Prediction New Senior Coach

Who should be appointed our new coach from 2020 onwards?

  • Sam Mitchell

    Votes: 41 14.2%
  • Paul Roos

    Votes: 8 2.8%
  • Brett Ratten

    Votes: 30 10.4%
  • Horse Longmire

    Votes: 41 14.2%
  • Adam Kingsley

    Votes: 5 1.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 103 35.6%
  • Adam Simpson

    Votes: 26 9.0%
  • Alistair Clarkson

    Votes: 35 12.1%

  • Total voters
    289

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Barassi Scowl

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If your source's claim is true that we were very confident it would suggest that Longmire had agreed in principal or had given indication that he would give it strong consideration. If that was the case why did he sign so quick with Swans?

Horse was already in negotiations with the Swans when we enquired and with Pickers grubby hands all over it, we were leveraged. I dont think all the noise surrounding Longmire is a bad thing for us as it is a distraction for Archer's around Australia door knocking tour.

Keep your eyes on the road Rhonda as they say. :moustache:
Sources? You mean 3AW rumourfile?
 

Thewlis Dish

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No - if he finds another job then he doesn't get paid 'twice' - that's the arrangement in AFL contracts.

Doing 'the right thing by the club' would be agreeing to forego the final year of his contract full stop irrespective of whether he finds alternative employment in the AFL.

If he seeks payment in full for 2020 because he can't find another gig then he hasn't done anything 'right be the club'.
He could have sought a payout immediately. If he gets another job at the end of the year, he's given up extra money with us and we've saved money too - we're not trading him to another club here.

Why would anyone willingly give up $750k? I sure as hell wouldn't. Expecting anyone to just give up money out of some moral obligation is unrealistic.
 

shimaburnsgrieg

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He could have sought a payout immediately. If he gets another job at the end of the year, he's given up extra money with us and we've saved money too - we're not trading him to another club here.

Why would anyone willingly give up $750k? I sure as hell wouldn't. Expecting anyone to just give up money out of some moral obligation is unrealistic.
I agree with you - Bard is entitled to every cent we signed him up to - but let's not have this...I will look after the club...nonsense.

If he demands a full pay out he is looking after himself - not the club.
 

JeanLucGoddard

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Aug 21, 2018
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That article says Longmires kids are in their academy
Thank God, I would hate them to be lost to footy like Nick Blakey would have been without the Swans Academy.

In our 150th year as a club, I think it is important we recognise the sacrifices made by the Sydney Swans to grow the game in New South Wales.

I mean, what have WE ever done?
 

Thewlis Dish

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Thank God, I would hate them to be lost to footy like Nick Blakey would have been without the Swans Academy.

In our 150th year as a club, I think it is important we recognise the sacrifices made by the Sydney Swans to grow the game in New South Wales.

I mean, what have WE ever done?
We actually damaged the game in the ACT by having Rawlings keep Judd to seven touches.
 

danj

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Rad Roo

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The rejection by horse now clears the way for shaw to take over. We need to start looking inwards, atm we are still under the impression that the expertise we need have not arrived yet but we are not bothering to look at what's in the cupboard. This is a typical little club syndrome in that it reflects a lack of clear system and faith in our system. You will see this in other industries as well, when an organisation is in the formative stages, it would easily fall prey to lure of experts from outside, we are kind of still in a trance of messianic desiring for deliverance when the real deliverance is to fully trust ourselves. Our desire to target the 'big' players, the big named coaches all reflects the uncertain club mentality where we already have the cattles but Brad Scott didnt have enough confidence to utilize them. Once again, we have been rejected and this is actually wonderful news in that sometimes, the best way forward is when there is no way back. If we somehow landed a Longmire, Clarkson, Simpson then its the mick malthouse at carlton all over again in that we expects the Messiah to deliver but he is a mere mortal with flaws and this merry venture would implode on itself and we would have waste 5 to 10 years.
 

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Orange Peanut

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"If Scott doesn’t secure a senior job for next year, he would have to be paid out for 2020."

Say what?
Not so sure about that.

An article that appeared in the week of Brad leaving said that we had agreed to terms (as in paid out a re-negotiated contract), but that if Brad doesn't get a job with an AFL club in 2020, his original wage will have to be accounted for in our soft cap.
 

BigRedRoo

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May 17, 2006
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I think Shawey need to take us to the finals to get the gig. Tough but doable.
I'd be happy with that as long as they compliment him with a number of highly experienced assistant coaches.

BigRed
 

sbdan

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Very big chance this happens
Seems like shaw has been suggesting that this would be a good idea all along. He has publicly stated he has already been picking roos brain.

Roos has been stating in the media that he is not interested in coaching, but is open to a managing/mentoring role. He likes our list.

Shaw and roos are good mates and go way back. Just make it happen.
 

Brufen

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May 18, 2006
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Should be interviewing Scott Burns, John Barker, Dean Soloman, Caracella, Longmuir and Chris Newman along with Shaw of course
No self respecting, aspiring senior coach is going to go through the interview process knowing that Shaw is a candidate. No need for interviews.


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