Next Liberal leader - 2025

[Dazzler9]

Whoever takes the reins is destined to be the next Brendan Nelson.

 

[DaRick]

In all seriousness, how is Tim Wilson regarded in VIC (assuming he wins Goldstein)?

Could he win back the teal seats, or is he damaged by his own idiocy + association with ScoMo? Will that even be a consideration come 2028?

 

[western royboy]

In all seriousness, how is Tim Wilson regarded in VIC (assuming he wins Goldstein)?

Could he win back the teal seats, or is he damaged by his own idiocy + association with ScoMo? Will that even be a consideration come 2028?

The Prayer Room

 

[DaRick]

The Prayer Room

So Victorians tend to see him as a joke, not a serious potential opposition leader?

 

[western royboy]

So Victorians tend to see him as a joke, not a serious potential opposition leader?

Look it’s a field of folks with skeletons or just incompetence. Wilson is IPA and a very poor loser. He would be excellent as a permanent opposition leader.

 

[Leon]

Do people think Wilson will win in Goldstein?

 

[western royboy]

Do people think Wilson will win in Goldstein?

Literally Knife Edge - 100 votes in it at this stage

 

[DaRick]

Someone else on Goldstein:

In Goldstein they have counted 10k of the 14k of postal votes received so far. Tim Wilson is wining them convincingly. However, Daniels should do better on the absentee votes than Wilson. Also the later received postal votes tend to be slightly less conservative – early postal votes are old people in the area, later ones are postal votes of people who are away somewhere else AKA younger people.

It'll be touch and go.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

Violi is a genuinely nice guy but not sure how he’d garner the support amongst the party.

Pleasant enough but as far as I can tell hasn’t been put in front of the camera at all. He’s more of a slow burn that I can’t see challenging for another election cycle or two.

I think it was Saint that I recall mentioning on this board that they'd actually spoken to Violi and while he seemed like a nice enough person, he had 20 year backbencher written all over him. Labor's seasoned front benchers would probably make mince meat of him.

And while from his photos he looks like a kid, he's already in his 40s. Not ancient by any stretch, but probably a fair bit older than people think.

 

[Sqotty from office works]

The libs earmarked Dan tehan for a leadership role a few years ago and sent him away to some international think tanks.
A complete failure, and no hope of leading anything with purpose.

Hastie has some kudos.

 

[Saint]

I think it was Saint that I recall mentioning on this board that they'd actually spoken to Violi and while he seemed like a nice enough person, he had 20 year backbencher written all over him. Labor's seasoned front benchers would probably make mince meat of him.

And while from his photos he looks like a kid, he's already in his 40s. Not ancient by any stretch, but probably a fair bit older than people think.

I did say that. And it's not because of his intelligence, I think he's smarter than Dutton, Abbott, Morrison. But I doubt he's bloodthirsty enough to fight people like that. To get ahead in the Liberal Party it seems like intelligence and the inability to be a hypocrite is a massive problem.

Also, how does one build a profile in the Liberal Party? Seems like repeated appearances on Sky News and nodding along with their stupidity is a pre-requisite.

And now, what power-base does he have? There are maybe 3-5 Liberals in Victoria, less than the number of Nationals. And that Lib figure includes Tehan. Violi is a small 'l' Liberal, he's got no chance in the current makeup of the LNP of being voted-in for anything.

Maybe he jumps on Tehan's coat-tails factionally for a few years.....Tehan won't have another challenger for a couple of elections. Violi is also marginal and slipping, in an electorate which has been 20% left of Labor (Greens and AJP) for decades.

 

[Saint]

I've met Jason Wood too. Violi is smarter, Wood will get ahead in the LNP more than Violi.

That's the current state of the LNP leadership. Intelligence is a massive drawback.

Just to elaborate. Jason Wood is like the President of the footy club. Likes talking a lot, mixes metaphors, insists they're right without considering everything/anything.

Violi is more like the Secretary. The one who actually gets everything done, adjusts the Pres's decisions so they actually work, hard working.

The President takes all the praise.

 

[Gough]

Angus Taylor looks like he's going to be too tainted by his past.

 

[Saint]

Angus Taylor looks like he's going to be too tainted by his past.

The corruption which has been swept under the carpet will have to come out.

Wouldn't put it past the god-botherers in the LNP to start floating it out there in the coming weeks.

 

[kalex6251]

Angus Taylor looks like he's going to be too tainted by his past.

the knives are out for him .... and jane hume

will make for fun viewing

 

[Slax]

Ley would actually make things worse.
Taylor is a fool
Tehan is a Dutton clone
So out of that lot only left with Hastie.

If they could work out a way to get Andrew Bragg into the House he'd be a good choice.

The main thing is they need to move back from the right where Dutton & Morrison had them. If they stay there or worse think they need to move further right they are unelectable..

 

[Gough]

the knives are out for him .... and jane hume

will make for fun viewing

If all roads lead to Andrew Hastie he might want to clear up his thoughts on the whole creationism thing first.

 

[QuietB]

Make a Senate member leader so the Liberals don't stink up the house anymore.

 

[Golden_6]

I get the feeling they will just dump in a placeholder like Tehan or Taylor who will eventually be thrown to the wolves & knifed later on. Hastie will be the one that ultimately gets it but they might want a couple of years of keeping him away from the disaster that it currently is until it's time to campaign again.

 

[QuietB]

And so it begins lol

 

[Burro]

Ley would actually make things worse.
Taylor is a fool
Tehan is a Dutton clone
So out of that lot only left with Hastie.

If they could work out a way to get Andrew Bragg into the House he'd be a good choice.

The main thing is they need to move back from the right where Dutton & Morrison had them. If they stay there or worse think they need to move further right they are unelectable..

Well Ley could retire, and Bragg could run in a by-election... lol
I'm in Ley's electorate and on Saturday when I politely took the how-to-vote from a middle-aged woman looking very much like she does the flowers at the church, I said as I looked at the paper, "Oh, the invisible woman, lucky she popped up on the local news for 15 seconds on Friday because I was going to report her as a missing person". She looked like I just told her that her cat had died. The independent guy started laughing his head off.
Ley has done nothing for her electorate, even as the health minister. The hospital problem just got worse. She is a self-indulgent fool. The ALP will be laughing their arses off with any of these combinations.

 

[Carn The Berries]

And so it begins lol

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Also heard Hughes on ABC radio talking about mental health policies that she presented that got completely ignored. Definitely unhappy with the current leadership.

 

[Mofra]

Angus Taylor looks like he's going to be too tainted by his past.

Knives are already coming out from his fellow Libs.

He's always going to be "good job Angus" and the guy who opposed tax cuts.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

I can imagine them going Hastie thinking that his age will be their way to appeal to Millennial and GenZ voters... being completely oblivious to his politics being everything those generations keep rejecting.

And then if he fails Tim Wilson gets in and has the same problem.

I also think that being ex-military is also not a vote winner with millenials and gen z.

 

[schneebly111]

Reports of a Taylor (leader) Tehan (Deputy) McKenzie (Manager of Opp Business) “UNITY” ticket being put forward……