Mega Thread Nick Daicos - Can he be the GTWEB? Part 2

[Mr Meow]

Different physical types.

Juddy arrived in the AFL physically outstanding in terms of pace, power and endurance and repeat efforts. Gaz just needed one preseason where he did enough work to have all three. Those two were really rare in that regard. Usually the powerful blokes need 5+ years to develop the endurance and repeat efforts to play midfield, eg - Petracca, Degoey, Heeney. Or the outstanding runners need that long to build up the strength to be good in a contest - Daicos, Holmes, McCluggage.

Nick arrived a skinny flanker and is gradually developing his strength. If his body holds up, like most players, he'll physically peak at about 28.

Fair enough.

I imagine Collingwood will try to keep contending around him like Geelong did all those years with Hawkins + Selwood (then Dangerfield + Cameron). I don't mean to stick the boot in but I'm less confident they can pull it off.

 

[Xtreme]

Yeah, a 'quiet' game for Daicos

'Only' 27 possessions and his team's best player.

And look at the pile on.

27 of the best look at me Ablett style 1-2 handballs you'll ever see. The greats like Voss, Acker, Hodge, Priddis, Dusty will their team over the line.

N.Daicos transforms into umpire gear and has hands on hips tantrums. Unwilling to do the hard yards.

Dud status confirmed.

 

[tigs2010]

McRae giving him how many votes we reckon?

2 or 3 ?

5

Clug only gets the 4 as they had a plan to tag him but the Pendles injury prevented it excuse was laid out

 

[sr36]

Not sure whether he is directed to simply skirt packs until the final siren, or if it’s just his natural game, but when your team isn’t winning first ball it’s extremely ineffective.
Clearly he is an offensive weapon, but in the context of this ridiculous thread, no GOAT is simply watching his team lose the game in a prelim from 6-8m off the contest.

It's a team game. We were behind and that's his role in our comeback mode. We load the midfield leaving ourselves exposed behind the footy and Nick and Jordy get goal side of the contest. Worked magnificently for a couple of years as teams in protect the lead mode didn't exploit the weakness behind the ball and when we did win it we had a couple of damaging players ahead of the contest. Brisbanes mids were too good and they are too well coached to just stop trying to score when protecting the lead. As you saw, we couldn't get it to Nick and they cut through the weakened defence.

 

[Lunchtime]

27 of the best look at me Ablett style 1-2 handballs you'll ever see. The greats like Voss, Acker, Hodge, Priddis, Dusty will their team over the line.

N.Daicos transforms into umpire gear and has hands on hips tantrums. Unwilling to do the hard yards.

Dud status confirmed.

I'm sorry but.......Priddis???

 

[Cdog71]

It's a team game. We were behind and that's his role in our comeback mode. We load the midfield leaving ourselves exposed behind the footy and Nick and Jordy get goal side of the contest. Worked magnificently for a couple of years as teams in protect the lead mode didn't exploit the weakness behind the ball and when we did win it we had a couple of damaging players ahead of the contest. Brisbanes mids were too good and they are too well coached to just stop trying to score when protecting the lead. As you saw, we couldn't get it to Nick and they cut through the weakened defence.

Selecting a player to for a tagging role, you probably went two midfield options down with Pendlebury breaking down.
Last few years you played a dedicated inside mid, not playing Mitchell this year seemed to work until last few rounds.
Would’ve been handy last night.

 

[Mr Meow]

Selecting a player to for a tagging role, you probably went two midfield options down with Pendlebury breaking down.
Last few years you played a dedicated inside mid, not playing Mitchell this year seemed to work until last few rounds.
Would’ve been handy last night.

They used Long. Maybe next time they'll go short.

 

[A Swallow]

It's a team game. We were behind and that's his role in our comeback mode. We load the midfield leaving ourselves exposed behind the footy and Nick and Jordy get goal side of the contest. Worked magnificently for a couple of years as teams in protect the lead mode didn't exploit the weakness behind the ball and when we did win it we had a couple of damaging players ahead of the contest. Brisbanes mids were too good and they are too well coached to just stop trying to score when protecting the lead. As you saw, we couldn't get it to Nick and they cut through the weakened defence.

I agree with this, I just think if he’s the player this thread is suggesting he is, surely if plan A isn’t working, you tell him to just go win you the game of football.
The likes of Judd/GAJ/Danger/Dusty that this thread is purporting Nick is at/above the level of, attack that ball and win you that game, or at least give you a chance, rather than spectating 6m away with the season on the line.

 

[jonnobackpocket]

Yeah, a 'quiet' game for Daicos

'Only' 27 possessions and his team's best player.

And look at the pile on.

Best player, what an absolute load of crap. Take away his kick ins, the running past his team mates for the easy possessions and the fact he was absent when the game was on the line and his pathetic tacking efforts fact is he had no impact. You want to suggest he is the GOAT and can’t even acknowledge when he sucks, credibility shot.

 

[sr36]

Fair enough.

I imagine Collingwood will try to keep contending around him like Geelong did all those years with Hawkins + Selwood (then Dangerfield + Cameron). I don't mean to stick the boot in but I'm less confident they can pull it off.

