Next year

[sinepari]

I know that it's early days, but im curious as to your opinions regarding who we might try and trade for next year. With wild rumours of fevola etc, and with those regarding Hansen, i'd love to hear some possible options and the reasons for them.
Cheers

 

[coasting]

I would much rather focus on trying to keep the players we have than bring in more guys.

 

[TheReason]

2 months ago, I would have said: Lets see what we can get for Kerr & maybe Gardiner....

Kerr + 1st Rounder for Fev or Tarrant?

The more and more I think about that, the more & more I think Fev & Tarrant are over-rated (Fev a loose canon) and would cost too much! And I'd like to keep Kerr.

I say keep the list as is.

I have high hopes / expectations that Lynch, very slowly and very gradually over the next 5 years, will become the dominant FF we have been praying for.

Doogs - Trade him for what we can get. Enough said.

The only player I would like to see us target heavily is Polak, whom, under the right coach, would develop into a premier CHB. I suppose in return Freo would want player / players and not a Draft Pick.

 

[Streaker]

Kerr for Polak?

 

[coasting]

Kerr for Polak?

The Shockers won't trade Polhack. Besides, he wouldn't last 2 minutes before he was in Woosh'a doghouse.

 

[TheReason]

The Shockers won't trade Polhack. Besides, he wouldn't last 2 minutes before he was in Woosh'a doghouse.

Thats what he needs.... a disciplinarian

 

[Au_Blue#24]

Kerr for Polak?

which part of our last game of footy did you not understand ??

 

[Streaker]

which part of our last game of footy did you not understand ??

The part where at least 40% of his disposals found their way into the arms of an opposition player and yet all anyone could talk about was how many possessions he got. It's great being able to get the ball but it is greater if when you dispose of the ball it goes to your teams advantage.

 

[Jimmy_the_Gent]

I like Streakers idea, I'd be pretty happy with a Kerr for Polak trade, although -and this is probably just my bias- I think Kerr is more proven and Freo would have to deliver a 2nd/3rd rounder to even things up. Then again a big is more valuable than a small so a straight swap wouldn't worry me.

I don't think Polaks recent off field problems wouldn't put a team off chasing him. Under Woosha he'll come good.

A good CHB and a fit FF are all we really need nowdays. Polak would cover the CHB and Between Smith, McDougall and Lynch FF would be covered.

It's nice to dream.

 

[hawkeye23]

The part where at least 40% of his disposals found their way into the arms of an opposition player and yet all anyone could talk about was how many possessions he got. It's great being able to get the ball but it is greater if when you dispose of the ball it goes to your teams advantage.

Finally, someone who saw the same game I did!

5. Cousins
4. Braun
3. Wirrpunda
2. Judd
1. Staker

Which was countered with:

No Kerr? You're joking?

To which I replied:

Too many clangers... I wanted to give him votes, but just couldn't. Every time I decided I would give him votes, he turned the ball over straight to an Essendon player! Will give him an honourable mention, but that's all I can do!

And was told:

We must have been watching different games.

Streaker, you have restored my faith in my own eyesight and judgement! Thank you!

 

[YAKUZA]

I would much rather focus on trying to keep the players we have than bring in more guys.

Except McDud of course!

 

[94_Eagles]

Under no cirumstances are we to trade for Polhack.

 

[YAKUZA]

The Shockers won't trade Polhack.

Dont have a huge wager on that, I'd say the chances that they will at the moment would be better than 70-30.

 

[94_Eagles]

I've worked at Subi Oval for the last 3 years and since 2003 every Docker, or Cameron Schwab who gets up to talk about the players is always saying 'Graham Polhack is going to be an absolute superstar for us,' and 3 years later they're still singing the same tune. It's 2005 and they really should be talking about how he's stepped up.

Too bad they're all deluded and can't realise how useless he really is. Hopefully it will kick in soon.

 

[YAKUZA]

Doogs - Trade him for what we can get. Enough said.

The only player I would like to see us target heavily is Polak, whom, under the right coach, would develop into a premier CHB. I suppose in return Freo would want player / players and not a Draft Pick.

A WCE supporter with commonsense.

Dont think they'd get much for McDud given that every other Recruiter except Woodhouse knew he was a marshmallow, but you never know sillier things have happened.
I reckon you're right re Polak and I have no doubt WCE will have a crack.

 

[94_Eagles]

If we recruit Polhack I'm tearing up my membership.

 

[YAKUZA]

If we recruit Polhack I'm tearing up my membership.

I have some Eagles friends two of whom are ex players and one of them a player of some note without giving too much away, who are saying similar things if they dont get rid of McDud!

 

[TheReason]

I don't understand....

why most say Polak is a hack???

He had a sensational debut year, and ever since, he has succumbed to the dreaded CC curse, "We shall ruin a player's confidence in any way we can, as we are the Fockers". He's been shifted forward, then back, then onto the bench, then forward, then back..... his development has gone backwards.

