New Zealand v South Africa (3 T20s, 3 ODIs, 3 Tests)

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The Saffas are well on top now, with the lead already over 200 and only 3 wickets down.

Can't see NZ chasing anything above 300 down in the 2nd innings and the Saffas look set for a lead of at least 300 here, most likely 400 or more.
 

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To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure Trent Boult is ready for Test cricket just yet, he had some good results against Zimbabwe but the Saffers are a different kettle of fish and he is being carved up a little here. It just releases the pressure that Martin, Southee, Bracewell and Vettori can build
Not sure about him building any pressure.
 

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They have to have a better option than Southee going around, surely.

What is that Adam Milne kid like?

Kyle Mills not a Test option anymore?
 

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Providing there isn't time lost tomorrow with rain or bad light NZ might give this total a shake, especially if Taylor and McCullum can stick around for another session or two.

It's so weird seeing people lining up to buy coffee at a game of cricket.
Probably drinking coffee to keep warm.

They have to have a better option than Southee going around, surely.

What is that Adam Milne kid like?

Kyle Mills not a Test option anymore?
I think Mills is an ODI only bowler these days.

Probably better off sticking with the younger Southee but he has been a bit disappointing after looking the goods early in his test career.
 

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Anyone see the 'DRS' SA wasted on McCullum in the final session ?
It was reasily the worst waste of a DRS I've ever seen.The ball clearly hit McCullum around the shoulder,with his hand or bat nowhere near.It was caught in slips and SA appealed and it was turned down.They used a DRS and were made to look massive idiots.As the commentators said,how did the bowler [Morkel] not clearly notice it was nowhere near his hand or bat.
 

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Oh I realised the coffee would be for that, just thought it's funny as over here we generally associate the game with hot weather. I think it was Ian Chappell that said Dunedin was by far the coldest place that he ever played.
 

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Well the rain has taken NZ out of the game. Provided they start again (which is doubtful), only a trademark NZ collapse can gift South Africa victory.

Hopefully the pitch in Hamilton isn't so flat. NZ aren't going to roll South Africa for 230 on a flat deck every time. There's a bit of a push for Nethula to play, but I'd think the tiny boundaries might keep him out. Unleash him in the West Indies in August.
 
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Well the rain has taken NZ out of the game. Provided they start again (which is doubtful), only a trademark NZ collapse can gift South Africa victory.

Hopefully the pitch in Hamilton isn't so flat. NZ aren't going to roll South Africa for 230 on a flat deck every time. There's a bit of a push for Nethula to play, but I'd think the tiny boundaries might keep him out. Unleash him in the West Indies in August.
Game is over - draw. Now that the test players have been over there longer they might improve for the next game which means NZ will find them more competitive.

Steyn looked well down on form, their batting picked up in the second dig but they rely a lot on Philander. Maybe SA has more batting depth but both bowling line-ups on a par.

This series could go down to the wire.
 

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A shame that the last day was washed out as it was set for an interesting finish.

I think NZ would probably be happier with the draw than SA given the position they were in.
 

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Lame ending. It may have been Wishful thinking, but I reckon NZL might have made it interesting.

It also Means that England will Definitely end the Cricket year on the top and therefore get a big healthy pay check.
 

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No suprise to see Southee boned for the 2nd Test.In come Mark Gillespie,Brent Arnell and Tarun Nethula [spinner].
Not really surprising. Arnell looked like a poor mans McGrath last time I saw him, and is 33 with an average of 55.

Nethula showed a bit in the ODI's that I saw but unless they serve up a dry spinning track they wouldnt hardly play him with Vettori in the side you'd think.

Gillespie I can't recall much about, but looking at the stats it hardly seems worth selecting a 32 year old medium fast bowler with an average pushing 35. Looks like he just picked up 10 for the match in the Plunket the other day, so I guess they are rewarding first class form, whcih given Southee's form of late is understandable.

I seem to recall a left arm quick who bowled around the 145 mark, who was around the squad a year or two ago, I think he played against us in the ODI's and then got injured, anyone else recall him? Or am I just getting old?
 

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Not really surprising. Arnell looked like a poor mans McGrath last time I saw him, and is 33 with an average of 55.

Nethula showed a bit in the ODI's that I saw but unless they serve up a dry spinning track they wouldnt hardly play him with Vettori in the side you'd think.

Gillespie I can't recall much about, but looking at the stats it hardly seems worth selecting a 32 year old medium fast bowler with an average pushing 35. Looks like he just picked up 10 for the match in the Plunket the other day, so I guess they are rewarding first class form, whcih given Southee's form of late is understandable.

I seem to recall a left arm quick who bowled around the 145 mark, who was around the squad a year or two ago, I think he played against us in the ODI's and then got injured, anyone else recall him? Or am I just getting old?
You're thinking of Andy McKay. He played in the ODIs recently. He's not a Test bowler, far too erratic.

Good move to axe Southee IMO. Good to see the new selectors having the courage to make changes. Gillespie is an interesting one. He's not going to blast the South Africans out but might do a good holding job if it's another flat deck. I'd play Arnel for sure, though.

Good to see Nethula in the squad, but I can't see him getting a go until the West Indies tour later this year.
 

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Gillespie is a trier, but they are truly scraping the barrel if he is on the cusp of selection for their Test team.

We should donate a few of our state bowlers to them along with Ronchi. :p Magoffin is one who would quite comfortably be the leader of their attack.
 

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You're thinking of Andy McKay. He played in the ODIs recently. He's not a Test bowler, far too erratic.

Good move to axe Southee IMO. Good to see the new selectors having the courage to make changes. Gillespie is an interesting one. He's not going to blast the South Africans out but might do a good holding job if it's another flat deck. I'd play Arnel for sure, though.

Good to see Nethula in the squad, but I can't see him getting a go until the West Indies tour later this year.
Thats who it is...... he's pushing 31 as well. There seems to be a few slow bowlers of potential around but not much in the quick department. Southee has potential but sooner or later he has to start delivering, in tests he is toothless, whereas in the ODI's he can be a match winner. He really needs to translate his form over.

For years its been the batting thats been the struggle for the Kiwis, thats sort of turned on its head now. They appear to at least have a steady top order, apart from Nicol, and a keeper who can handle the bat. Now they just need to figure out how to take some wickets
 
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