Next Generation academy

[Vader]

1996 utube gf video shows it as his 201st match

This is consistent with REH's post, stating that the the 1995 GF was his 177th game. Both totals (1996/201 & 1995/177) include Foundation Cup games, which the AFL doesn't recognise, leaving him well short of 200 in the specified time frame.

 

[Squiba]

200 Club Members was brought in, in the 1960's as a way to give some benefits to players, a bit of a pension fund, not much, but WAFL, SANFL and VFL all introduced one in the 1960's. 200 games included games in the premiership season + night series/preseason games + state games.

Edit - the VFL and WAFL kept the club games between premiership and preseason games separate, but the SANFL blended them together, and thats why the mistake was made in 2001 when the AFL meet to make rules for the SANFL and WAFL games played in those 2 comps.

VFL Life membership was always 300 premiership season games which had added benefits over 200 Club Members. The AFL Life membership rules 10-15 years ago was changed to include in the 300 - premiership season games + night/preseason games + state games + international rules series games. Then a few years ago they added up playing totals and coaching totals so if you got to 300 games you were included. Life membership now means 2 free tickets to the GF.

Borlase had played 177 games according to the 1995 SANFL GF Budget I dug up, and he didnt play in the GF. Port played 26 eligible games in 1996, so given he played 10 years of Foundation Cup games between 1985 and 1994, it looks like he probably played about 180 eligible games by 31/10/1996 and isn't an eligible father under AFL rules, and son James will have a choice to join your NGA if offered a spot.

Thanks a million for your input, really appreciate it.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

The worst part is the 200 game player we chose with the lost 3rd round father/son pick that year - Dmac

Why would we only give up a 3rd? Wouldn't we need to use the first available pick?

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

Why would we only give up a 3rd? Wouldn't we need to use the first available pick?

At that point in time a F/S only cost a 3rd round pick. Cats got Ablett Jr for a 3rd rounder.

 

[1990crow]

Sounds like a Port champions son is coming to us. Love it! And he sounds like a gun too.

 

[Bearded Clam]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...s/news-story/945be9792a77af6b7e7bbb921633fc5a

Rucci’s first of probably many whinge articles about borlase decision...

From the article;
“Borlase was credited with 201 SANFL senior games when he played in the 1996 SANFL grand final – the cut-off for father-son picks for Port Adelaide that joined the AFL in 1997. But the AFL has stripped these 201 matches back to 177 by taking out Escort Cup games that are counted by the SANFL but not the national league’s scrutineers.
This puts James Borlase, a member of the AFL’s Australian under-15 team last year, well out of contention for father-son eligibility.
For the Power and Crows to qualify for a father-son pick in the AFL draft system, the father must have played 200 or more SANFL games – a qualification rule that tripped up Adelaide’s wish for Gibbs in 1996 when he became the No. 1 pick at Carlton.

Port Adelaide has challenged the AFL’s ruling since June last year.

Power football chief Chris Davies told The Advertiser the AFL’s count on Borlase’s games record could not be challenged further, regardless of the debate on why the SA-based AFL club have a 200-game qualification rule while it is 100 VFL games for the Victorian-based clubs.”

End quote/




So Port have known about this since last June and have been quietly fighting it behind the scenes for nearly a year and failed to shift the AFL...

Dear kochie, Rucci and port,
Would you like some sauce with that s**t sandwich?..
Regards
Crow supporter

 

[1990crow]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...s/news-story/945be9792a77af6b7e7bbb921633fc5a

Rucci’s first of probably many whinge articles about borlase decision...

From the article;
“Borlase was credited with 201 SANFL senior games when he played in the 1996 SANFL grand final – the cut-off for father-son picks for Port Adelaide that joined the AFL in 1997. But the AFL has stripped these 201 matches back to 177 by taking out Escort Cup games that are counted by the SANFL but not the national league’s scrutineers.
This puts James Borlase, a member of the AFL’s Australian under-15 team last year, well out of contention for father-son eligibility.
For the Power and Crows to qualify for a father-son pick in the AFL draft system, the father must have played 200 or more SANFL games – a qualification rule that tripped up Adelaide’s wish for Gibbs in 1996 when he became the No. 1 pick at Carlton.

Port Adelaide has challenged the AFL’s ruling since June last year.

Power football chief Chris Davies told The Advertiser the AFL’s count on Borlase’s games record could not be challenged further, regardless of the debate on why the SA-based AFL club have a 200-game qualification rule while it is 100 VFL games for the Victorian-based clubs.”

End quote/




So Port have known about this since last June and have been quietly fighting it behind the scenes for nearly a year and failed to shift the AFL...

Dear kochie, Rucci and port,
Would you like some sauce with that s**t sandwich?..
Regards
Crow supporter

Oh, snap. Rucci mad. Delicious and satisfying given his involvement with Gibbs.

 

[Stiffy_18]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...s/news-story/945be9792a77af6b7e7bbb921633fc5a

Rucci’s first of probably many whinge articles about borlase decision...