 

[coasting]

Players take time to mature mentally as well as physically mature. That was the problem with Lynch and is also the problem with McDougall, he probably has the mental maturity of a 15yo. In time, with the right guidance, i believe he can perform in certain roles at AFL level. Embley didn't start playing consistently well until he was 23 and I think McDougall will be the same and will have to go through all the things he did to make it at AFL level. Yakuza writing his epitaph is premature ejaculation.

Polaks problems are different, he doesn't have maturity issues, he has character issues. If you look through the archives you will see I was one of the first people to say he won't be anything special at AFL level. There is a reason for that and I can tell you that the latest media headlines are really just the tip of the iceberg. There is a reason why he was probably a better player 5 years ago than he is right now and it has nothing to do with the Fremantle Dockers. Sure, its not to late for him to turn it around but unless CC is sacked (which I don't believe he will be, regardless of position) I don't believe they will trade Polhack, and especially not to us under any circumstances.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

I don't expect WC to be very active in the post-season trading period.

If we were able to target a quality key defender then we should go for it, but this is unlikely, and I can't even think of anyone who would be on the table.

Kepler Bradley has been talked about, but it's highly unlikely.

Instead, I think we should try to keep our list together and continue building from the ground up.

Hopefully Smith will be in the mix next year, so talk of going after Fevola seems a little premature and unnecessary.

Kerr has been talked about as trade bait, and while I remain open to the prospect if the right deal came along (i.e. gun CHB), I don't think we should actively seek to trade him, nor accept any trade for Kerr that doesn't deliver us a ready-made, top-line player. On the whole, I think he'll stay put, and I'm happy with that outcome.

I don't really think we should trade McDougall. He's 21 and should be given at least one more year on the list. Unless another club makes us a ridiculously good offer (top 10 pick and another 1st rounder), we should hang onto him. Realistically, we probably wouldn't get much if we actively sought to trade him and he deserves one more year on the list.

The guys who I can see moving on are Josh Wooden and Rowan Jones. Both have 3-5 years left in them and might not want to stay at WC where there are limited opportunities. We could get 4th round picks for these guys.

 

[YAKUZA]

Players take time to mature mentally as well as physically mature. That was the problem with Lynch and is also the problem with McDougall, he probably has the mental maturity of a 15yo. In time, with the right guidance, i believe he can perform in certain roles at AFL level. Embley didn't start playing consistently well until he was 23 and I think McDougall will be the same and will have to go through all the things he did to make it at AFL level. Yakuza writing his epitaph is premature ejaculation.

Polaks problems are different, he doesn't have maturity issues, he has character issues. If you look through the archives you will see I was one of the first people to say he won't be anything special at AFL level. There is a reason for that and I can tell you that the latest media headlines are really just the tip of the iceberg. There is a reason why he was probably a better player 5 years ago than he is right now and it has nothing to do with the Fremantle Dockers. Sure, its not to late for him to turn it around but unless CC is sacked (which I don't believe he will be, regardless of position) I don't believe they will trade Polhack, and especially not to us under any circumstances.

McDud has the mental maturity of a 15yo! and you reckon that I'm hard on him? You have chosen two very poor comparisons in Lynch and Embley, if for no other reason both of those players have a big organ in their chest's called a heart. Granted Lynch is not the brightest star in the sky and Embley has the devil in him but to compare either of them to McDud is to do them both a great disservice and knowing Embley as I do I'm sure he'd snot you if you put it to him. As for your theory that McDud wont start playing consistently well until he is 23 and gone through all the things that Embley did, well in case you hadn't noticed he's a few days off 22 and can't even get a game. He's a non performing expensive mental squib whose place on the WCE list could and will be better filled probably even by my premature ejaculation!
Some of your comments re Polak are relevant but the simple fact about Polak is that had he gone to almost any other Club but the Shockers he would be a better and more mature player and I suggest a better person. Like Headland, at the Shockers he is in a comfort zone and will never be any good.

 

[Streaker]

The guys who I can see moving on are Josh Wooden and Rowan Jones. Both have 3-5 years left in them and might not want to stay at WC where there are limited opportunities. We could get 4th round picks for these guys.

Both of those players will be far superior to any 4th round pick you may get. Better off keeping them.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Both of those players will be far superior to any 4th round pick you may get. Better off keeping them.

We might not have a choice. These guys aren't getting games. They might want to go to another club. If that's the case, we should let them go and take whatever draft picks we can get in return.

 

[94_Eagles]

I don't understand....

why most say Polak is a hack???

He had a sensational debut year, and ever since, he has succumbed to the dreaded CC curse, "We shall ruin a player's confidence in any way we can, as we are the Fockers". He's been shifted forward, then back, then onto the bench, then forward, then back..... his development has gone backwards.

He didn't have a sensational rookie year, he's never done anything.

That's why he's a hack.

 

[Bomber1313]

He didn't have a sensational rookie year, he's never done anything.

That's why he's a hack.

1st year injured.
2nd year came top 3, prety sure top in most contested marks. yeh we would hate that!