Neil Craig

[Ned_Flanders]

Craig isn't director of coaching at Melbourne.

Carry on.

correct - from the way Lyon has talked about it, its an overarching role. not sure which arches he's going over, but apparently he'll be overarching a hell of a lot in 2012

"overarching" now joins my list of crap footy media make up like "list clogger" and "fish rots from the head" which every other media bogans start repeating to sound smart.

 

[Heisenberg_]

correct - from the way Lyon has talked about it, its an overarching role. not sure which arches he's going over, but apparently he'll be overarching a hell of a lot in 2012

"overarching" now joins my list of crap footy media make up like "list clogger" and "fish rots from the head" which every other media bogans start repeating to sound smart.

Melbourne version of Greg Miller by the sounds of it

 

[Frank Grimes]

Craig isn't director of coaching at Melbourne.

Carry on.

Umm.. Yes he is. Even though they changed the name from "Director of coaching" to "Director of sport performance" it's effectively the same role.

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/7415/newsid/124378/default.aspx

"As part of this, a key responsibility for the Director of Sport Performance will be supporting, developing and mentoring the coaching team."

In other words he's effectively responsible for the coaching panel. If that it not the responsibilities of a director of coaching then I don't know what is.

 

[Frank Grimes]

I don't think the strength of a backline has as much to do with conceding as the defensive work of the midfield in the modern tactical climate.

Apparently you guys are looking to appoint Bailey as an assistant.

I'm sure some will rip into you for it, but I can assure you he would be a fantastic assistant.

A great communicator and teacher, which is pretty much what an assistant coach needs to be.

I would truely be dissappointed if we get Bailey. It would be an absolute embarrassment. We may as well appoint Wallace or Greg Miller again if we want to screw the club just for the hell of it.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Umm.. Yes he is. Even though they changed the name from "Director of coaching" to "Director of sport performance" it's effectively the same role.

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/7415/newsid/124378/default.aspx

"As part of this, a key responsibility for the Director of Sport Performance will be supporting, developing and mentoring the coaching team."

In other words he's effectively responsible for the coaching panel. If that it not the responsibilities of a director of coaching then I don't know what is.

You didn't think the other aspects of the job were worth mentioning?

"The role will strongly focus on the establishment of an elite performance culture, in particular strategy and innovation."

Craig has zero match-day influence, he is not 'responsible' for the coaching panel.

Simply a mentor.

He has a much greater responsibility to our fitness and conditioning staff.

I would truely be dissappointed if we get Bailey. It would be an absolute embarrassment. We may as well appoint Wallace or Greg Miller again if we want to screw the club just for the hell of it.

What's wrong with Bailey?

 

[Tzatziki_Man]

Wanna know why he chose Melbourne?


It's quite complicated you see, there are 400,000 extra reasons that prompted him to go to Melbourne.

 

[dwwaino]

As more info comes out it turns out in fact that we weren't even after Craig as for his most qualified talents. Makes sense since there is nothing wrong with Matt Hornsby and the new AP partnership is a really really big deal in this area (and our ME Bank center at Punt Rd is pretty rad now). We simply offered a senior assistant coach role since our own senior coach is far more qualified in football. But without being the jerk I was in some of my previous posts in this thread (cheap pot shots at Melbourne), why would Melbourne hire both Mission AND Craig? They're both big fish in the physical performance side of things and from my point of view seems redundant and quite an unnecessarily expensive exercise. Does Craig report to the senior coach or the CEO? It was clear at Richmond he was going below Dimma.

As for Bailey let's see how it pans out. The media haven't been too spot on lately (yesterday morning for example some said Craig to Carlton was inked and sealed). At first I was dubious but as someone compared on the OER forum Bailey is more qualified as an assistant coach than Craig is. So for the role we were looking to fill then he is a better fit.

As for the comment concerning our appointment of Ross Smith and his role. Leppa is still the coach of our back 6 and his area is still the one on one coaching and development. I guess to outsiders not following as closely as we obviously do, the 'defensive' description of Ross could be confused. He will help with defensive tactical areas around the ground. Dimma and our players said all year we need to work on our defensive game and that doesn't mean our backline. It's about forward presses, defensive work of the midfielders etc.

