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The Donners said:
He has failed to get anywhere near a reasonable fitness base in 4-5 years at the club. On top of this he has a turning circle of a mac truck and lacks versatility and thus couldn't possibly play anywhere but full forward.

He has a great mark and a pretty good kick but at what stage do you cut your losses? Another interrupted pre-season in what should've been his make or break year, another excuse to extend his contract in my opinion.
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stay true said:
2 of the teams 9 goals is pretty decent.
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Considering we couldn't have fielded a worse side than the one we fielded tonight, I'll take it as note-worthy.

With that said, I still value his fitness more-so than the goals. Hopefully it provides a tonic for him to improve, good to know he's trying to earn his selection.
 

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I was at the game last night. First half looked pretty dysfunctional and really low intensity(the entire team). However in the second half we started to look quite good. Neagle presented very well and provided a mobile option. Laycock looked good as well as a lead up forward. Definitely the second half gave a glimpse of what we can build on for the year.
 
waldo said:
I was at the game last night. First half looked pretty dysfunctional and really low intensity(the entire team). However in the second half we started to look quite good. Neagle presented very well and provided a mobile option. Laycock looked good as well as a lead up forward. Definitely the second half gave a glimpse of what we can build on for the year.
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How did the forward line set up? I assume Neagle was in the square, but where were Gumby and Laycock?
 
I Don't really see what all the fuss is about.

He's turned 22 this year so is still very young as a key forwards go.
He's had a terrible run with injuries so has struggled to have a sustained crack at it.
He's had 2 guys ahead of him that would have kept most 19 - 20 year olds out of a spot regardless of their form.
He's shown that when he gets a good run at it he can be an extremely good forward target.
His goal kicking is far better than just good. Is extremely good. In fact i'd have him in the top handful of FF's that i'd like kicking for me.
Has a brilliant set up hands.
He's also been playing in a pretty ordinary team. If he can start to get some consistent supply, I wouldn't be suprised if he has a couple of 7 goal plus games this year.

Ask Lloyd about how the ball came down over his last 3 or 4 years and he'd shake his head.
 
Neagle looked best when inside the 50. If he kicked straight then his stats would have been fantastic. Kicked a great goal from free play with kennelly right on his hammer - snap from the pocket.

Laycock played out of the square when Neagle was having a rest. He too looked really good - took some goods marks and showed that we have options up forward.

Gumbleton played the high forward roll and provided ok mobility. Took quite a few marks.

Zarharkis played the small forward and kicked some nice goals in the last quarter. Similar to the monfries rule.

Considering I would think only Neagle would be selected as a starting forward with Gumbleton a possibility we really saw some options that could be quite damaging. Also the Swans defence was close to full strength. Overall very positive and I think Neagle is looking good for a improvement this year.
 
The goal he kicked on kennelly was all about second efforts. The ball went to ground and the effort he made turned it from a 50/50 into a great goal.

I guess long leads could be worked on however not everyone is Reiwoldt. Very few players can lead up the ground over 60 meters then run back into the 50 for multiple leads. The leads he made were great for a full-forward and also a mobile option across the 50m arc.

Personally I don't think he is going to be a Reiwoldt or Franklin as they are genuine CHF. For me if he kicks goals then that is his job, the days of the FF are far from gone. I am sure with reasonable service we can expect a 30+ goal season. Which for me is a step in the correct direction. At his age I can only see positives.
 
Lance Uppercut said:
this guy could have a Barry Hall like presence on a footy field one day, he is worth persisting with
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hes a better kick for goal though!! my top 3 best goal kickers ive seen are Lloyd (maybe indoors helped him, but crikeys 99-01 they shouldnt have even bothered letting him take a set shot and got the ball back to the centre, lockett and fev to follow)

Hoping Big J can be 4th
 
There is something no one can accuse Jay of not having, and that's talent + footy smarts.

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Watching Neagle and Gumby in the same forward line makes me drool, hopefully we can see it more during the season proper as they both get a top on fitness.

Speaking of Gumby, his presence is very assuring, can't wait to see him bulk up and really stick it to them in a couple of years. :thumbsu:
 

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I saw him play in one of his first (if not the first?) game for us at Subi. I left that game thinking we've got our next Lloyd. He has a great set of hands and his kicking is quite astonishing tbh. Beautiful. Ever since then I've just been hoping he can get on the park consistently. The weight gain was an added worry going forward but he's looking pretty fit now really.

Interesting side story. My uncle in law was on the same plane coming back from Melbourne as the team when they were on their way here to play that game at Subi. Knowing I was a Bombers man, he grabbed the back page of the paper (had a story about the game and Jay in particular) and got his autograph on it for me. He said he was quite shocked when he asked him as everyone else was going for the big names. :D

He got a couple of other scrawls as well.. I think one may have been McPhee.. :(
 
Slattery_20 said:
How hard did he work? Tackling, pressure, 2nd efforts, long leads???

Talent is not, and never will be, the issue with Neagle.
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Long leads .... Tick.
Tackling and defensive pressure not great but I don't want the best tackler for a full forward. I want the best goal kicker
2nd efforts are there. Will get better with experience.

Again, not easy to run around like Judd when you're a completely different player, have a broken foot and have barely turned 21.
 
Worth mentioning Jobe Watson in this thread.

Very similar in that he had problems with conditioning early on. In fact, injuries aside i'd say that Watson was worse prepared for league footy at a similar age than what Neagle was.

It was about this time in his career that Watson really knuckled down with the benefit of a few years experience behind him and probably a number of reality checks.

This doesn't mean that Neagle's going to get there.

I personally think he's one of the better key forward talents under 23 years of age and if he gets a sustained crack injury free in a side that can get him the ball, he'll be a more than adequate premiership full forward.
 
TheDon35 said:
Worth mentioning Jobe Watson in this thread.

Very similar in that he had problems with conditioning early on. In fact, injuries aside i'd say that Watson was worse prepared for league footy at a similar age than what Neagle was.

It was about this time in his career that Watson really knuckled down with the benefit of a few years experience behind him and probably a number of reality checks.

This doesn't mean that Neagle's going to get there.

I personally think he's one of the better key forward talents under 23 years of age and if he gets a sustained crack injury free in a side that can get him the ball, he'll be a more than adequate premiership full forward.
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Jobe had a huge pre-season in 06' and lost a lot of weight.

Hopefully Jay has a similar epiphany and knuckles down.
 
Showed a bit today. Would have really liked to have seen Gumby working down there as well.
 

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Reasonable happy. Although he didn't present enough IMO. I remember someone marking the ball just outside 50 on one flank. Neagle was leading as if the ball was on the other flank, well not leading, jogging.
 
Which begs the question, where do we put Hurley when Fletcher and Pears come back?

Let him roam on the forward 50 arc with Gumby at CHF and Neagle at FF?

Or switch him back to front? I have a feeling it's starting to tire out the poor guy. Still plays well on both sides of the ground regardless. Mold him into a Goddard-type player perhaps?

If Neagle keeps this up until Pears and Fletch are both on the ground, this is the sort of problem will be having. A good problem to have, anyway.
 

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