Needles

[Keyter]

With the AFL website recently reporting
"The new AFL Anti-Doping Code includes a no-needles policy, which means doctors may possess needles but can only inject players when it is necessary to treat a legitimate medical condition."

Does this mean the groundbreaking Orthokine therapy adopted by a few clubs, and which involves the injection of a players stored blood, will this now be scrapped?

AFL Management - anything to say to clarify for us punters before handing over our membership money?

Any other practises to be pulled up?

ESPN REPORTS: “Kobe Bryant is in Germany and will undergo the platelet-rich plasma treatment known as Orthokine on his right knee, a source confirmed to ESPNLosAngeles.com on Thursday.
Bryant underwent the same therapy on his right knee in Germany in 2011.

 

[Chief]

Bad knee is a legitimate medical condition?

 

[Gigantor]

are other clubs involved in the taking of the syringe activity?

 

[Goady138]

Not for vitamins.

 

[yaco55]

I for one would ban any type of needle activity.

And i would ban pain-killing injections.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

Not for vitamins.

Looks like there are other clubs out there that have partaken in the syringe activity for vitamins..... whad'ya know.

 

[Goady138]

Looks like there are other clubs out there that have partaken in the syringe activity for vitamins..... whad'ya know.

Gee Sheeds, you had better come forward and let big Dimmi know.
This is quite startling after you once blew the lid on a club sniffing a mixture of eucalyptus and smelling salts, not to mention the sticky grip for the players hands out of similarbags.
Hop to it you legend.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

Needles to say this is long overdue.

 

[Gigantor]

Needles to say this is long overdue.

its a sticking point going by SirIngs

 

[DesertRoo]

No more needle activity, I know this guys shocked to be sitting here

 

[Goady138]

No more needle activity, I know this guys shocked to be sitting here

I do hope this particular space pilot ends up in a good place, but some thing tells me he has found the Hangar of hell.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Stupid rule.

No need for a ban on needles - maybe a ban on who can administer them.

I think we can trust the doctors.

 

[Armchair Critic]

Stupid rule.

No need for a ban on needles - maybe a ban on who can administer them.

I think we can trust the doctors.

That is part of the problem , we are to naive when it comes to Dr's. How did Essendon get prescriptions for AOD in the first place ?

 

[jenny61_99]

Stupid rule.

No need for a ban on needles - maybe a ban on who can administer them.

I think we can trust the doctors.

Disagree. There are absolutely no need for needles unless it's a medical emergency. No need.

 

[Spongebob]

Stupid rule.

No need for a ban on needles - maybe a ban on who can administer them.

I think we can trust the doctors.

The ban means that only the doctors are allowed to do injections within the club and it's surrounds, including during games.

Orthokine, and a variety of WADA approved methods are not done in the clubs, but in specialized facilities.

 

[ablett]

Disagree. There are absolutely no need for needles unless it's a medical emergency. No need.

When will you get out of the 1800's?

What's wrong with injecting vitamins or a saline drip for hydration?

 

[jenny61_99]

When will you get out of the 1800's?

What's wrong with injecting vitamins or a saline drip for hydration?

Why can't you pop a pill and drink water FFS? Just because you can (inject) doesn't mean you should.

Looking at it from an anti-doping perspective, you eliminate to a great extent, the possibility of some unscrupulous sports scientist spiking your vitamin injection with an unapproved substance or worse.

 

[DesertRoo]

When will you get out of the 1800's?

What's wrong with injecting vitamins or a saline drip for hydration?

Might be better to drink orally for hydration, stupid concept i know. But anything over 50mls and you're fooked.

 

[ablett]

Why can't you pop a pill and drink water FFS? Just because you can (inject) doesn't mean you should.

Firstly pills aren't absorbed effectively n water doesn't contain electrolytes to replenish sweat loss.
Injecting vitamins bypasses the liver n goes straight into the bloodstream.

 

[jenny61_99]

Firstly pills aren't absorbed effectively n water doesn't contain electrolytes to replenish sweat loss.
Injecting vitamins bypasses the liver n goes straight into the bloodstream.

Indeed. But let's decide we can increase our vitamin intake and ensure uptake by the body by increasing our dietary intake of specific food groups (thus not requiring additional supplements). And then, let's ensure we drink electrolites with our water to ensure we replenish sweat loss. Works just as effective as IV saline solution - except of course if you are too ill to ingest these things (which is the only time they should be used).

As I edited in my post above, lets eliminate as many doping possibilities as we can. Removing injections from a club's bag of tricks means they need to think beyond a pharmacological solution. (Pardon the pun).

 

[Chameleon75]

I for one would ban any type of needle activity.

And i would ban pain-killing injections.

What about pain killing puffers?

The focus on the delivery method is more afl pr. It's the substance not the delivery method which is the real issue.

 

[Quinz]

You can't trust Needles.

 

[Chameleon75]

When will you get out of the 1800's?

What's wrong with injecting vitamins or a saline drip for hydration?

Needles and drips are already restricted.

 

[blackcat]

Needles and drips are already restricted.

Brisbane half time canula hydration 2003ish?

but we would never dope in Australia

 

[IggypopsTshirt]

Banned substances cannot be taken via any method other than injection? It's a typical uninformed knee jerk reaction that's more about adhering to a certain image rather than actually dealing with the issue. The average clueless punter would be up in arms over a seeing a player given a legitimate injection during he game but wouldn't blink twice as a player rubbed on some soothing clenbuterol while sitting on the bench.