 

[Frank Grimes]

You didn't think the other aspects of the job were worth mentioning?

"The role will strongly focus on the establishment of an elite performance culture, in particular strategy and innovation."

Craig has zero match-day influence, he is not 'responsible' for the coaching panel.

Simply a mentor.

He has a much greater responsibility to our fitness and conditioning staff.

Okay I'll take that back. He's not just a "director of coaching" he's a "director of coaching with other responsibilities on the side". A director of coaching doesn't have to have a match day role, they only have to oversee the coaching panel and make sure they are effective. Which sounds like part of Craigs job description.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Director of Sports Performance, actually.

Sure the role has aspects of a DoC, so what?

That automatically makes him a DoC?

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Wanna know why he chose Melbourne?


It's quite complicated you see, there are 400,000 extra reasons that prompted him to go to Melbourne.

Laughable.

There are plenty of reasons I can think of.

 

[CoggaRules]

Director of Sports Performance, actually.

Sure the role has aspects of a DoC, so what?

Give you the tip dude. Its Melbourne's try hard attempt to seem to be one of those proffesional up to speed clubs. So tell us what does the director of sport performance actually do? Direct sport performance? Sounds real scientific and all that shit dude. The thing is that directors of sports performances are available when you need them, now you need to pay yours a salary instead of getting charged for a consultation or 2 or 3.

 

[Tzatziki_Man]

Laughable.

There are plenty of reasons I can think of.

Yep, we'll I had a chat with KB this afternoon, bumped into him near the SEN station and asked him about Craig and he said Melbourne offered him 60% more than we did, and only Brisbane really rivalled that offer.

If you want to believe his sappy bullshit about your club creating the game and blah blah blah, remember that the guy has a family to secure and it's really a no-brainer.

 

[ize_]

Laughable.

There are plenty of reasons I can think of.

Just like there are plenty of other reasons why Scully, Ward and Davis left...?

 

[CoggaRules]

Long range tip, middle of 2013, Neeld will be sacked and Craig will take over. It might happen even earlier.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Give you the tip dude. Its Melbourne's try hard attempt to seem to be one of those proffesional up to speed clubs. So tell us what does the director of sport performance actually do? Direct sport performance? Sounds real scientific and all that shit dude. The thing is that directors of sports performances are available when you need them, now you need to pay yours a salary instead of getting charged for a consultation or 2 or 3.

Thanks for the tip 'dude'.

I can actually work out Craigs role, a bonus is that I don't have the cloud of bitterness over my judgement that a few Richmond supporters have for missing out an excellent football person, I'm very happy with the appointment.

As far as I can tell, trying 'hard' to become a professional club works for other clubs.

It's better than not trying at all.

 

[Bojangles17]

i couldnt careless tbh, at the end of the day what was all the fuss about this waste of space that has ultimately achieved NOTHING from this great game...thats it , no more than what Dean Baliley has. so if the chemistry between dimma and a former teammate and colleague light up then we are on the right track and a step forward in a more diverse and expereinced brainstrust than what we had in 2011

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Yep, we'll I had a chat with KB this afternoon, bumped into him near the SEN station and asked him about Craig and he said Melbourne offered him 60% more than we did, and only Brisbane really rivalled that offer.

If you want to believe his sappy bullshit about your club creating the game and blah blah blah, remember that the guy has a family to secure and it's really a no-brainer.

Either KB is full of shit or Richmond must have offered a complete pittance to him.

I don't believe that 'sappy bullshit' at all, but thanks for making an assumption.

Of course, we offered more money, that's a factor.

But I think Craig is significantly more suited to Melbourne's role than a 'senior assistant' position at Richmond.

I could mention another couple of reasons, but I doubt they will be well received.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

i couldnt careless tbh, at the end of the day what was all the fuss about this waste of space that has ultimately achieved NOTHING from this great game...thats it , no more than what Dean Baliley has. so if the chemistry between dimma and a former teammate and colleague light up then we are on the right track and a step forward in a more diverse and expereinced brainstrust than what we had in 2011

I think he played over 300 SANFL games and featured in 10+ State games.

