New Carlton coach?

Next Coach?

  • Lyon

    Votes: 71 54.6%
  • Clarkson

    Votes: 17 13.1%
  • Buckley

    Votes: 15 11.5%
  • B Scott

    Votes: 7 5.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 20 15.4%

  • Total voters
    130

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Elmer_Judd

Baggers 9-4 2022
Jul 25, 2019
30,276
47,384
AFL Club
Carlton
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Leeds United
You got kissed on the dick by the fixture. Relax. Beat a top 7 team first.

You played one and we know how that turned out.

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And my point still stands. You're not winning the flag this year and Voss needs time to achieve that goal. Don't come at his throat later when you're given a fixture that doesn't flatter you.

Who said Carlton are winning the flag this year ? I certainly don't.
Most of us are reasonably measured and realistic about our chances this year, just enjoying and taking it one week/game at a time
 

BLUEALLTHRU

It's your shout!
Feb 8, 2012
27,811
54,481
Publican Baghdad Ritz
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Carlton
Other Teams
Baghdad Bombers
lol. Obsessed much?

I think you will find I made a number of very positive comments about Voss when he was appointed.
Not at all but please clarify this sentence.

SOS recruited far too many unprepared to play a role.
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Grand Uncle Horace

Hall of Famer
May 24, 2017
37,547
45,670
Old South Grandstand
AFL Club
Sydney
Not at all but please clarify this sentence.


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Plse stop sending me your self portraits.

Let's say you have a look at players like Dow, SPS (gone) and Fisher and their inability to play roles they were not playing when drafted. Stocker by contrast will not make a mid but he has buckled down and made himself a well regarded small defender.

Carlton were right to move SOS on. Even the trades have got better. Compare McGovern and Martin with Cerra and Hewett.
 

OnceWeWereKings

Premiership Player
Oct 23, 2007
3,644
7,777
Melbourne
AFL Club
Carlton
You got kissed on the dick by the fixture. Relax. Beat a top 7 team first.

You played one and we know how that turned out.

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And my point still stands. You're not winning the flag this year and Voss needs time to achieve that goal. Don't come at his throat later when you're given a fixture that doesn't flatter you.
I’m fairly relaxed. You’re the one that seems to be getting all excited 😊
Don’t expect to win the flag, though we’re a better shot than some 😂
 

Kreuuuzeurns

Norm Smith Medallist
Sep 25, 2013
8,528
15,245
AFL Club
Carlton
You got kissed on the dick by the fixture. Relax. Beat a top 7 team first.

You played one and we know how that turned out.

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And my point still stands. You're not winning the flag this year and Voss needs time to achieve that goal. Don't come at his throat later when you're given a fixture that doesn't flatter you.

Nice melt
 

BLUEALLTHRU

It's your shout!
Feb 8, 2012
27,811
54,481
Publican Baghdad Ritz
AFL Club
Carlton
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Plse stop sending me your self portraits.

Let's say you have a look at players like Dow, SPS (gone) and Fisher and their inability to play roles they were not playing when drafted. Stocker by contrast will not make a mid but he has buckled down and made himself a well regarded small defender.

Carlton were right to move SOS on. Even the trades have got better. Compare McGovern and Martin with Cerra and Hewett.
Easy to cherry pick and not mention a spine that will set Carlton up for a long period of sustained success, H,Charlieand Weits and an awesome utility in his son. Plow is solid and by all reports Marchbank is back tracking nicely.
 

Thrawn

Hall of Famer
Jul 21, 2001
34,219
29,281
Melbourne, Australia.
AFL Club
Carlton
You got kissed on the dick by the fixture. Relax. Beat a top 7 team first.

You played one and we know how that turned out.

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And my point still stands. You're not winning the flag this year and Voss needs time to achieve that goal. Don't come at his throat later when you're given a fixture that doesn't flatter you.
This is coming from the guy who said Melbourne aren't that good. Your analysis means nothing.
 

BigFrizz36

Norm Smith Medallist
Mar 20, 2017
5,453
17,721
AFL Club
Carlton
You can't do s**t in 2 years.

When Carlton appoint a coach, you better start being more realistic and give a man at least 3 or more to actually do something.

You need to accept the fact that you're not gonna be that good for a while and hope you somehow get ahead of schedule. It's better to over-deliver than to under-deliver.

This "can you smell what they're cooking" s**t needs to stop. You are a rabble, you haven't done anything in 26 years, you've won more spoons than finals. It's time to wake up, stop smelling your own roses, bite the pillow and aim for long-term success with short-term pain. The time for using your big club status to absolve you of your disfigurement is over.

Carlton still hasn't escaped out of this old-world mentality and that's their issue.
I'd actually prefer to call you wrong.
 

JustaBattler

Everyone Looks Better In Blue
May 31, 2012
22,742
46,624
AFL Club
Carlton
You got kissed on the dick by the fixture. Relax. Beat a top 7 team first.

You played one and we know how that turned out.

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And my point still stands. You're not winning the flag this year and Voss needs time to achieve that goal. Don't come at his throat later when you're given a fixture that doesn't flatter you.
How many points start are you giving the Carlton rabble against your "well run Club" in a few weeks time? Asking for a friend.

Tell you what - to make it easier for you how about Carlton puts an injury line through the following starting players from round 1 : McDonald| McGovern| Pittonet | McKay | Williams and just for LOLs we play Cripps and Silvagni as rucks.
 

