Next Generation academy

[I Lost My Keays]

Wrong thread?

Yeah wrong thread hahaha

 

[jo172]

Rucci's own "clarification" coming home to roost is delicious

 

[119others]

They would bid on him and we would have to pay through the nose!

Not sure this is correct.

Isn’t it the same situation as Blakey and the Swans this year ? They will only need to give up first round draft pick (with perhaps drifting latter picks) even if he is bid early in the draft and they are premiers ie it’s an absolute bargain

 

[El Doederino]

Sliding Doors time

If ...
Rucci hasn’t interfered and Gibbs signed for the Crows as a f/s

Then ...
Port would have a precedent to allow Borlase to be considered a Port f/s

So, yeah, it’s all your fault Rooch.

 

[Huntercrow]

93 seems right, but this video could be all confirmation bias?

Was that our former CEO commentating?

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...s/news-story/945be9792a77af6b7e7bbb921633fc5a

Rucci’s first of probably many whinge articles about borlase decision...

From the article;
“Borlase was credited with 201 SANFL senior games when he played in the 1996 SANFL grand final – the cut-off for father-son picks for Port Adelaide that joined the AFL in 1997. But the AFL has stripped these 201 matches back to 177 by taking out Escort Cup games that are counted by the SANFL but not the national league’s scrutineers.
This puts James Borlase, a member of the AFL’s Australian under-15 team last year, well out of contention for father-son eligibility.
For the Power and Crows to qualify for a father-son pick in the AFL draft system, the father must have played 200 or more SANFL games – a qualification rule that tripped up Adelaide’s wish for Gibbs in 1996 when he became the No. 1 pick at Carlton.

Port Adelaide has challenged the AFL’s ruling since June last year.

Power football chief Chris Davies told The Advertiser the AFL’s count on Borlase’s games record could not be challenged further, regardless of the debate on why the SA-based AFL club have a 200-game qualification rule while it is 100 VFL games for the Victorian-based clubs.”

End quote/




So Port have known about this since last June and have been quietly fighting it behind the scenes for nearly a year and failed to shift the AFL...

Dear kochie, Rucci and port,
Would you like some sauce with that s**t sandwich?..
Regards
Crow supporter

Isn’t it 200 Games because Adelaide and Port have more clubs from which to draw players from, since they’re only divided amongst 2 teams, not 10 like in Victoria.

 

[philthy05]

Genuine question. Why do crows fans think they should have had access to the son of a West Australian footballer who never donned a crows guernsey?

The only stake you had on him was the arbitrary splitting of sanfl clubs if I’m not mistaken.

 

[FantasticShirt]

Genuine question. Why do crows fans think they should have had access to the son of a West Australian footballer who never donned a crows guernsey?

The only stake you had on him was the arbitrary splitting of sanfl clubs if I’m not mistaken.

Because.

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

Sliding Doors time

If ...
Rucci hasn’t interfered and Gibbs signed for the Crows as a f/s

Then ...
Port would have a precedent to allow Borlase to be considered a Port f/s

So, yeah, it’s all your fault Rooch.

Maybe show this to Barrett, so he can try and understand what a sliding doors moment actually is!

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

Genuine question. Why do crows fans think they should have had access to the son of a West Australian footballer who never donned a crows guernsey?

The only stake you had on him was the arbitrary splitting of sanfl clubs if I’m not mistaken.

We don’t make the rules, but if they happen to benefit us (such as in this scenario), we’d be stupid not to take advantage of it, as would any other team in this position.

 

[philthy05]

Isn’t it 200 Games because Adelaide and Port have more clubs from which to draw players from, since they’re only divided amongst 2 teams, not 10 like in Victoria.

RussellEbertHandball

Could probably elaborate but apparently they did the sums and worked out that the potential pool of f/s and worked out x amount of games = the same size pool.


The calculations were made including Pre season games which were then removed which decreased the pool and screwed us over.

w***ers

 

[AFC3000]

I can only imagine the amount of clarification Rucci is currently seeking.

Might have to tune in to his next AA spot.

To the port board...

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[ad victoriam]

They would bid on him and we would have to pay through the nose!

Not necessary depending on where they finish, as we get a 20% discount they would have to finish bottom 9 to force us to use 2 picks.
If he not worth a 1st round then the Crows will pass.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Not necessary depending on where they finish, as we get a 20% discount they would have to finish bottom 9 to force us to use 2 picks.
If he not worth a 1st round then the Crows will pass.

That’s all true. I quoted someone who said something along the lines of imagine Port finish wooden spooners in a year Borlace is rated as the #1 pick!

In that scenario, Port would bid and we would match using multiple picks if we do decide to match (which in the scenario above we would)!

 

[GrommoT]

So where's James at now? Has he joined the Crows NGA? If he does/has join, do Crows automatically have first rights to draft him or do they still have to have his agreement (like a nomination)?

Last para in Rucci article.
"Adelaide has pre-listed Borlase for drafting by using the “next generation” rule that was written to encourage AFL clubs to invest in developing overseas-born talent"
So I believe he is in agreeance.

Rucci article is the one posted by the bearded one?

