NEW ZEALAND vs ZIMBABWE SERIES (1 Test, 3 ODIs, 2 T20)

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no it isn't

but is is their fault that we have Bangladesh in a position as they are and every associate team in the world going backwards to the point that countries such Candana and Netherlands are nearly to the point that Cricket won't exist in 10-15 years

lets not even talk about how diabolical their treatment of ireland has been
Don't make me cry.
 

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I think they'll stick with the 4 quicks plus vettori for some time
Southee's going to have to start taking a hell of a lot of wickets to down that shocking average of 41. Hasn't had a real good showing with the ball since his debut seemingly, and with the likes of Neil Wagner, Adam Milne and Matt Henry performing in the Plunket Shield, he's got to step up.
 

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Southee's going to have to start taking a hell of a lot of wickets to down that shocking average of 41. Hasn't had a real good showing with the ball since his debut seemingly, and with the likes of Neil Wagner, Adam Milne and Matt Henry performing in the Plunket Shield, he's got to step up.
Agreed totally. I want to see Southee actually swing the ball against South Africa for him to justify his place in the Test side beyind that series. I was all for him getting an extended run when he first came into the side, but it's time to see some results.

For the record, I'd like to see us stick with four quicks for the South Africa series. We keep hearing that NZC wants plenty of grass on the tracks and this would definetly be playing to our strengths at the moment. I know South Africa's seamers are amazing, but the lower scoring the matches are, the bigger chance we are. We're going to struggle to post 300 in any conditions against their attack, so I think it's our best chance.

Will be great to see some grass at Seddon Park and the Basin after a few years of pretty flat stuff.
 

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For the record, I'd like to see us stick with four quicks for the South Africa series. We keep hearing that NZC wants plenty of grass on the tracks and this would definetly be playing to our strengths at the moment. I know South Africa's seamers are amazing, but the lower scoring the matches are, the bigger chance we are. We're going to struggle to post 300 in any conditions against their attack, so I think it's our best chance.

Will be great to see some grass at Seddon Park and the Basin after a few years of pretty flat stuff.
I reckon if Adam Milne (bowling right now in the Ford Trophy preliminary, absolutely outdoing the Auckland batsmen) or Matt Henry have some good returns under their belt from the Plunket Shield throw them in the mix too, which will put a bit of pressure on all the seamers to keep performing. When South Africa have Steyn and Morkel we're at least going to need one seamer who can rough their top order up a bit too.....I'd say the chances of a green track at Seddon Park would be quite good seeing the endless stretch of rain and 25 degree days that the North Island has got from Central Districts up. I'd like to see a track like Napier's in Wellington, one with plenty on offer for the bowlers, but if you get yourself in you'll be able to score big. The whole of the middle to lower south has had very little rain at all this summer (Bar the last week and a bit) and most days the mercury hit the 30 degree mark or roundabout, so if that stretch continues I can see a batsmans paradise for the Dunedin test.
 

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There's no such thing as a great innings against the Zimbots; even Hayden's 380, nobody really cares about it too much.

They aren't up to scratch, and shouldn't be playing against Test nations.

Bangladesh aren't much better, if they are at all.

All this talk of 'expanding the game' is all well and good but all it does is lower the standard of cricket overall, and the quality of the game suffers.

When New Zealand makes 370+ and a guy like Nicol makes such a big score you know the game isn't at 100%.
 

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There's no such thing as a great innings against the Zimbots; even Hayden's 380, nobody really cares about it too much.

They aren't up to scratch, and shouldn't be playing against Test nations.

Bangladesh aren't much better, if they are at all.

All this talk of 'expanding the game' is all well and good but all it does is lower the standard of cricket overall, and the quality of the game suffers.

When New Zealand makes 370+ and a guy like Nicol makes such a big score you know the game isn't at 100%.
fair enough pal,i still like him as a batsman and we will see if he can produce against south africa later this month.
 