Juddernaut08

Brownlow Medallist
Suspended
Nov 8, 2007
10,182
13,848
Melbourne
AFL Club
Carlton
You got kissed on the dick by the fixture. Relax. Beat a top 7 team first.

You played one and we know how that turned out.

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And my point still stands. You're not winning the flag this year and Voss needs time to achieve that goal. Don't come at his throat later when you're given a fixture that doesn't flatter you.
7-2 vs 2-7

dont blame the fixture son
 

Arr0w

Hall of Famer
Nov 13, 2015
34,962
97,266
In Transit
AFL Club
Carlton
You can't do s**t in 2 years.

When Carlton appoint a coach, you better start being more realistic and give a man at least 3 or more to actually do something.

You need to accept the fact that you're not gonna be that good for a while and hope you somehow get ahead of schedule. It's better to over-deliver than to under-deliver.

This "can you smell what they're cooking" s**t needs to stop. You are a rabble, you haven't done anything in 26 years, you've won more spoons than finals. It's time to wake up, stop smelling your own roses, bite the pillow and aim for long-term success with short-term pain. The time for using your big club status to absolve you of your disfigurement is over.

Carlton still hasn't escaped out of this old-world mentality and that's their issue.

Enjoy a bold prediction, even moreso from a supporter of a team that hasn't been able to win a final for close to 2 decades. Then being up and about after an 11 win season off a soft draw, to now sitting at 2 - 7
 

DamoESP

Norm Smith Medallist
Aug 2, 2008
8,138
6,091
Perth
AFL Club
Carlton
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You got kissed on the dick by the fixture. Relax. Beat a top 7 team first.
Generally what happens is when you beat a team, they end up below you.

We played the Hawks when they were in the top 4 and beat them so we have beaten a "top 7 team" at the time, or is there an arbitrary point in the season where your "beat a top 7" team starts to count?

Also, why did you decide top 7 instead of the top 8 (which at least would be understandable as top 8 play finals).....let me guess, its because Richmond are currently 8th, who we beat, so it wouldn't fit your little narrative?
 

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Call Me Cake

I'll brb
Jun 9, 2007
8,258
4,695
Melbourne
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Essendon
And? We're currently 2-2 against top 8 sides, with a chance at the next two... one of the losses being by 15 points. That'd put us in the 8 if we continue that form.

Have only not lost to 1 top 8 team. 1. Bulk of wins concentrating at the bottom, bulk of losses concentrating to those closest to the 8. That clearly shows you've been kissed on the dick by the fixture and my point that the Blues will do nothing but make up the numbers and be shown up by the sides in contention for the finals is correct in hindsight.

Melbourne are still 2nd and will get May back, writing them off now just reinforces my point even further.

My point, which you loved to bring up externally, about Melbourne wasn't that they were completely written off, it was that they weren't that good - as their run of games until then was perceiving the masses to believe - that they were due for being shown up which would cast doubts on their early form, which is now correct in hindsight.

Bang, bang, bang all correct in hindsight. You're too far up your own backside to muster the courage to just be up front about that, even when you brought up an external point to discredit my opinion it was still thrown back in your face not too long after.

Your analysis means nothing.
 
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Blue1980

Brownlow Medallist
Jun 9, 2011
16,256
19,195
Melbourne
AFL Club
Carlton
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Have only not lost to 1 top 8 team. 1. Bulk of wins concentrating at the bottom, bulk of losses concentrating to those closest to the 8. That clearly shows you've been kissed on the dick by the fixture and my point that the Blues will do nothing but make up the numbers and be shown up by the sides in contention for the finals is correct in hindsight.



My point, which you loved to bring up externally, about Melbourne wasn't that they were completely written off, it was that they weren't that good - as their run of games until then was perceiving the masses to believe - that they were due for being shown up which would cast doubts on their early form, which is now correct in hindsight.

Bang, bang, bang all correct in hindsight. You're too far up your own backside to muster the courage to just be up front about that, even when you brought up an external point to discredit my opinion it was still thrown back in your face not too long after.

Your analysis means nothing.

We have only not won against one top 8 team.

Am I doing this right?
 

Thrawn

Hall of Famer
Jul 21, 2001
34,219
29,281
Melbourne, Australia.
AFL Club
Carlton
My point, which you loved to bring up externally, about Melbourne wasn't that they were completely written off, it was that they weren't that good - as their run of games until then was perceiving the masses to believe - that they were due for being shown up which would cast doubts on their early form, which is now correct in hindsight.

Bang, bang, bang all correct in hindsight. You're too far up your own backside to muster the courage to just be up front about that, even when you brought up an external point to discredit my opinion it was still thrown back in your face not too long after.

Your analysis means nothing.
Oh dear.
 

chunkylover53

Norm Smith Medallist
Aug 13, 2008
8,051
17,413
From Where You'd Rather Be
AFL Club
Carlton
Has our fixture turned out that easy? We play the below twice:

Richmond
Fremantle
GWS
Adelaide

2 of those are top 8 (potentially top 4).

GWS are average but always dangerous.
Adelaide are trash.

Seems pretty stock standard to me.

Fwiw Collingwood went 1-7 against top 8 teams in 2018 then stumbled into the GF. Kinda a flawed argument most years.