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Bodozoka - I reckon we will see a reverse of that trend in the later games of the year with teams welcoming the bye and playing well afterwards.

Personally i stand by my assertion that we will be advantaged by the bye given the style of game we play and the fact that our team was looking tired the last couple of weeks.

I'm more worried about us being smashed by Carlton at Etihad - though they do play Sydney the week before us and if we remember what happened to us against Sydney - we were very sore after that game.
 
Every week a team with a bye the previous week has lost. We won after the bye because we played Melbourne, who were also coming off the bye (obviously that's not the only reason but it's what may skew the statistic).
 
10 Losses and 4 Wins.

It may not make teams loose games but it certainly doesnt help teams win games either.

Seriously the below games show the bye is not an excuse at all. It's a total coincidence, no team can be using the bye as an excuse besides maybe those who had it in Round 2/Round 3. Had Geelong lost the tight ones against Collingwood and Geelong, had Fremantle won at the MCG where historically they have an awful record at, had Essendon beaten a Melbourne who by many are rated an ordinary side, the rubbish bye statics wouldn't be brought up at all, it's just media bringing up useless facts to develop discussion and excuses.

We should be fresh after the bye and if anything have the advantage. I'm not sure about you but I will be bitterly disappointed if we where to drop this game (I always am when we lose but this is a game that we just should find a way to win). I believe if we're to play finals and dare I say pinch a home final this is a MUST win game and should be an easier game than an unpredictable St Kilda at Ethiad and an unpredictable Brisbane at the GABBA.

And as I said in a previous post, Geelong aren't going to win every game, unless you're suggesting they'll lose their games to teams like Melbourne at Skilled Stadium. They also have an easy draw but they will lose eventually and this is just about the hardest fixture on Geelong's schedule other than maybe a Hawthorn/Collingwood/Carlton blockbuster.

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Games played by teams coming off the bye. Winner in bold & Team coming off bye in Italics.

Round 2: Gold Coast vs Carlton - Obvious, self explanatory should not be counted toward the 10-4 statistic.

Round 3: Adelaide v Fremantle - Adelaide beat an inconsistent Hawthorn who where just getting their game plan right and because of this upset everyone said they are top 8 material. Look at their list, look at how they've been playing since and they never really got their act together, they upset Hawthorn and where beaten by a better side on paper. Also worth noting it was a horrible time of the season to be given a bye. Should not be counted toward the 10-4 statistic.

Round 4: Fremantle vs North Melbourne - Fremantle win by 29 points at Subiaco Oval which is about an expected winning margain. Also makes the 10-4 bye statistic rubbish.

Round 5: Brisbane vs St Kilda - Both played off a bye & St Kilda is a better team

Round 5: Fremantle vs Western Bulldogs - At the time everyone was expecting the doggies to be better, but in the last 10ish weeks, they've proven they're not even close to being the side they where last year. Fremantle wins by 29 points, probably should have won by more.

Round 6: West Coast vs Melbourne - We are a better team than Melbourne playing at home. Obvious

Round 6: Sydney vs Carlton - Played at the SCG, Sydney beaten by a Judd-onslaught. Probably the one game where a team was expected to win off the bye however Carlton is also one step above Sydney.

Round 7: Port Adelaide vs Hawthorn - Hawthorn wins coming off the bye against a team that is plain terrible even if it is at AAMI.

Round 7: Geelong vs North Melbourne - Did anyone seriously not expect Geelong to win this? Are they Bye-Hungover? 55ish point win suggests otherwise.

Round 7: Richmond vs Fremantle - Given Fremantle's start to the season and Richmond still not being rated by anyone they come in as favourites. Terrible record at the MCG and go down to a much-improved side.

Round 8: Collingwood vs Geelong - Collingwood was a poor umpiring decision away from winning but still a top of the table game and a 3 point loss. Should not be counted toward the 10-4 bye statistic as this game was a game which could have gone either way.

