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Our supporters appear to be the worst of the lot.
That’s just a wild guess and not even close to being correct from my experience.

Every club has good and bad fans, however, supporters are still allowed to be disappointed.

There’s lines people obviously shouldn’t cross, but I haven’t seen that for the most part on here.
 

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A final is simply a final. No matter how similar the implications its a whole different ballgame.

In 2016 we had the potential to finish 2nd if results went totally our way, but ended up losing to Freo and dropping to 7th.

No that’s simply not true, the team couldn’t have moved from 7th regardless of the result and this was known by all before the game.

In 2015 there was a chance the team could have moved higher if other results were different when the side lost to a lowly Brisbane.


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I think if we fall to fifth and lose Week 1 finals (or clutch to a top four and lose in straight sets) we need to seriously consider whether Bevo is the man for the job. It's very common for a gameplan to become stale among a group or found out.

Excluding 2016, we have made finals 3 finals appearances, and lost in the first round every time; As well as not making the 8 in 2017 and 2018. If either of the above happens this year, our overall finals record would be 4-4 or 4-5 (excluding 2016 it becomes 0-4 and 0-5). This year will be our highest home and away finish in his time, and it's still looking more likely than not that it will be a 5th finish.
This list is alot better than a 5th-8th first week knockout list.
 
My issue with yesterday is that we would have lost to any side in the league. North would have smashed us, which was concerning.

A big week in terms of selection.
I’ve been saying this since the second North game. If any other team played us that day rather than North, we would have lost.
 
No that’s simply not true, the team couldn’t have moved from 7th regardless of the result and this was known by all before the game.

In 2015 there was a chance the team could have moved higher if other results were different when the side lost to a lowly Brisbane.


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Ok my mistake it was a possibility up until the second round
 
First things first, let’s not worry at all about margins and percentages. To do that assumes we lose and if we lose 3 games in a row going into the finals then it doesn’t really matter, we aren’t doing anything once we get there.

We have to win against Port. It’s on our home deck at Marvel where we play better than anywhere else so we should be expected to win. Yes if we bring the same attitude and approach that we brought to yesterday’s game then we aren’t winning no matter where it’s played but I fully expect a big turnaround and response from the whole team and led from the front by the Bont and our other leaders. Yesterday was totally unacceptable and I think the players all know that. The season is on the line and I am confident we will win.

However, it must start at selection. The Match Committee have been f**king around at selection for weeks now trying to be too cute and it has to stop now. Pick the best team, stop resting players and get the attitude right. Pick a proper ruckman and get some structure forward of the ball. Our defence has been put under too much pressure because our forwards haven’t been able to score when given the opportunity and our midfield has been slaughtered at clearances largely due to incompetent ruck work and unaccountable mids being far too aggressive and thinking they will win every contest. They have to help the defenders and stop the ball just waltzing out of the centre into the 6 on 6 open forward line.

All year we have defended well as a team but it relies on having the control of the midfield. This is where it starts and we must address this now.

Secondly, move Tim English forward for Christ’s sake. He is not a capable ruckman and is a massive part of the problem in the middle. He also looks tired again, same as this time last year. One handed half hearted attempts to stop opponents, unable to give extra effort. Put him up forward to help Naughton, and give Sweet a go if Stef can’t do it. We just have to have someone who can break even in the ruck. This is a non negotiable.

And finally our forwards have to take their chances when they come. Cody Weightman is the only reliable kick for goal at the moment and the only one that I expect to score a goal if he is having a set shot. Naughton has lost all confidence. This week at training that should be literally the only thing he does. Nothing else! Just kick from all over the ground and get some confidence back. Same with big Tim. Not sure about Jamarra at this point but so long as English plays forward I would probably give him the spot ahead of Hannan who doesn’t offer much at all.

It all starts at selection, get the team structure right first and then get the mindset right. I think if we fix those two things we are in a good position to beat Port. We are better than them, we just have to believe it and then play like we know we can.

I believe we can do it.

Go Dogs!!!!
 
