Opinion Neale v Bont v Pendlebury v Cripps

[Chronz]

Dirtymop fred. He secretly loves Pendles even more than his false god, the one they call 'Dusty'.

1. Pendles
2. Neale
3. Bont
4. Cripps

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Bont
Cripps
Neale
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Pendles

 

[Fadge]

Got to acknowledge the recency bias in this poll and thread discussion....

Cripps has just won his second Brownlow in three years
Bont has just won his second consecutive AFLPA MVP
Neale has just won the Gary Ayres Award after winning last year's Brownlow

Meanwhile, Pendles is 36, and still getting his fair share of love.

 

[Lunchtime]

As I said, consistently very good for a very long time. Ceiling lower than those other blokes
Youre not changing my mind on this

Yep. Pendles is a very good player but his impact isn't as high as other players.

 

[Lunchtime]

In other words....

'I've got no case...'

What's the problem? Don't like it when someone else has a different opinion to you? You do realise that not everyone sings from the same songsheet as you and God help us if anyone dare not have a Collingwood player up the pecking order when they are ranked/assessed.

It's not surprising that a lot on here think you have a bad feel for the game and also poor at assessing ranking players.

 

[Lunchtime]

Of course you have.

It hard to accept you've been proven (very) wrong....

Or it's a case of someone having a different opinion, which is something you consistently have a problem with. It's a reflection on you as a person that you're really not that good to debate with.

 

[PhatBoy]

Pendlebury was, along with Swan and to some extent Travis Cloke, the driving force of a team who went 34-4 and 3 of those losses were to one side, and he did it averaging 30 touches and just under a goal, the sort of output that only Bontempelli has ever beaten goal-wise (never disposal wise).

Neale and Cripps have never been able to maintain it for more than a season and the other major areas like contested possessions etc are all marginal.

Claims like ‘Pendlebury didn’t ever have a high enough peak’ are revisionist.

 

[Lunchtime]

Pendlebury was, along with Swan and to some extent Travis Cloke, the driving force of a team who went 34-4 and 3 of those losses were to one side, and he did it averaging 30 touches and just under a goal, the sort of output that only Bontempelli has ever beaten goal-wise (never disposal wise).

Neale and Cripps have never been able to maintain it for more than a season and the other major areas like contested possessions etc are all marginal.

Claims like ‘Pendlebury didn’t ever have a high enough peak’ are revisionist.

The 2010 & 2011 seasons? He kicked 41 goals from 51 games and averaged 28 disposals per game. Not quite 30...but who cares.

 

[eaglespremiers]

1. Cripps
2. Pendlebury
3. Bontempelli
4. Neale

Although I expect Bontempelli to end his career in the 2nd position when it's all said and done.

 

[Del165198]

Cripps just played the greatest season in the history of the AFL by a mile, so he's ahead by some distance.

 

[Fadge]

Cripps just played the greatest season in the history of the AFL by a mile, so he's ahead by some distance.

And yet didn't win the AFLPA MVP or AFLCA Coaches Award, and had an average game in his team's Elimination Final when the game was over 10 minutes into the second quarter.

Go figure.

 

[Fadge]

What's the problem? Don't like it when someone else has a different opinion to you? You do realise that not everyone sings from the same songsheet as you and God help us if anyone dare not have a Collingwood player up the pecking order when they are ranked/assessed.

It's not surprising that a lot on here think you have a bad feel for the game and also poor at assessing ranking players.

Or it's a case of someone having a different opinion, which is something you consistently have a problem with. It's a reflection on you as a person that you're really not that good to debate with.

Nice rants.

Have you got it all off your chest now?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

And yet didn't win the AFLPA MVP or AFLCA Coaches Award, and had an average game in his team's Elimination Final when the game was over 10 minutes into the second quarter.

Go figure.

He had 31 & 1 with 16 CP lmao?

 

[Fadge]

Claims like ‘Pendlebury didn’t ever have a high enough peak’ are revisionist.

When posters state 'Pendlebury didn't have a high enough ceiling', they're rightly saying 'he was never considered the best player in the competition' - and they are right.

The problem with that is, Pendlebury had GAJ and Judd ahead of him during his peak years - the two best midfielders we've seen since the turn of the century.

Bont's been regarded as the best player in the game for the past few seasons, but I don't feel he's had a single season where he's performed as unequivocally the outright best player in the competition. Cripps hasn't done that either, and Neale has done it once, in 2020.

 

[Fadge]

He had 31 & 1 with 16 CP lmao?

How did he perform when the game was on the line?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

How did he perform when the game was on the line?

Given his most prolific quarter that game was his 1st quarter id say just fine Fudge.

But please, continue your trolling...

 

[nahnah]

1. pendles
2. neale
3. bont
4. cripps

Cripps isn’t a winner even with 2 Coleman medalists in his team

 

[Fadge]

Given his most prolific quarter that game was his 1st quarter id say just fine Fudge.

But please, continue your trolling...

And yet not a single coaches vote?

You continue to assess games from a stats sheet.

 

[nahnah]

There should be a Cripps v Priddis v Wines thread

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

You continue to assess games from a stats sheet.

While you assess games from the land of flying pigs and leprechauns

 

[Fadge]

There should be a Cripps v Priddis v Wines thread

Unfair on Cripps as Priddis and Wines have played in more winning finals.

 

[Fadge]

While you assess games from the land of flying pigs and leprechauns

So if Cripps was so good in the Elimination Final, why did neither coach rate him in their top 5 players on the ground?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

So if Cripps was so good in the Elimination Final, why did neither coach rate him in their top 5 players on the ground?

You're a smart man Fudge... I'm sure you can figure it out

 

[Fadge]

You're a smart man Fudge... I'm sure you can figure it out

No, you tell me.

Because you're debating the statement 'Cripps had an average game in the Elimination Final'.

For a player who polled 45 Brownlow votes, to not be rated in the best 5 players on the ground by either coach would surely have to be considered an 'average game', right.

Come on, use your words....

 

[TheUnicorn]

1. Bont
2. Neale/Cripps
3. Pendles