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Thought we should have a thread where we can note new proposals and things for stadiums overseas.
Ill kick it off with Chelseas proposal for Stamford Bridge
Ill kick it off with Chelseas proposal for Stamford Bridge
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Been watching the progress of the new Golden State Warriors stadium the last couple of years as they move from Oakland across the bay to San Francisco and part of an multi billion dollar urban renewal and redevelopment of an old wharf area. The original plan was to be at Pier 30-32 close to the Bay Bridge but a couple of years of s**t fighting saw them give up and move down the bay a few kms and set up at Mission Bay.
The Chase Center ( US spelling) will be 18,000 seater and ready for 2019-20 season see more pictures and specs at
http://www.chasecenter.com/
Why are you frustrated? Are you missing out on a seat? Its a $1 billion USD state of the art stadium. An extra 7,000 seats will cost at least $200 million. Have you offered to finance the extra cost? Would local government have given approval for a stadium at least 1/3rd larger?? By making it sate of the art means there is a better chance it will be hired for 100+ days rather than just the 41 days for home games plus play off games. Bigger isn't always better!!This really really frustrates me and I understand supply and demand and they. An drive their prices and revenue up with the move to a new stadium, but they have had over 200 consecutive sell outs at Oracle with a capacity of about 1500 more. This means that 1500 fans who love their team are going to miss out at every single home game!
Given the love of basketball in that city, I think they are just being greedy and a 25000 seat stadium is what is really needed!
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Why are you frustrated? Are you missing out on a seat? Its a $1 billion USD state of the art stadium. An extra 7,000 seats will cost at least $200 million. Have you offered to finance the extra cost? Would local government have given approval for a stadium at least 1/3rd larger?? By making it sate of the art means there is a better chance it will be hired for 100+ days rather than just the 41 days for home games plus play off games. Bigger isn't always better!!
Why are you frustrated? Are you missing out on a seat? Its a $1 billion USD state of the art stadium. An extra 7,000 seats will cost at least $200 million. Have you offered to finance the extra cost? Would local government have given approval for a stadium at least 1/3rd larger?? By making it sate of the art means there is a better chance it will be hired for 100+ days rather than just the 41 days for home games plus play off games. Bigger isn't always better!!
But why would anyone be frustrated if it doesn't effect them personally? See you called it a franchise not a sporting club - which says straight away its about business. The owners of the Warriors in 2010 paid a then record $450mil for an NBA franchise/licence. Its a private ownership system league and the private owners have the right to make a decent return on equity and they are also spending $1 bil on a new stadium, which they believe will give the owners the best chance to get a better return on their investment, after they pay off the $1 bil stadium, and to make $$$ to pump into a wining team year in year out. NFL stadiums have been getting bigger capacity, whereas NHL, MLB and NBA stadiums haven't been getting bigger but smaller and more facilities since the early 1990's when all 4 North American sports went into expansion mode. That is their system and their marketplace, so I just don't see why an Aussie sports fan would get frustrated about the way they run their businesses ie leagues.It is frustrating when a franchise which has completely sold out their last 200 games in an arena of about 1500 more, can you not see what is wrong with that? 1500 fans are going to miss out on watching their side every single home game and it's built on the pure greed that they will be able to add more to the price of their seats and pricing out families that maybe able to now.....
Gotta feel for the Oakland fans actually living in Oakland. Plus not sure Vegas would have a huge population that would care a whole lot about sport at least, where the oakland fans have been extremely loyal.But why would anyone be frustrated if it doesn't effect them personally? See you called it a franchise not a sporting club - which says straight away its about business. The owners of the Warriors in 2010 paid a then record $450mil for an NBA franchise/licence. Its a private ownership system league and the private owners have the right to make a decent return on equity and they are also spending $1 bil on a new stadium, which they believe will give the owners the best chance to get a better return on their investment, after they pay off the $1 bil stadium, and to make $$$ to pump into a wining team year in year out. NFL stadiums have been getting bigger capacity, whereas NHL, MLB and NBA stadiums haven't been getting bigger but smaller and more facilities since the early 1990's when all 4 North American sports went into expansion mode. That is their system and their marketplace, so I just don't see why an Aussie sports fan would get frustrated about the way they run their businesses ie leagues.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/38262946
Yeah I feel for all fans who have a team moved away from their city and moved to somewhere the owners reckon they will do better or new owners buy a team with the express purpose of moving them. But they are always realistic possibilities when you barrack/support a team that is privately owned and you have no real input into decisions the owner's and management make.Gotta feel for the Oakland fans actually living in Oakland. Plus not sure Vegas would have a huge population that would care a whole lot about sport at least, where the oakland fans have been extremely loyal.