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And while I’m at it, if Naughton is doing goal kicking practice, make it be with a man on the mark, not just kicking for goal with no one in front of him. The same for English. Sometimes they both seem to get too close to the man before they kick and it then causes them to pull the kick rather than kick straight through it.

It’s a simple thing but there is no point practicing just kicking with no one in front of you because that hardly ever happens in a game and especially to those two. They are usually taking set shots over a man on the mark so practice that way.
 

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First things first, let’s not worry at all about margins and percentages. To do that assumes we lose and if we lose 3 games in a row going into the finals and 4 of our last 5 then it doesn’t really matter, we aren’t doing anything once we get there.

We have to win against Port. It’s on our home deck at Marvel where we play better than anywhere else so we should be expected to win. Yes if we bring the same attitude and approach that we brought to yesterday’s game then we aren’t winning no matter where it’s played but I fully expect a big turnaround and response from the whole team and led from the front by the Bont and our other leaders. Yesterday was totally unacceptable and I think the players all know that. The season is on the line and I am confident we will win.

However, it must start at selection. The Match Committee have been f**king around at selection for weeks now trying to be too cute and it has to stop now. Pick the best team, stop resting players and get the attitude right. Pick a proper ruckman and get some structure forward of the ball. Our defence has been put under too much pressure because our forwards haven’t been able to score when given the opportunity and our midfield has been slaughtered at clearances largely due to incompetent ruck work and unaccountable mids being far too aggressive and thinking they will win every contest. They have to help the defenders and stop the ball just waltzing out of the centre into the 6 on 6 open forward line.

All year we have defended well as a team but it relies on having the control of the midfield. This is where it starts and we must address this now.

Secondly, move Tim English forward for Christ’s sake. He is not a capable ruckman and is a massive part of the problem in the middle. He also looks tired again, same as this time last year. One handed half hearted attempts to stop opponents, unable to give extra effort. Put him up forward to help Naughton, and give Sweet a go if Stef can’t do it. We just have to have someone who can break even in the ruck. This is a non negotiable.

And finally our forwards have to take their chances when they come. Cody Weightman is the only reliable kick for goal at the moment and the only one that I expect to score a goal if he is having a set shot. Naughton has lost all confidence. This week at training that should be literally the only thing he does. Nothing else! Just kick from all over the ground and get some confidence back. Same with big Tim. Not sure about Jamarra at this point but so long as English plays forward I would probably give him the spot ahead of Hannan who doesn’t offer much at all.

It all starts at selection, get the team structure right first and then get the mindset right. I think if we fix those two things we are in a good position to beat Port. We are better than them, we just have to believe it and then play like we know we can.

I believe we can do it.

Go Dogs!!!!
You’ve been a breath of fresh air in here this weekend. Thanks.
 
First things first, let’s not worry at all about margins and percentages. To do that assumes we lose and if we lose 3 games in a row going into the finals and 4 of our last 5 then it doesn’t really matter, we aren’t doing anything once we get there.

We have to win against Port. It’s on our home deck at Marvel where we play better than anywhere else so we should be expected to win. Yes if we bring the same attitude and approach that we brought to yesterday’s game then we aren’t winning no matter where it’s played but I fully expect a big turnaround and response from the whole team and led from the front by the Bont and our other leaders. Yesterday was totally unacceptable and I think the players all know that. The season is on the line and I am confident we will win.

However, it must start at selection. The Match Committee have been f**king around at selection for weeks now trying to be too cute and it has to stop now. Pick the best team, stop resting players and get the attitude right. Pick a proper ruckman and get some structure forward of the ball. Our defence has been put under too much pressure because our forwards haven’t been able to score when given the opportunity and our midfield has been slaughtered at clearances largely due to incompetent ruck work and unaccountable mids being far too aggressive and thinking they will win every contest. They have to help the defenders and stop the ball just waltzing out of the centre into the 6 on 6 open forward line.

All year we have defended well as a team but it relies on having the control of the midfield. This is where it starts and we must address this now.

