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Hank93

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I think most of the highly credentialed assistants will all have strong nous on strategy and tactics.

I want someone who can be strong, tough and ruthless when it comes to selection and list management but also deliver the message so he commands the respect of the playing group. Back in the youngsters, look at the Dogs. It's not going to just fall apart if you play players under the age of 22.

We will never get to a premiership with the gold passes handed out. We will never know what Walsh had in store for the future but even he failed to drop VB, Mackay and Wright while he was here.
 

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This gets the pragmatist in me thinking. Would I rather the Crows to play a nice attractive style of footy, or play an ugly defensive style but win a premiership? I'll take the premiership thanks. The asterisk there, however, is that highly defensive gameplans have only recently netted flags in 2005 and 2012, both to the red-and-white team whose name will not be mentioned.
 

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This gets the pragmatist in me thinking. Would I rather the Crows to play a nice attractive style of footy, or play an ugly defensive style but win a premiership? I'll take the premiership thanks. The asterisk there, however, is that highly defensive gameplans have only recently netted flags in 2005 and 2012, both to the red-and-white team whose name will not be mentioned.
We need to strive for both - Attractive attacking footy with ruthless team defense. We had that in rounds 1 and 2 of this season so we've shown that we're capable of it. So how do we get back to that and deliver it on a weekly basis?
 

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We need to strive for both - Attractive attacking footy with ruthless team defense. We had that in rounds 1 and 2 of this season so we've shown that we're capable of it. So how do we get back to that and deliver it on a weekly basis?
At least we know the list is capable of that balance. Get rid of four or five spuds, making way for better players (we'll just go to the footballer shop for that :p). Do that and nail the coaching appointment and we're golden, theoretically. Realistically, cleaning out the list is easier said than done and the committee will have to think long and hard about this appointment. But what gives me cause for optimism is that this Crows side is capable of playing good football. The thing that gives me cause for pessimism is that we just don't upset top-4 sides anymore.
 

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Cvs are bullshit.

Its only when the pressure is on do you see the true value of any individual, be it a coach or player.

From what I've seen of campo under pressure, I think he just isn't ready to be a head coach.

Campo strikes me as a coach that plays the percentages and does the expected. This is even more evident when under pressure.

Perhaps this will change with experience, but I'm not sure this is the type of coach we need at the moment.
Couldn't agree less. Senior coach isn't just about selection and game day. They run the whole program, the job starts as soon as they get the gig, not on the Thursday before the first PS game. This is where a candidate's CV is important and it's not like the padded dribble that ordinary job applicants can attempt to get away with. They need to have experience as a coach at some level in at least a semi successful program. Game day tactics is only a small part of the gig.
 

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Couldn't agree less. Senior coach isn't just about selection and game day. They run the whole program, the job starts as soon as they get the gig, not on the Thursday before the first PS game. This is where a candidate's CV is important and it's not like the padded dribble that ordinary job applicants can attempt to get away with. They need to have experience as a coach at some level in at least a semi successful program. Game day tactics is only a small part of the gig.
If a coach can excel under pressure, when it counts most, I'm pretty sure he'll be able to our a successful program together.

Whereas I have no confidence in the reverse happening.

The ability to critically think when the pressure is on, is exactly the cornerstone of a good coach.
 

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Can't say I agree with delisting Thommo. Irrespective of age, he's still one of our best performing mids.

Agree somewhat with the rest, Martin and Wright may have some 'steak knives' trade value, at least worthy of asking the question.

Think Sam Shaw is in a bit of trouble too.

Contracted until end 2015
Scott Thompson (10+ yrs)

Patrick Dangerfield (8yrs)
Cameron Ellis-Yolmen
Matthew Wright
Mitchell Grigg
Sam Kerridge
Andy Otten
James Podsiadly
Riley Knight
Kyle Hartigan (anyone clarify?)
Matt Crouch
Sam Siggins
Rory Atkins
Tom Lynch
Jack Osborn
Sam Shaw
Brodie Martin
Anthony Wilson (rookie)

Reilly O'Brien
Keenan Ramsey
Jake Kelly

Delist - Wright this year, VB next and MacKay in 2017

I would delist the players in bold. 6 senior listed players and 1 rookie.
 

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Purposefully playing "attractive" football shouldn't be anywhere near a coach's list of KPIs.

It's a bit like that old saw "nothing tastes as good as looking good." (There's one for your wives, boys...)

Nothing's as attractive as winning.
This was Walshy's paradox

Refreshingly said there are no moral victories, only losses

At the same time said he wanted to win playing attractive Danger v Fyfe footy

Which sounds fine except he also said if you have to play unattractive, backwards and sideways footy to win then he didn't want to be involved

For me, nothing beats winning no matter how it looks
 

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Remember how Walshy blew away Fages and Roo with his live coaching of a quarter of us v Richmond?

I wonder if there's someone who can do that again. Surely now that it's common knowledge it will be the required standard from clubs, and potential coaches would have trained themselves to be able to do it?
 

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And the long-serving AFL club administrator does expect Adelaide to again ask Goodwin to coach the Crows, just as it did twice last year when Goodwin chose to move from Essendon to Melbourne rather than return to West Lakes.
Rucci says we'll be asking Goodwin to coach again after asking him twice last year before settling for Walsh. Does this happen anywhere but inside his mind?
 

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Lets just cross all our fingers and toes that Worsfold gets the fire in the belly the next 5 weeks. Lets just hope with him being in a footy club environment again he gets hungry. HOPE!!!!!!!!!
 

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See ball, get ball, see middle of white sticks put ball through middle of white sticks.


Rinse and repeat.


I broke it down like coaching the u8s. Maybe that's what our next coach has to do.
 

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I suppose what Walsh thought of Campo would go a long way to helping/hindering his chances of getting the head coaching job, regardless of how well or bad the team performs.

If Walsh wanted to replace him at the end of the year because he didn't think he was good enough, then you'd think Roo and Walsh wouldn't even consider him for the head job.
 

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I suppose what Walsh thought of Campo would go a long way to helping/hindering his chances of getting the head coaching job, regardless of how well or bad the team performs.

If Walsh wanted to replace him at the end of the year because he didn't think he was good enough, then you'd think Roo and Walsh wouldn't even consider him for the head job.
He wouldnt have even got the care taker role if they knew Walsh wanted him gone.
 
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