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fair enough pal,i still like him as a batsman and we will see if he can produce against south africa later this month.
I guess so mate!

I miss the days where at least Zimbabwe had the Flower brothers and Heath Streak playing...a few talented boys there.

Now they have Taylor and besides that diddly squat. Their spinners are a little overhyped for mine and Taibu is majorly inconsistent.
 

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Exactly. Considering how benign the pitches are in Zimbabwe it was always going to be a hell of an adjustment. I'd have expected better from Brendan Taylor than what he's shown though, considering he's had 3 months here already.

And none of the "when New Zealand does ___ against you, you're crap" lines being trotted out. We just beat you in a test before you went to roll India (admittedly, they're good on paper, sh*t on grass ;)), so we can't be in a position that low you can treat us like we're the West Indies :p.
 

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Its going to be quite some time before Zimbabwe are competitive in any form of cricket against any of the 8 test nations that arent Bangladesh

1 off test matches at home is the way to go, or just mere Zimbabwe A tour matches will hopefully bring them up to speed over time
 

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Well I guess at least they fought this match out a bit in the end.. was looking to be very embarrassing there at one stage.
 

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I watched most of the NZ innings, Zimbabwe's fielding was atrocious. Like, seriously bad, how are these blokes playing international cricket?

Another cool ground though, I love these obscure, intimate NZ grounds. :thumbsu:
 

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Another good win - but of course anything less would be a bad result against this Zimbabwe side in these conditions (which were very flat, although still a bit too much bounce for them).

South Africa will be an almighty task though. If Oram gets caught on 20 and Latham gets caught early on, it can be a much different story against top sides. I hope Nethula gets another oportunity in the 3rd match. He didn't bowl as poorly as his figures suggest, beat the edge a few times and had some inside edges trickle down to fine leg. Would love to see a little more flight against a side that really isn't going to tear you apart.

Good to see another international venue broken in as well. Beautiful ground and surroundings. For a place with a population of about 50k I think, it was a fantastic crowd. Obviously well promoted by NDCA.
 

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Awesome scenery, could easily distract me from the cricket.
Thats the loss of Australian sport playing games in the big cities

You dont see anything outside from the concrete jungles

I think Cairns and Darwin hosting top end test matches in winter provided some good scenery
 

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Southee's going to have to start taking a hell of a lot of wickets to down that shocking average of 41. Hasn't had a real good showing with the ball since his debut seemingly, and with the likes of Neil Wagner, Adam Milne and Matt Henry performing in the Plunket Shield, he's got to step up.

Did you see McClenaghan bowling against CD ?. Hes very rapid for a left armer. I wish they had a speed radar on as both he & milne were getting it through. The keeper was standing miles back

With as you say Wagner, Milne & Henry also coming through, NZ cricket has a pretty promising set of quicks in the wings.

I agree re Southee too..hes had a long enough apprenticeship now, its time for some results to come through.He's shows glimpses of it, but no consistency.
 

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On the grounds subject, we are blessed with boutique grounds from top to bottom. Cricket is as ingrained in New Zealand's culture as rugby is, so wherever New Zealand play people will come and watch, except perhaps tests ;). Queenstown's ground....You need to go there to take in the surroundings and the cricket. Pictures cannot do it justice. As a resident of Wanaka (Queenstowns little brother type town of 7000, 60km up the road on the shores of another lake) every summer for 16 years, I say that begrudgingly :thumbsu:.

Did you see McClenaghan bowling against CD ?. Hes very rapid for a left armer. I wish they had a speed radar on as both he & milne were getting it through. The keeper was standing miles back.
McClenaghan did look rapid. Shame he's an Aucklander. As a Cantabrian I'm not going to say nice things ;).
 

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McClenaghan did look rapid. Shame he's an Aucklander. As a Cantabrian I'm not going to say nice things ;).[/quote]

no wonder you go for the red & blacks in the AFL too !

He played for CD a year or so ago too didnt he ?. then had a bad injury. If he stays fit he could be anything ..
 
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