Mystery Neil Armstrong wants you to remove the "protective layer of Truth" if you want to discover anything

[BustedWing]

what's with the 'tinfoil hat' meme? should be the 'tinfoil spacecraft' meme. that is, any manner of craft is safe from radiation should i cover it in tinfoil.

The timfoil is primarily to protect from thermal radiation.

 

[BustedWing]

you forgot the bit about cm86 fellating anyone who purports that man landed upon the surface of the moon based on the evidence that somebody (somewhere) can shoot a laser at the moon and it reflects back apparently.

You're slipping. If your goal here is to troll, you need to do better than a crappy "you suck dicks" joke. poor effort.

4/10.

 

[Duritz]

Plus....

just too much chatter / text / info being pushed into one's head why they did or did not go to the moon.
in the end one gets cluttered with doubts and maybes from all angles, a lot of stuff one just takes for granted because some "expert" told you so.
but just go and watch the "raw" footage again, with one's own eyes, and you can see yourself (one way or the other) things your own intelligent brain can observe that's probably never been mentioned before.

for instance....i was watching aldrin climb down the stairs, and armstrong is telling him ok that's far enough, now jump, so he jumps and goes down about four feet. Then he does a little push off from the ground and the anti-g factor, he springs up four feet back to the last rung on the ladder. Never seen anyone ever mention that before -- as a nay or yay.

Anyway, there's a whole bunch of little stuff one can pick up from the viewing itself. Plus, it's a must-watch anyway. A world event worth downloading and keeping on your pc for posterity.....regardless whether it happened or not

True, however the reason no one (ie nasa) have never used the ample evidence of the landing to disprove the morons is because they DON'T HAVE TO. They know they went, hundreds of thousands of people were involved in it, they don't need to disprove a select group of idiots.

Here's another piece of objective proof people usually never refer to, and it's Australian: the Parkes dish. Due to the time zones there was many hours overnight US time when the astronauts couldn't be tracked. So, the Parkes dish was responsible for tracking them and relaying the data to NASA. This happened, they even made a s**t movie about it.

If you're going to fake a moon landing in Hollywood in a studio, do you really think four nerdy blokes in Parkes are just going to pretend it happened too?

 

[BustedWing]

If you're going to fake a moon landing in Hollywood in a studio, do you really think four nerdy blokes in Parkes are just going to pretend it happened too?

Ha but dont you see, they were in on it too! They must have been paid off.

 

[Duritz]

you forgot the bit about cm86 fellating anyone who purports that man landed upon the surface of the moon based on the evidence that somebody (somewhere) can shoot a laser at the moon and it reflects back apparently.

Mate, I'm pretty objective all told. I'm up for listening to a conspiracy theory but I then evaluate it using reason. Some of them are absolutely legit. However, this one is not, and you have been handed ample evidence of that by bustedwing, yet you ignore it and post bullshit. You look like a fool as a result.

 

[BustedWing]

Wouldn't call it a retraction as such. More like my usual constant swinging between belief and disbelef.

When you first say "I'm convinced, they didn't go" and then say "when you watch these clips, you can tell they're really there" - that's pretty much as good as saying:

" I was wrong before, and I have now changed my position".

That's a retraction big fella.

Not that there is anything wrong with that .

Welcome to the side of rational thought. you might wind up liking it here.

 

[Exe Gesis]

When you first say "I'm convinced, they didn't go" and then say "when you watch these clips, you can tell they're really there" - that's pretty much as good as saying:

" I was wrong before, and I have now changed my position".

That's a retraction big fella.

Not that there is anything wrong with that .

Welcome to the side of rational thought. you might wind up liking it here.

Not really. I always bought we went. Didn't believe THAT conspiracy. Then at some point decades ago, started to disbelieve. Then went back to believing decades later. Then recently went back to disbelieving. Then just days ago, went back to believing.

Generally, like Duritz said about himself....I have time for conspiracy theories, i generally don't believe them, until evidence starts coming thru (good or bad evidence) natural response is to distrust and believe that there's lying going on/etc. Then over time as experts in various related fields start chipping away at the CT, I'll have more logic/reason to counter-balance and properly think about it, make a decision. The moon one in particular has some really good evidence against, which is why I veer back and forth and sit on the fence so much. But things like 9/11 i'm %100 convinced was an inside job.