Secondly, move Tim English forward for Christ’s sake. He is not a capable ruckman and is a massive part of the problem in the middle. He also looks tired again, same as this time last year. One handed half hearted attempts to stop opponents, unable to give extra effort. Put him up forward to help Naughton, and give Sweet a go if Stef can’t do it. We just have to have someone who can break even in the ruck. This is a non negotiable.

And finally our forwards have to take their chances when they come. Cody Weightman is the only reliable kick for goal at the moment and the only one that I expect to score a goal if he is having a set shot. Naughton has lost all confidence. This week at training that should be literally the only thing he does. Nothing else! Just kick from all over the ground and get some confidence back. Same with big Tim. Not sure about Jamarra at this point but so long as English plays forward I would probably give him the spot ahead of Hannan who doesn’t offer much at all.

It all starts at selection, get the team structure right first and then get the mindset right. I think if we fix those two things we are in a good position to beat Port. We are better than them, we just have to believe it and then play like we know we can.

I believe we can do it.

Go Dogs!!!!

Agree with basically all of this, but it won’t happen. We know our MC and coaching panel are set in their ways, unfortunately it’ll be Tim in the ruck, JJ forward (when he should’ve even be playing), Hannan wandering around having no effect on the game etc.

I’ll support the boys strongly on fri night and they might turn it around with their performance, but it’s asking to be let down to expect a different approach to selection and game plan.

Edit: presume it’ll be fri night, big game with top four implications and Melbourne playing today rules their game out.
 

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First things first, let’s not worry at all about margins and percentages. To do that assumes we lose and if we lose 3 games in a row going into the finals and 4 of our last 5 then it doesn’t really matter, we aren’t doing anything once we get there.

We have to win against Port. It’s on our home deck at Marvel where we play better than anywhere else so we should be expected to win. Yes if we bring the same attitude and approach that we brought to yesterday’s game then we aren’t winning no matter where it’s played but I fully expect a big turnaround and response from the whole team and led from the front by the Bont and our other leaders. Yesterday was totally unacceptable and I think the players all know that. The season is on the line and I am confident we will win.

However, it must start at selection. The Match Committee have been f**king around at selection for weeks now trying to be too cute and it has to stop now. Pick the best team, stop resting players and get the attitude right. Pick a proper ruckman and get some structure forward of the ball. Our defence has been put under too much pressure because our forwards haven’t been able to score when given the opportunity and our midfield has been slaughtered at clearances largely due to incompetent ruck work and unaccountable mids being far too aggressive and thinking they will win every contest. They have to help the defenders and stop the ball just waltzing out of the centre into the 6 on 6 open forward line.

All year we have defended well as a team but it relies on having the control of the midfield. This is where it starts and we must address this now.

Secondly, move Tim English forward for Christ’s sake. He is not a capable ruckman and is a massive part of the problem in the middle. He also looks tired again, same as this time last year. One handed half hearted attempts to stop opponents, unable to give extra effort. Put him up forward to help Naughton, and give Sweet a go if Stef can’t do it. We just have to have someone who can break even in the ruck. This is a non negotiable.

And finally our forwards have to take their chances when they come. Cody Weightman is the only reliable kick for goal at the moment and the only one that I expect to score a goal if he is having a set shot. Naughton has lost all confidence. This week at training that should be literally the only thing he does. Nothing else! Just kick from all over the ground and get some confidence back. Same with big Tim. Not sure about Jamarra at this point but so long as English plays forward I would probably give him the spot ahead of Hannan who doesn’t offer much at all.

It all starts at selection, get the team structure right first and then get the mindset right. I think if we fix those two things we are in a good position to beat Port. We are better than them, we just have to believe it and then play like we know we can.

I believe we can do it.

Go Dogs!!!!

Normally I would say that you are stating the obvious. But apparently not according to the match comitee.

I don’t get why we need to have 4-5 changes every week. We have used 41 players this year. The instability is one of our major problems.
 
Looks like its us vs Essendon week one of finals. Most likely played at the MCG because the AFL doesn't recognise Marvel as our home ground for finals. Do we go into that game as underdogs?
We have lost 3 at Mavel so I would prefer to play at the G these days. I think the open spaces is better for our forwards, ok Naughton and Weightman
 

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