments....Tom M and, wait for it, Tom M. One from WA and the other from, guess where, WA. One a mate of the new High Performance Manager and the other, a mate of the High Performance Manager.
    It's easy to think that there's been a double-up of one announcement, been a double-up of the one announcement.

    And it's easy to think that this new announcement (or both) is a double-up of the earlier one about the HP Manager.... still 'excellence', 'player opportunities', 'development' , 'development' and 'development', and all that mumbo jumbo stuff about 'pathways' that we are all getting over a bit I think.
    This club will win the "2013 JARGON AWARD" without a serious challenger I reckon.

    Still reckon that, if I was going to turn up to see them play on Saturday afternoon, that I'd like to know that they are trying to win a footy game.

    Is that too much to ask ?
     
  21. Michael Goiser

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    Hey justabaraker, 2013 Eastern conference thread started a while ago. You are welcome to come on over. I even posted something specifically directed to you back on 29 Dec. Figured you must have been on holidays as I've not heard back.
    Cheers,
    Gois
     
  22. justabaraker

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    Oops - thanks for the heads-up Gois.

    Nothing to report re Scott Didier sorry - you'll have to buy a ticket and see the movie !!