 

[BustedWing]

Not really. I always bought we went. Didn't believe THAT conspiracy.

Boy, you are one confusing fella GG. You say things like:

Ok im going to commit to a side now, and say they faked it.

Can you do us all a favour and perhaps, I dont know, use a different font, or put the type in bold when you say things you dont really mean? Would be much easier for us to separate your position on topics from the crap.

 

[BustedWing]

You look like a fool as a result.

While I certainly don't disagree with you here, he is a young kid as far as I can tell, and thinks he is being clever here. In time, he may look back on this and cringe.

Ah, the stupidity of youth!

 

[Exe Gesis]

Boy, you are one confusing fella GG. You say things like:



Can you do us all a favour and perhaps, I dont know, use a different font, or put the type in bold when you say things you dont really mean? Would be much easier for us to separate your position on topics from the crap.

There'd be no fun in that for me.

 

[STFU Donnie]

Also the fact that armstrong didn't swear on the Bible

like c'mon, that's a perfect chance to shut up a conspiracy theorist and earn $5000. I know it's clutching at straws but there's no reason you wouldn't do it unless you were a devout Christian or whatever and you had never been to the Moon

Or maybe he thought it would be demeaning that he, Neil Armstrong, should lower himself to the level of those who actually believe this bullshit.

 

[BustedWing]

There'd be no fun in that for me.

Touche.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Or maybe he thought it would be demeaning that he, Neil Armstrong, should lower himself to the level of those who actually believe this bullshit.

Or he could just do it and shut them up

 

[STFU Donnie]

Or he could just do it and shut them up

You do realise he's dead, don't you?

 

[BustedWing]

Or he could just do it and shut them up

The problem is, it wouldn't shut them up. Agreeing to put his hand on the bible, wouldn't have suddenly convinced this guy to exclaim "wow! he swore on the bible that he went! I am now convinced. Sorry to bother you, Neil".

When dealing with a deranged lunatic like Sibrel, you are best to just ignore him, and hopefully he goes away.

I feel for the astronauts who have to deal with idiots like him.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

You do realise he's dead, don't you?

He looked like he was pretty alive in that video...

 

[BustedWing]

He looked like he was pretty alive in that video...

Armstrong died in 2012. Wont get another chance to swear on Sibrel's bible now...

 

[Lebbo73]

The problem is, it wouldn't shut them up. Agreeing to put his hand on the bible, wouldn't have suddenly convinced this guy to exclaim "wow! he swore on the bible that he went! I am now convinced. Sorry to bother you, Neil".

When dealing with a deranged lunatic like Sibrel, you are best to just ignore him, and hopefully he goes away.

I feel for the astronauts who have to deal with idiots like him.

I am pretty sure that a Christian is not supposed to swear on the Bible as it says not to take oathes!

 

[Exe Gesis]

http://www.truedisclosure.org/news/...le-on-whats-really-happening-on-the-moon.html





U.S. Defense Physicist Blows Whistle On What's Really Happening On The Moon

I’m skeptical about many things, including the notion that government always knows best, and that the people can’t be trusted with the truth. The time to pull the curtain back on this subject is long overdue. We have statements from the most credible sources – those in a position to know – about a fascinating phenomenon, the nature of which is yet to be determined.
John Podesta, Chief of Staff for Bill Clinton, Counselor To Barack Obama (taken from Leslie Kean’s 2010 New York Times bestseller, UFOs: Generals, Pilots, And Government Officials Go On The Record, in which Podesta wrote the forward)​

Dr. John Brandenburg, PhD is a plasma physicist. 1 He did his graduate work in California at Lawrence Livermore National Lab in controlled plasmas for fusion power, and has worked in energy, defense, and space research for a number of years. He is currently a consultant at Morningstar applied Physics LLC, and a part-time instructor of Astronomy, Physics, and Mathematics at Madison College.

He is the principle inventor of the MET (Microwave Electro-Thermal) plasma thruster using water propellant for space propulsion.

