List Mgmt. New contracts all this week!

[Chasing the Dream]

Did I miss today's announcement??

 

[whatboutbob]

Did I miss today's announcement??

Nope. Postponed.

 

[joshhem]

Nope. Postponed.

What??? Post has resigned?!?!?!

 

[SizeMatters]

As soon as Voss contract wasn't renewed we get all these re-signings... not saying it has anything to do with Voss at all but it is a bit interesting to say the least.

 

[Haso]

As soon as Voss contract wasn't renewed we get all these re-signings... not saying it has anything to do with Voss at all but it is a bit interesting to say the least.

I feel as though you kind of are.

 

[SizeMatters]

I am very pleased to have these players re-sign just hope Lester is one of the blokes who has extended his contract.
I'm not sold on Paps sticking around though but we will have to wait and see

 

[James North]

I prefer to think they're signing on because I joined BigFooty. It was the same week.

 

[Skoob]

As soon as Voss contract wasn't renewed we get all these re-signings... not saying it has anything to do with Voss at all but it is a bit interesting to say the least.

Yeah, gotta love how they kept them secret for 7 months.

 

[Bert Man]

Dan 24, I'll repeat my divisions here, which are markedly different from John Elliott's, with whose system you agreed with.

My divisions would be something like this
DIVISION 1: Port Adelaide, Adelaide, Brisbane, Sydney, Richmond, Melbourne, Hawthorn, Kangaroos
DIVISION 2: West Coast, Fremantle, Western Bulldogs, Geelong, Collingwood, Essendon, Carlton, St Kilda.

Pessimistic's groupings are pretty good as well. Both are infinitely better than Elliott's.

Note that under these groupings the blockbusters to maximise attendances are still played, as well as looking after the interstate clubs a little more and allowing the possibility for Lions and Swans supporters to see their team a little more frequently in Melbourne.

For example:
Adelaide vs Port Adelaide twice a year
West Coast vs Fremantle twice a year
Collingwood vs Carlton twice a year
Essendon vs Carlton twice a year.
Less travel for Brisbane Lions and Sydney Swans each season. Instead of a guaranteed five matches "interstate" (I don't include Victoria), they would have three or possibly four matches interstate and therefore the chance of seven or possibly eight matches in Victoria.

Whether Brisbane has six or eight matches in Melbourne may be beside the point from your perspective, (as an Essendon supporter) but to me as a Melbourne-based supporter of the Lions (ex-Fitzroy) its bloody important. It's also important for the Brisbane Lions in cultivating a reasonable sized Victorian membership base, from the remnants of the Fitzroy faithful. They're out there as is evident by the 18,000-20,000 odd Brisbane Lions supporters (the majority of whom would have been Fitroy supporters) that turned up at the preliminary final last year. It's also important for the Lions players to gain experience playing in Victorian conditions and also in front of potentially large crowds of 50,000-60,000,seeing as this is where most of the finals are played. This goes not only for the Lions but also the other five interstate teams.

I'm opposed to any system that takes away the chance of seeing my team as often as possible. I'm am a supporter of the national competition and the 'big picture.' However I think there are far better alternatives to the groupings of clubs that Elliott came up with, which I'll say again, YOU agreed with.

I'm not sold that both WA would want him. Both clubs have a plethora of young forwards and Paparone would be a surplass to their needs.

 

[Dan12]

I'm not sold that both WA would want him. Both clubs have a plethora of young forwards and Paparone would be a surplass to their needs.

Fremantle desperately need a young key forward, even though he doesn't really play that position anyway. I think both clubs would love to get him.

 

[Bert Man]

Fremantle desperately need a young key forward, even though he doesn't really play that position anyway. I think both clubs would love to get him.

They just recruited Apeness and Alex Pearce. Both players can play as key forwards. They also have Taberner, Smith and Gumbleton. I think they may lay off recruiting a KPF for the year. Likewise WCE have plenty of options. Kennedy, Darling, McGovern and College can all play as a KPF. Lycett, Cox and Natanui can also play as forwards. Neither side lacks a tall IMO.

 

[Kevvo]

They just recruited Apeness and Alex Pearce. Both players can play as key forwards. They also have Taberner, Smith and Gumbleton. I think they may lay off recruiting a KPF for the year. Likewise WCE have plenty of options. Kennedy, Darling, McGovern and College can all play as a KPF. Lycett, Cox and Natanui can also play as forwards. Neither side lacks a tall IMO.

I think this is fair, but you can imagine Fremantle snapping up a tall running player with two years of conditioning for a low draft pick if we wind up in another no-leverage situation. I'm not panicking, and I don't have any opinion on whether Paparone wants to leave or not, but if he does I could see him going to Freo.

 

[cotter101]

As soon as Voss contract wasn't renewed we get all these re-signings... not saying it has anything to do with Voss at all but it is a bit interesting to say the least.

It does however seem like you are implying it... I think the guys who just re-signed with us would have stayed even if Voss was still the coach. Those blokes that re-signed all seem to be close with the rest of the playing group too.

I don't find it interesting at all personally.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

Culture

It does however seem like you are implying it... I think the guys who just re-signed with us would have stayed even if Voss was still the coach. Those blokes that re-signed all seem to be close with the rest of the playing group too.

I don't find it interesting at all personally.

All the re-signings are getting games, being paid well (presumably) and see the prospect of success. The ones we have to fight to hang on to are the ones on the fringe who aren't playing regularly, are on base salaries and don't perhaps see such a bright future, either for themselves or the club generally. Add a dose of homesickness and other clubs circling and you have a problem.

 

[pulpdriver]

Any word on when they're planning to announce those last two re-signings?

 

[T Rick]

As soon as Voss contract wasn't renewed we get all these re-signings... not saying it has anything to do with Voss at all but it is a bit interesting to say the least.

You don't like Vossy do you?

 

[Ceebee]

You don't like Vossy do you?

No ,he doesn't.

 

[SizeMatters]

I do like Voss, I just don't like the way he went about coaching...

 

[James North]

I do like Voss, I just don't like the way he went about coaching...

That's a totally valid opinion to have, I just think some of the assumptions you're making about linking players leaving or signing on have been a bit off the mark.

Suggesting that Voss caused players to leave after he was gone is a bit rough, and so is suggesting that players (some of those in the final year of their contract) have signed on this year because Voss has gone is also a little Fox News-esque.

It's clear you didn't like the guy's coaching style, I wasn't a fan of it for the most part either, but if those guys wanted to go home we don't want them here anyway.

Voss was the coach at the time and if they didn't like his style, they are professionals, and should've learnt to deal with it. I don't care how many great game* Polec has had.



* yes, game.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Anyone who signs at Brisbane, St Kilda, West Coast, GWS or Melbourne this year presumably hated their previous coach's guts. Has nothing to do with them simply being out of contract this year or anything like that...

 

[James North]

As Haso would say, "it's a long bow to draw".

 

[Haso]

James North has always been jelly of my grammar game.

 

[Chasing the Dream]

I am confused by most of the last page of this thread.

Especially the quoted post from 2000 about divisions.

Did I miss something?

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

I am confused by most of the last page of this thread.

Especially the quoted post from 2000 about divisions.

Did I miss something?

Only the years between 2000 and 2014.

 

[Chasing the Dream]

Heck, who won the Premiership in 2001?