From the article;
“Borlase was credited with 201 SANFL senior games when he played in the 1996 SANFL grand final – the cut-off for father-son picks for Port Adelaide that joined the AFL in 1997. But the AFL has stripped these 201 matches back to 177 by taking out Escort Cup games that are counted by the SANFL but not the national league’s scrutineers.
This puts James Borlase, a member of the AFL’s Australian under-15 team last year, well out of contention for father-son eligibility.
For the Power and Crows to qualify for a father-son pick in the AFL draft system, the father must have played 200 or more SANFL games – a qualification rule that tripped up Adelaide’s wish for Gibbs in 1996 when he became the No. 1 pick at Carlton.

Port Adelaide has challenged the AFL’s ruling since June last year.

Power football chief Chris Davies told The Advertiser the AFL’s count on Borlase’s games record could not be challenged further, regardless of the debate on why the SA-based AFL club have a 200-game qualification rule while it is 100 VFL games for the Victorian-based clubs.”

End quote/




So Port have known about this since last June and have been quietly fighting it behind the scenes for nearly a year and failed to shift the AFL...

Dear kochie, Rucci and port,
Would you like some sauce with that s**t sandwich?..
Regards
Crow supporter

What goes around, comes around!

Rucci could not advise the AFL quick enough regarding Gibbs’ eligibility and now he gets to see a son of one of Port’s favorite sons play who the team he despises.

Oh the irony!

 

[Shaz2012]

Imagine Port finishing wooden spooners in a year when Borlaise is the number 1 draft prospect.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Imagine Port finishing wooden spooners in a year when Borlaise is the number 1 draft prospect.

They would bid on him and we would have to pay through the nose!

 

[Bearded Clam]

I posted this in the comments on the Rucci article I meantion above... hasn’t got past the mods yet..


“He’s a highly regarded young player apparently... Under 15 AA team.. both his mum and dad are champions of their chosen sports... so very good pedigree!...
Wow, port would be utterly filthy over this!... ahahahahahah ead ahahahahahaha..
And how ironic after it was the author of this article that ran to the AFL all those years ago to dob in Adelaide over Bryce Gibbs and his father not having played enough games to qualify for F/S.. which saw Carlton get him instead.
Karma..”

I wonder if they find the sly “ead” in between my laughing...

 

[GrommoT]

...
So Port have known about this since last June and have been quietly fighting it behind the scenes for nearly a year and failed to shift the AFL...

Dear kochie, Rucci and port,
Would you like some sauce with that s**t sandwich?..
Regards
Crow supporter

That's no biggie though ... roaches live on s**t

 

[GrommoT]

They would bid on him and we would have to pay through the nose!

If he's good enough we'll very likely have to pay through the nose regardless who has the early picks

... and we'll gleefully do it too, I think, since we normally wouldn't get a sniff at an early pick - hopefully it will be the year after Luke Edwards' draft year.


Cripes ... just read the Age article and looks like Borlase & Luke will both be in 2020 draft (assuming they don't raise the draft age).

 

[Doctor B]

Ross Gibbs
Glenelg 1984-1994, played 253 games at the Bay, 2 premierships, represented Australia in International Rules 1987, 1 state game.

I'm sure Rucci reads BF. You found the loophole didn't you Rooch?
We missed out on Bryce.
You reap what you sow, what goes around comes around, how about you get what you deserve?

 

[mattymac]

Ok, but how many games did dad play before 1870?

 

[GrommoT]

Ross Gibbs
Glenelg 1984-1994, played 253 games at the Bay, 2 premierships, represented Australia in International Rules 1987, 1 state game.

I'm sure Rucci reads BF. You found the loophole didn't you Rooch?
We missed out on Bryce.
You reap what you sow, what goes around comes around, how about you get what you deserve?

 

[mattymac]

The irony here is actually hilarious.

One of my fave threads already.

 

[119others]

Oh, snap. Rucci mad. Delicious and satisfying given his involvement with Gibbs.

Time to go to work in the comments section on The Advertiser article. This is true karma for the unfashionable limp one.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

What are the odds that he'll choose to be part of our academy though? Port might miss out but doesn't mean we'll get him.

 

[Cap]

So its approved as in the AFL cant screw us in two years?

If so that has to the funniest thing i have ever read.

 

[GrommoT]

What are the odds that he'll choose to be part of our academy though? Port might miss out but doesn't mean we'll get him.

Yeah, we'll need to keep a lid on it until it's a done deal.


... or not.

Spoiler

 

[Cleric]

What are the odds that he'll choose to be part of our academy though? Port might miss out but doesn't mean we'll get him.

Would he rather stay in SA or end up at a basket case club interstate? Im sure his mum will want him close.

 

[Bearded Clam]

What are the odds that he'll choose to be part of our academy though? Port might miss out but doesn't mean we'll get him.

You’d think being at Sturt he’d have a few mates there and we’ve got a few young Sturt players in our next gen academy already so he’d be around familiar faces if he joined us..

Also.. If he, and his parents, want him to stay in SA... Their best guarantee of making that happen is with him joining adelaide.. they being the only ones that can make that happen for him... it’s either that or he goes in the draft and could end up anywhere...

 

[Cap]

Why would we have bothered seeking approval if he hadn't already said he'd do it.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Would he rather stay in SA or end up at a basket case club interstate? Im sure his mum will want him close.

nothing is guaranteed.