Brandenburg was involved in the Clementine Mission 2 to the Moon, which was part of a joint space project between the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization (BMDO) and NASA. The mission discovered water at the Moon's poles in 1994. He was the deputy manager of that mission. 3

It's noteworthy to mention here that the Russian government recently called for an international investigation into the U.S. moon landings regarding missing artifacts (lunar rock) and the disappearance of film footage. You can read more about that story HERE.

According to Brandenburg: (quotes taken from the documentary "Aliens on the Moon" 4).

It was (the Clementine Mission) a photo reconnaissance mission basically to check out if someone was building bases on the moon that we didn't know about. Were they expanding them? 4
​

He also went on to state that after the completion of the Clementine Mission, they were analyzed by an elite defense department team with the highest security clearance:

They basically kept to themselves and just did their work, and we were told not to interfere with them... 4
The mission was designed to investigate and map all corners of the moon.​

This is a very brief background of someone who is clearly a well respected "academic" in his field. Not long ago, he joined a long and growing list of "academics" who are helping to pull back the curtain that's been blinding the masses for what seems to be a very long time, even though this subject is still ridiculed by some in the academic world.

It was during the Clementine Mission, more specifically, the mapping of the Lunar Surface, that he began to suspect an extraterrestrial presence on the moon.

Of all the pictures I've seen from the moon that show possible structures, the most impressive is a picture of a miles wide recto-linear structure. This looked unmistakably artificial, and it shouldn't be there. As somebody in the space defense community, I look on any such structure on the moon with great concern because it isn't ours, there's no way we could have built such a thing. It means someone else is up there.​

He's also been quoted as saying:

We were aware there was a possibility of an unknown presence, possibly alien/extraterrestrial near the Earth ... There I am sitting in a room of retired army and airforce generals and a few admirals, and we're watching what looks like a firefight in space. The most senior general there ... turned to me and said, "Where do you think they're from?" and I said, "I don't know sir, I've heard they're from 40 light years from here."​

Bradenburg was and still is a very respected academic. He did, however, open himself up to much criticism in 2012 when he suggested there was evidence of a thermonuclear war on Mars in the distant past. Since then, he has been heavily criticized, as has any one of the hundreds of credible witnesses that have now come forward to speak about the extraterrestrial reality.

With more and more people like Brandenburg coming forward, the stigma associated with such claims is slowly being mitigated, giving others the courage to share their stories. Here are a few quotes from other "academics," taken from a very long list:

Intelligent beings from other star systems have been and are visiting our planet Earth. They are variously referred to as Visitors, Others, Star People, ETs, etc. ... They are visiting Earth now; this is not a matter of conjecture or wistful thinking. 5
Theodor C. Loder III, PhD, Professor Emeritus of Earth Sciences, University of New Hampshire​

There is another way, whether it’s wormholes or warping space, there’s got to be a way to generate energy so that you can pull it out of the vacuum, and the fact that they’re here shows us that they found a way. 6
Jack Kasher, Ph.D, Professor Emeritus of physics, University of Nebraska.

There is abundant evidence that we are being contacted, that civilizations have been visiting us for a very long time. That their appearance is bizarre from any kind of traditional materialistic western point of view. That these visitors use the technologies of consciousness, they use toroids, they use co-rotating magnetic disks for their propulsion systems, that seems to be a common denominator of the UFO phenomenon. 7
Dr. Brian O’Leary, Former NASA astronaut and Princeton physics professor​

 

[BustedWing]

http://www.truedisclosure.org/news/...le-on-whats-really-happening-on-the-moon.html





U.S. Defense Physicist Blows Whistle On What's Really Happening On The Moon

I’m skeptical about many things, including the notion that government always knows best, and that the people can’t be trusted with the truth. The time to pull the curtain back on this subject is long overdue. We have statements from the most credible sources – those in a position to know – about a fascinating phenomenon, the nature of which is yet to be determined.
John Podesta, Chief of Staff for Bill Clinton, Counselor To Barack Obama (taken from Leslie Kean’s 2010 New York Times bestseller, UFOs: Generals, Pilots, And Government Officials Go On The Record, in which Podesta wrote the forward)​

Dr. John Brandenburg, PhD is a plasma physicist. 1 He did his graduate work in California at Lawrence Livermore National Lab in controlled plasmas for fusion power, and has worked in energy, defense, and space research for a number of years. He is currently a consultant at Morningstar applied Physics LLC, and a part-time instructor of Astronomy, Physics, and Mathematics at Madison College.