Round 9: Carlton vs Geelong - Carlton was a straight kick away from winning against a side which is probably 2% better than them. Once again should not be counted to the 10-4 bye statistic, could have gone either way.

Round 10: Gold Coast vs Geelong - Despite Gold Coast's first half fight did anyone REALLY think they where going to win even if they didn't have the bye the week before? Once again makes the 10-4 bye statistic rubbish.

Round 11: Essendon vs Melbourne - No Jobe, No Essendon. They're probably a side on par to Melbourne right now. But whatever they're off the bye.

Round 12: Sydney vs Richmond - Sydney win by a couple of goals, at home and are a better side on paper anyway.
 

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The timing of our games has been awful really.

We played Essendon when they were on song and still playing above themselves.
Then we play Gold Coast once they have a bit of self belief and Ablett is in form
Then we play Collingwood who had 2 down weeks just previous to playing us.
Now we have to play St Kilda who are finally starting to hit their straps.

All teams have up and down weeks. You could say we faced North Melbourne, Melbourne, Fremantle and Adelaide at the right time, so it evens up.
 
Definitely a season defining month.
Port - should be a win

Carlton - very tough over there, they have quality mids and lots of matchwinners. Having said that, I'd love to beat them over there, a sneaky chance.

Geelong - quite interesting, I believe we can win. We played well against home and away last yr; we stuck with them but it was always Ablett who was too good a kicked crucial goals to get them the win. No Ablett this time, can we win? We have a chance but we need to be at the top of our game.

Saints - a good chance to win this one, but we must be wary.
 
We are incredibly crap at stopping small forwards, carlton will absolutely smash us. Garlett will kick 5

Geelong? Tough for same reasons. Believe we're more chance there than the blues, 50 50

Should win the other 2 really if we're serious about playing finals
 
Early days, always hard to predict that far ahead, but if we remain relatively injury free, we should host a home final, another win or two on the road will defiently help our cause
 
2 from 4 would be great

Would leave us 9-6 with a easy run towards the finals playing all the teams currently below us on the ladder
 

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I'm no so confident.

There warming up to their best each week, by the time we play I think they'll be in pipping hot form, it will be a tough game to win

you reckon?

thought they were bog average on friday night

sure they won - but the football was shit
 
Really depends if we show up for it, the worst game we played was vs Essendon we just didnt show up at all.

We are a chance for anyone.. I just dont wanna go down to saints.
 
Lets not get ahead of ourselves with the port game. It's at home yeah, but can somebody please just MAN UP davenport when he comes on? Kind of getting sick and tired of that c**t.

I think the carlton game will be one hard knock, i can imagine us lowering our colours by quite a few goals to be honest. There midfield is too good. Fingers crossed though eh?

Geelong game is the next winnable after port i think. Like a few people have already mentioned, we almost beat them last year as the spoon team AND the still had ablett. Different circumstances i know, but i really don't rate there team this year. Couple of flukey wins. Just my opinion.

Saints is the next hardest after carlton, you just don't know what sort of saints team will rock up for that one. And we could play bad. Hopefully they are still playing muppets like Raph Clarke, Baker, Schneider or Gram ;)

All winnable games if we can use our forward press PROPERLY for 4 qtrs. No idea how hard it is to maintain but the last time we really used it to great success was the bulldogs game. Collingwood, Suns and Adelaide games were blah.
 

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dont buy into the bye thing..
anyway apparently we're a bit weary now..along with all the other teams i suspect (certainly those specialising in pressing)

port...we have to win this one,and dont underestimate them.
carlton...cant see that happening.
geelong...unlikely - we did take it up to them last year as wooden spooners,which is more than some teams did, so at home it just MAY be possible...and what a great win that would be! different coach..and its not malthouse?
St.Kilda..we have to win this...but then so do they?

the last bye leading into the business end of the season, so maybe woosha has some ammo he's been saving ,in his bag of tricks,apart from emac and waters...something thats capable of slaying giants?

unless weve been overamped and oversold,and our wheels suddenly come off towards the business end..we should squeeze into the final(s)
 
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Games played by teams coming off the bye. Winner in bold & Team coming off bye in Italics.

