Neil Craig- Worst Coaching Performance Ever?

[Cap]

No I blame them equally. Just because Douglas is a youngster doesn't excuse his lack of effort just it doesn't excuse Welsh just because he is a senior player.

well i think i will agree to disagree with on this one stiffy

i can't believe that you will allow Welsh to hide behind a 4 game rookie

 

[Stiffy_18]

well i think i will agree to disagree with on this one stiffy

i can't believe that you will allow Welsh to hide behind a 4 game rookie

Who the **** is allowing him to hide behind Doulgas?!

I blame them both equally but what I won't accept is this excuse that Douglas is a youngster. He might be a youngster but it doesn't take any skill to run and pressure your opponent. Thats work rate. Not age.

Its also hypocritical to blame Welsh and let Douglas off the hook. They are both guilty of it. Age and experience shouldn't matter when it comes to simple things such as workrate.

 

[tribey]

Sometimes its hard when you have 2 blokes hanging off you. But you are right, it sometimes is an excuse for dropping marks. We all knew Perrie was underdone and he will drop the undroppable so why not have a crumber in front of him to mop up and at least give us half a chance to score rather than no chance?

North won two Premierships this way - their entire structure and gameplan relied on it.

Either Carey/McKernan marks and has a shot, or he brings it down for the mosquito fleet who practically wrote the book on 'front and square'.

We've bemoaned our lack of a natural crumbing forward for years now, but given the paucity of marking targets at the moment it's now more important than ever that we have someone, anyone, in the role.

 

[Cap]

Who the **** is allowing him to hide behind Doulgas?!

I blame them both equally but what I won't accept is this excuse that Douglas is a youngster. He might be a youngster but it doesn't take any skill to run and pressure your opponent. Thats work rate. Not age.

Its also hypocritical to blame Welsh and let Douglas off the hook. They are both guilty of it. Age and experience shouldn't matter when it comes to simple things such as workrate.

I am not letting Douglas off, but surely you can expect some weaker performances from rookies, but to lay equal blame on Welsh and Douglas is bizzare. Rookies generally fade in and out of games, workrate included even the great BG and MM for Carlton fade in and out of a game, revolt used to as well for the saints, thats the whole point in giving them game time to get the experience and fitness to stop it happening.
But S Welsh is a 100 game veteran who had what 1 kick and a handball ??? if we are going to be laying blame by percentiles then it is clearly Scott Welsh in the majority(of course I am not talking about our total forward failure)

 

[Cap]

North won two Premierships this way - their entire structure and gameplan relied on it.

Either Carey/McKernan marks and has a shot, or he brings it down for the mosquito fleet who practically wrote the book on 'front and square'.

We've bemoaned our lack of a natural crumbing forward for years now, but given the paucity of marking targets at the moment it's now more important than ever that we have someone, anyone, in the role.

just out on interest - do we think the Vince, Porplyzia or even Archard could fill this roll or is Bode the only one on our list capable of a real crumbing roll ?

 

[tribey]

just out on interest - do we think the Vince, Porplyzia or even Archard could fill this roll or is Bode the only one on our list capable of a real crumbing roll ?

I know it's a soft answer, but I'd give either a shot.

Bode has proven he's handy in the role, with the added bonus of being very good defensively - which is paramount given the amount of rebounds we're copping.

Vince has natural talent and that requisite bit of arse you need in a small/medium forward. If he can come good we might have that Vardy-esque forward who can bob up with 3 or 4 gamebreakers.

Porplyzia's positives are more his hands, but he's shown he knows where the goals are - and he can rotate through the midfield if that needs bolstering.

Don't know anything of Archard.

Anything's got to be an improvement on what was dished up yesterday.

 

[Cap]

I know it's a soft answer, but I'd give either a shot.

Bode has proven he's handy in the role, with the added bonus of being very good defensively - which is paramount given the amount of rebounds we're copping.

Vince has natural talent and that requisite bit of arse you need in a small/medium forward. If he can come good we might have that Vardy-esque forward who can bob up with 3 or 4 gamebreakers.

Porplyzia's positives are more his hands, but he's shown he knows where the goals are - and he can rotate through the midfield if that needs bolstering.

Don't know anything of Archard.

Anything's got to be an improvement on what was dished up yesterday.

I think maybe Archard is more a midfielder - has pace too (apparantly )

I guess its really between Vince and Bode, so Bode is more or less in the running for a spot. Geeze I wish we had Skippy, he would be handy right now

 

[Crow-mo]

is that more a reflection of our most senior small forward in Welsh than a issue with a 4 game rookie in Douglas ?

given the difference in type of player. erm, no.

 

[Crow-mo]

- so the 4 game rookie gets a lot of the blame while the 100 + veteran gets what excuses for a bad game

sure Douglas can run, chase and put pressure on, but so can welsh, Welsh did sweet bugger all to even pick up the slack of playing next to a rookie

c'mon stiffy surely your post was in jest ?

Douglas and Welsh have exactly 0 things in common as players.
it is completely off base to be suggesting that they share the same role.

more importantly we know Scotty Welsh, and he ain't going to be holding the ball in the forward line. We gave Dougie that responsibility; which is what many were asking for.

of course we shouldn't hang him out to dry, but we shouldn't pretend to look the other way either.

 

[macca23]

I know it's a soft answer, but I'd give either a shot.

Bode has proven he's handy in the role, with the added bonus of being very good defensively - which is paramount given the amount of rebounds we're copping.

Vince has natural talent and that requisite bit of arse you need in a small/medium forward. If he can come good we might have that Vardy-esque forward who can bob up with 3 or 4 gamebreakers.

Porplyzia's positives are more his hands, but he's shown he knows where the goals are - and he can rotate through the midfield if that needs bolstering.

Don't know anything of Archard.

Anything's got to be an improvement on what was dished up yesterday.

Amen brother.

That performance took me back to the low days of 2004 under Adolph Ayres.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Amen brother.

That performance took me back to the low days of 2004 under Adolph Ayres.

Unfortunately the big difference between now and then is Macca, Edwards, Roo, Goody are all 3 years older.