Also was a key part of a couple of Premierships for the Crows as an assistant/sports science specialist.

 

[Tzatziki_Man]

I could mention another couple of reasons, but I doubt they will be well received.

You got a better playing list? A winning culture? Better facilities? A hairy gorilla as an interim presi, chairma, ...err ummm .. football operations manager?

I have no idea why you honestly think your club will excel after this? The two biggest reasons to your failures are still there.

Royal and Royal's shadow.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

You got a better playing list? A winning culture? Better facilities? A hairy gorilla as an interim presi, chairma, ...err ummm .. football operations manager?

I have no idea why you honestly think your club will excel after this? The two biggest reasons to your failures are still there.

Royal and Royal's shadow.

There are a couple actually.

I'll leave you alone in a second.

Despite Melbourne's absolutely atrocious year, your boys only managed to finish above us on percentage.

Does that fill you with confidence?

 

[NQTIGER]

You got a better playing list? A winning culture? Better facilities? A hairy gorilla as an interim presi, chairma, ...err ummm .. football operations manager?

I have no idea why you honestly think your club will excel after this? The two biggest reasons to your failures are still there.

Royal and Royal's shadow.

You missed a couple, but im not quibling....

 

[Tzatziki_Man]

There are a couple actually.

I'll leave you alone in a second.

Despite Melbourne's absolutely atrocious year, your boys only managed to finish above us on percentage.

Does that fill you with confidence?

Better facilities? Really? We won't get kicked out of ours under any circumstance, you know that right?

As for the playing list, debatable, not fact either way, I like many of Melbourne's players, but you have an older list than us, we have closed the gap drastically and keep in mind, Scully is gone and Royal is your midfield coach, I wouldn't so confident just yet.

 

[NQTIGER]

There are a couple actually.

I'll leave you alone in a second.

Despite Melbourne's absolutely atrocious year, your boys only managed to finish above us on percentage.

Does that fill you with confidence?

hahahahahaha.....we finished above the BEST young List in the land?

The best young list of all time?????


hahahahahahaha

why did scully say he left because of the culture of the place?

hahahahahaha.......

Do we get these sort of rights on your stinking board?

dont let the door hit your arse on the way out........delusional...what?

 

[jihg]

I think he played over 300 SANFL games and featured in 10+ State games.

Also was a key part of a couple of Premierships for the Crows as an assistant/sports science specialist.

Back in 97/98 he was credited with being a big part in the Crows premierships due to his background however the last 7 years he was the senior coach of Adelaide I think it fair to ask did he keep up to date with his sports science or did it drop off due to him being more focussed on coaching. Or did he keep up at the expense to the detriment of his coaching.

I believe that Melbourne wanted their man and tailored a job to suit him and Richmond had a position and went for someone to fill it. Then comes the money. Whether he gets what his position is worth or a bit more to ensure he took the role we were offering him the money we felt warranted for an assistant coach of course different roles would mean different money amounts.

Personally I would have been happy enough to have taken a chance on him with his sports science background but as an assistant coach I am happy he didn't come.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Better facilities? Really? We won't get kicked out of ours under any circumstance, you know that right?

As for the playing list, debatable, not fact either way, I like many of Melbourne's players, but you have an older list than us, we have closed the gap drastically and keep in mind, Scully is gone and Royal is your midfield coach, I wouldn't so confident just yet.

Craig was apparently super impressed with our facilities.

I'm not to sure about the age of the list, but I'm pretty sure ours is the youngest bar the GC in the competition.

Albeit that's probably splitting hairs, and it's quality that matters.

Scully is gone, that's true. We have been compensated for him, hopefully we can use that well.

Royal coached the Saints midfield in 09 and 10. What a shit coach!

I like a lot of Richmond's players as well, the reality is that despite an outstanding top 5 or 6 players, the bottom half of your 22 needs a fair bit of improvement IMO.