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[GrommoT]

Not necessary depending on where they finish, as we get a 20% discount they would have to finish bottom 9 to force us to use 2 picks.
If he not worth a 1st round then the Crows will pass.

We'll be looking at draft Luke Edwards in 2020 and both could be end up being 1st round worthy ... we'll probably have to dip into 2021 draft points.

But boy, this is exciting!

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[RussellEbertHandball]

RussellEbertHandball

Could probably elaborate but apparently they did the sums and worked out that the potential pool of f/s and worked out x amount of games = the same size pool.


The calculations were made including Pre season games which were then removed which decreased the pool and screwed us over.

w***ers

When the AFL looked at this in 2001 they tried to do a smoothing exercise and came up with the average number of blokes who played 100 games for a VFL club = approx the number of blokes that played for 5 SANFL clubs who played 200 games for each of the 2 lots of SA clubs = aprox the number of guys who played for 4 WAFL clubs who played 150 games for 2 lots of WA clubs.

It wasn't the value a game in one league was worth more than an another. It was purely a numbers equalisation policy that had many holes in it because the AFL said there was a 20 year eligibility period to count the games of the father and then a 20 years sunset clause on drafting the son for the WA and SA clubs but not Vic clubs.

And stupidly no one picked up that Adelaide were disadvantaged by 1 year. The crows eligible father had to play their games before they entered the comp and Freo WCE and Port could count the first year they were in the comp that the fathers games in the local league counted ie Eagles 1987 was first year but 1987 WAFL games counted, Freo 1995 and Port 1997. The Crows couldn't count 1991 SANFL games for their potential fathers.

It was a ****en farce along with the SANFL not realising they counted night series/preseason games in their totals and the WAFL and VFL didn't.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Genuine question. Why do crows fans think they should have had access to the son of a West Australian footballer who never donned a crows guernsey?

The only stake you had on him was the arbitrary splitting of sanfl clubs if I’m not mistaken.

You’re sounding a little bit filthy phil...

 

[Bicks]

So his Dad John played for the Roos and the Lions and Nick is eligible for both clubs through the father/son clause yet he has chosen to play for the Swans through his Swans Academy eligibility...of course father John is an Assistant coach at the Swans.

 

[Crow till I die]

I posted this in the comments on the Rucci article I meantion above... hasn’t got past the mods yet..


“He’s a highly regarded young player apparently... Under 15 AA team.. both his mum and dad are champions of their chosen sports... so very good pedigree!...
Wow, port would be utterly filthy over this!... ahahahahahah ead ahahahahahaha..
And how ironic after it was the author of this article that ran to the AFL all those years ago to dob in Adelaide over Bryce Gibbs and his father not having played enough games to qualify for F/S.. which saw Carlton get him instead.
Karma..”

I wonder if they find the sly “ead” in between my laughing...

This could be a very interesting scenario if live trading is up and running (not 100% sure how it would play out). Imagine if borlace is one of the top rated talents how much port might be prepared to offer to take him on the night..that being said i would be a bit careful in taking borlace if there is a chance he wants to end up playing at port as he could walk out at the end of his 1st contract

 

[dogs105]

Genuine question. Why do crows fans think they should have had access to the son of a West Australian footballer who never donned a crows guernsey?

The only stake you had on him was the arbitrary splitting of sanfl clubs if I’m not mistaken.

They are part of our heritage. We were formed from the 10 SANFL clubs. The team for all South Australians.

 

[Bearded Clam]

So his Dad John played for the Roos and the Lions and Nick is eligible for both clubs through the father/son clause yet he has chosen to play for the Swans through his Swans Academy eligibility...of course father John is an Assistant coach at the Swans.

Top 3 pick??... really?... sounds like they’ve chucked a heap of mayo on it..

 

[Scorpus]

Genuine question. Why do crows fans think they should have had access to the son of a West Australian footballer who never donned a crows guernsey?

The only stake you had on him was the arbitrary splitting of sanfl clubs if I’m not mistaken.

Why do Port fans think Darryl Borlase's son should be eligible for Port Adelaide under the father son rules when Darryl never played for Port Adelaide*?

*he played for Port Adelaide in the SANFL, which is not the same club as Port Adelaide in the AFL

 

[SaltPeter]

Isn’t it 200 Games because Adelaide and Port have more clubs from which to draw players from, since they’re only divided amongst 2 teams, not 10 like in Victoria.

Not sure, the WA teams have 150 games rule I believe

 

[Bearded Clam]

This could be a very interesting scenario if live trading is up and running (not 100% sure how it would play out). Imagine if borlace is one of the top rated talents how much port might be prepared to offer to take him on the night..that being said i would be a bit careful in taking borlace if there is a chance he wants to end up playing at port as he could walk out at the end of his 1st contract

If he walks to port, and he’s a great player, 2first rounders thank you..

But really, he’s at Sturt now, his old man might have played for Port decades ago but that doesn’t mean he, or his parents, desperately want him to go to port to th point where that would be their plan.. has his old man even had any association with port since he left?..

For all we know.. the young fella could be a crows fan..