He is the principle inventor of the MET (Microwave Electro-Thermal) plasma thruster using water propellant for space propulsion.

Brandenburg was involved in the Clementine Mission 2 to the Moon, which was part of a joint space project between the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization (BMDO) and NASA. The mission discovered water at the Moon's poles in 1994. He was the deputy manager of that mission. 3

It's noteworthy to mention here that the Russian government recently called for an international investigation into the U.S. moon landings regarding missing artifacts (lunar rock) and the disappearance of film footage. You can read more about that story HERE.

According to Brandenburg: (quotes taken from the documentary "Aliens on the Moon" 4).

It was (the Clementine Mission) a photo reconnaissance mission basically to check out if someone was building bases on the moon that we didn't know about. Were they expanding them? 4
​

He also went on to state that after the completion of the Clementine Mission, they were analyzed by an elite defense department team with the highest security clearance:

They basically kept to themselves and just did their work, and we were told not to interfere with them... 4
The mission was designed to investigate and map all corners of the moon.​

This is a very brief background of someone who is clearly a well respected "academic" in his field. Not long ago, he joined a long and growing list of "academics" who are helping to pull back the curtain that's been blinding the masses for what seems to be a very long time, even though this subject is still ridiculed by some in the academic world.

It was during the Clementine Mission, more specifically, the mapping of the Lunar Surface, that he began to suspect an extraterrestrial presence on the moon.

Of all the pictures I've seen from the moon that show possible structures, the most impressive is a picture of a miles wide recto-linear structure. This looked unmistakably artificial, and it shouldn't be there. As somebody in the space defense community, I look on any such structure on the moon with great concern because it isn't ours, there's no way we could have built such a thing. It means someone else is up there.​

He's also been quoted as saying:

We were aware there was a possibility of an unknown presence, possibly alien/extraterrestrial near the Earth ... There I am sitting in a room of retired army and airforce generals and a few admirals, and we're watching what looks like a firefight in space. The most senior general there ... turned to me and said, "Where do you think they're from?" and I said, "I don't know sir, I've heard they're from 40 light years from here."​

Bradenburg was and still is a very respected academic. He did, however, open himself up to much criticism in 2012 when he suggested there was evidence of a thermonuclear war on Mars in the distant past. Since then, he has been heavily criticized, as has any one of the hundreds of credible witnesses that have now come forward to speak about the extraterrestrial reality.

With more and more people like Brandenburg coming forward, the stigma associated with such claims is slowly being mitigated, giving others the courage to share their stories. Here are a few quotes from other "academics," taken from a very long list:

Intelligent beings from other star systems have been and are visiting our planet Earth. They are variously referred to as Visitors, Others, Star People, ETs, etc. ... They are visiting Earth now; this is not a matter of conjecture or wistful thinking. 5
Theodor C. Loder III, PhD, Professor Emeritus of Earth Sciences, University of New Hampshire​

There is another way, whether it’s wormholes or warping space, there’s got to be a way to generate energy so that you can pull it out of the vacuum, and the fact that they’re here shows us that they found a way. 6
Jack Kasher, Ph.D, Professor Emeritus of physics, University of Nebraska.

There is abundant evidence that we are being contacted, that civilizations have been visiting us for a very long time. That their appearance is bizarre from any kind of traditional materialistic western point of view. That these visitors use the technologies of consciousness, they use toroids, they use co-rotating magnetic disks for their propulsion systems, that seems to be a common denominator of the UFO phenomenon. 7
Dr. Brian O’Leary, Former NASA astronaut and Princeton physics professor​

Which of this is cut and paste from an external source, GG, and which is your own thoughts and beliefs?

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Which of this is cut and paste from an external source, GG, and which is your own thoughts and beliefs?

click the link...

 

[BustedWing]

click the link...

Cool. So all of it is from the external source.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

From Apollo 17

 

[BustedWing]

From Apollo 17

Where is this from?

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Where is this from?

Apollo 17