Round 2: Gold Coast vs Carlton - Obvious, self explanatory should not be counted toward the 10-4 statistic.

Round 3: Adelaide v Fremantle - Adelaide beat an inconsistent Hawthorn who where just getting their game plan right and because of this upset everyone said they are top 8 material. Look at their list, look at how they've been playing since and they never really got their act together, they upset Hawthorn and where beaten by a better side on paper. Also worth noting it was a horrible time of the season to be given a bye. Should not be counted toward the 10-4 statistic.

Round 4: Fremantle vs North Melbourne - Fremantle win by 29 points at Subiaco Oval which is about an expected winning margain. Also makes the 10-4 bye statistic rubbish.

Round 5: Brisbane vs St Kilda - Both played off a bye & St Kilda is a better team

Round 5: Fremantle vs Western Bulldogs - At the time everyone was expecting the doggies to be better, but in the last 10ish weeks, they've proven they're not even close to being the side they where last year. Fremantle wins by 29 points, probably should have won by more.

Round 6: West Coast vs Melbourne - We are a better team than Melbourne playing at home. Obvious

Round 6: Sydney vs Carlton - Played at the SCG, Sydney beaten by a Judd-onslaught. Probably the one game where a team was expected to win off the bye however Carlton is also one step above Sydney.

Round 7: Port Adelaide vs Hawthorn - Hawthorn wins coming off the bye against a team that is plain terrible even if it is at AAMI.

Round 7: Geelong vs North Melbourne - Did anyone seriously not expect Geelong to win this? Are they Bye-Hungover? 55ish point win suggests otherwise.

Round 7: Richmond vs Fremantle - Given Fremantle's start to the season and Richmond still not being rated by anyone they come in as favourites. Terrible record at the MCG and go down to a much-improved side.

Round 8: Collingwood vs Geelong - Collingwood was a poor umpiring decision away from winning but still a top of the table game and a 3 point loss. Should not be counted toward the 10-4 bye statistic as this game was a game which could have gone either way.

Round 9: Carlton vs Geelong - Carlton was a straight kick away from winning against a side which is probably 2% better than them. Once again should not be counted to the 10-4 bye statistic, could have gone either way.

Round 10: Gold Coast vs Geelong - Despite Gold Coast's first half fight did anyone REALLY think they where going to win even if they didn't have the bye the week before? Once again makes the 10-4 bye statistic rubbish.

Round 11: Essendon vs Melbourne - No Jobe, No Essendon. They're probably a side on par to Melbourne right now. But whatever they're off the bye.

Round 12: Sydney vs Richmond - Sydney win by a couple of goals, at home and are a better side on paper anyway.

This post is a terrific example of why stats alone don't provide the true picture.

I am in the camp that says the bye is no excuse for a loss. It is an opportunity to refresh, overcome a few niggles and so on - it is not an excuse for a loss.
 
Geelong have to lose eventually I think the WC game will be their first loss.

Port - Win
Carlton - Loss
Geelong - Win
St Kilda - Win
 
by most people apparently thinking we're going to beat the cats, you know, the team whos 11-0, and has beat Collingwood, Carlton and Hawthorn (x2)

They could have easily lost 3 of those 4 games. Playing WCE at Subiaco is as hard a challenge as playing any of those teams at The G plus Geelong will lose sometime.
 
This post is a terrific example of why stats alone don't provide the true picture.

I am in the camp that says the bye is no excuse for a loss. It is an opportunity to refresh, overcome a few niggles and so on - it is not an excuse for a loss.

agree..i can see where posters are coming from, but its not rational, verges on superstition..youd think it would be a welcomed and planned for break, with a program already in place to launch into the 2nd half of the season..
and if the eagles do come back and lose one or two,well..its just coincidence or chance? (can probably find a run whereby teams have come back after a bye and won?)..anyway hope we do win..and win..and win.
 

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