Still would be a great away trip for travelling fans.
Gotta feel for the Oakland fans actually living in Oakland. Plus not sure Vegas would have a huge population that would care a whole lot about sport at least, where the oakland fans have been extremely loyal.
Still would be a great away trip for travelling fans.
Chelsea have been looking to redevelop for years - there was talk ages ago that they were going to knock down the Earls Court and rebuild there but nothing happened of it.Thought we should have a thread where we can note new proposals and things for stadiums overseas.
Ill kick it off with Chelseas proposal for Stamford Bridge
A few NRL clubs are privately owned.Yeah I feel for all fans who have a team moved away from their city and moved to somewhere the owners reckon they will do better or new owners buy a team with the express purpose of moving them. But they are always realistic possibilities when you barrack/support a team that is privately owned and you have no real input into decisions the owner's and management make.
I have a Canadian mate who grew up a mad ice hockey fan in Thunder Bay, moved to Toronto in his early 20's, but then by the time he got to 30 he lost his passion for ice hockey ( and other professional sports), because he saw how the game changed so much and it was all about the business side of things and not the sports side of things. He still watches the scores and is interested in the business type decisions made, as he worked in senior marketing roles for large corporations and ran a regional division of software firm in Dallas for most of this century, before starting up his own business, but he just can't watch with any great passion he reckons. He is intrigued by the Oz sports community club aspect of teams that play in our different national leagues and he wonders how long they can ignore private ownership, especially the 2 big leagues of AFL and NRL as other national leagues have gone the private ownership route.
Indeed, but it is still the minority and when we first started talking about it it was only 2, Brisbane and Melbourne.A few NRL clubs are privately owned.
The AFL's want to control as much as possible and the failed Edelsten experiment play their part for our code. But as you say, it will be interesting what the future holds.
NZ Warriors?Indeed, but it is still the minority and when we first started talking about it it was only 2, Brisbane and Melbourne.
Ok, I probably was wrong all those years ago, as I thought they originally were run by a partnership involving the NZRL body.NZ Warriors?
They've just about always been privately owned, including a Maori tribe at one point!
It is frustrating when a franchise which has completely sold out their last 200 games in an arena of about 1500 more, can you not see what is wrong with that? 1500 fans are going to miss out on watching their side every single home game and it's built on the pure greed that they will be able to add more to the price of their seats and pricing out families that maybe able to now.
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I understand your point of view to an extent. But have you checked the cost of a season ticket for the warriors at oracle?
Check stubhub. The cost of tix to a warriors home game is insane. Hate to burst your bubble but it ain't like successful NBA teams are handing out discounted seats to working class families.
And as for the 200 plus sell outs. As soon as the Curry and co winning run dries up so to will the run of sell out home games.
Warriors need to maximise profits and opportunities for better facilities while the iron is hot. Moving across the bay also makes it more attractive to future players to join the club. They can live in San Fran and be close to the stadium.
It ain't great for an east bay fan, but how many Oakland families could seriously afford season tickets at oracle at the moment?
Yeah, tickets aren't cheap, believe me I know but it was a bucket list item that I had to check off, but still, at the end of the day 1500 people are going to miss out to every single home game, no matter how ever you spin that it is terrible for fans who love love sport.
Golden State have an extremely good record of their fans turning up even when they are loosing with a lot of sell out and close to capacity for most games even back in the days where they were a struggling franchise and as for the location, yes moving across the bay will be a great move for the franchise, but it is hardly like Oracle is out in the burbs, it's really just over the bridge or a little train ride away
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