As always it'll come down to recruitment and development. Like the Cats, the Pies aren't into the get 50 games into them asap mentality. We'll play youngsters when we think they're ready rather than using the senior team as a development platform like a lot of teams do. There's a few I like. Hopefully we'll have a couple of players just arrive ready after a year or two in the ressies like Dempsey or O'Connor, rather than being faffed over for showing potential in the senior team but not really being ready to be solid players in a good team.

 

[Lunchtime]

This is something that hasn't been talked about enough:

Collingwood Form During 2025 Season

R1 to R18: 14 wins, 2 losses

R19 to PF: 3 wins, 6 losses

They peaked too early and/or they were front runners for most of the season but when other teams started playing better, they were found out. Collingwood in my mind were nothing more than a "good team" but nothing truly special either. Their form in the back-end of the season was garbage - in the end they were found out.

 

[jonnobackpocket]

Could have very well wrapped up the Fadgelow too.

To have 2 x Fadgelows in your first 4 seasons is unprecedented.

But he is the emerging GOAT.

What is the Fadgelow? Most overrated squib?

 

[Bulldog Joe]

Best player, what an absolute load of crap. Take away his kick ins, the running past his team mates for the easy possessions and the fact he was absent when the game was on the line and his pathetic tacking efforts fact is he had no impact. You want to suggest he is the GOAT and can’t even acknowledge when he sucks, credibility shot.

How can Fadge have credibility shot.

That infers he had credibility to start with.

Fadge has always been a biased fanboy pumping up his idol.

Claiming Naicos as the best Collingwood player is just part of his modus operandi

 

[sr36]

This is something that hasn't been talked about enough:

Collingwood Form During 2025 Season

R1 to R18: 14 wins, 2 losses

R19 to PF: 3 wins, 6 losses

They peaked too early and/or they were front runners for most of the season but when other teams started playing better, they were found out. Collingwood in my mind were nothing more than a "good team" but nothing truly special either. Their form in the back-end of the season was garbage - in the end they were found out.

Our early season form was because we came up with a way of zoning that cut out the 45 degree kicks, stopped transition and forced teams to go long down the line, which meant we could lock it in to a forward half game. But by the end of the year Brissy had worked out how to get around it and it was a forward half game for them. And then we had a shocker inside 50 in the third quarter giving up a ridiculous number of stoppage goals and pack marks to mediums. Shit happens.

 

[Fadge]

Think it’s pretty clear that if you can’t win your own ball or 1v1’s and your team can’t get it to you you’re not going to have much of an impact.
I’d reckon Daicos might’ve run over 17k’s last night.

LOLOLOL

The player with the highest ratio of matchwinning performances to games played 'doesn't have much of an impact on games....'

Jeepers.

 

[Fadge]

Danger had 13 score involvements, 2 goal assists and around 20 contested possessions too. Stacks of crucial clearances. Handballs to release teammates after busting packs. Long driving kicks before the opposition defence could set themselves. Just annihilated Hawthorn and broke their spirit. Monster finals performance. He's had others.

Hey guys, guess who it is this week?

Dangerfield!

 

[doppleganger]

The likes of Judd/GAJ/Danger/Dusty that this thread is purporting Nick is at/above the level of, attack that ball and win you that game, or at least give you a chance, rather than spectating 6m away with the season on the line.

First four seasons of GAJ and Dusty especially they were not doing that at all.

Daicos has won us plenty of games off his own boot in his short career already, it didn't happen in the PF last night.

People keep wanting to compare full careers to Naicos first four seasons - fair enough considering Nick already has 3 AAs, an MVP, Coaches Award and had two involvements in the biggest play of the 2023 GF to deliver a premiership.

 

[Mr Meow]

First four seasons of GAJ and Dusty especially they were not doing that at all.

Daicos has won us plenty of games off his own boot in his short career already, it didn't happen in the PF last night.

People keep wanting to compare full careers to Naicos first four seasons - fair enough considering Nick already has 3 AAs, an MVP, Coaches Award and had two involvements in the biggest play of the 2023 GF to deliver a premiership.

Actually Ablett did it in his 3rd season in the lower disposal era, against Essendon in a semi final.

22 disposals
10 contested possessions
7 clearances
8 inside 50s
1 long range goal
2 goal assists

As a forward/mid. A perfect inside/outside game where he won contests and drove Geelong forward. He wasn't an outside receiver.

Similar a year later in a final against Melbourne with 19 disposals, 10 contested, 8 inside 50s and 3 goals. Damaging and winning contests before hitting the scoreboard.

 

[dean33]

But you know what Fadge is like...he has more excuses for Daicos than a politician breaking an election promise. No doubt Fadge will create some new excuse soon and tell us all in due course.

I think Nick had a combination of gastro, covid and Ebola last night. Hope he's ok.

 

[dmark]

Very interesting read on how the assessments have been set up and I do like the idea of ticking off anyone he may have passed as his career progresses
Incredible first couple of seasons that do stack up against anyone entering the league

Still has a long way to go though to match the feats of several hundred players let alone the top 50, I can see possibilities of getting to top 15-20 but unfortunately the rose coloured glasses will see him much higher in this I imagine, totally understandable though so will read on with interest

Hey guys, guess who it is this week?

Dangerfield!

Glad you have taken the collingwood blinkers off, and have finally seen the light

 

[Lunchtime]

Actually Ablett did it in his 3rd season in the lower disposal era, against Essendon in a semi final.

22 disposals
10 contested possessions
7 clearances
8 inside 50s
1 long range goal
2 goal assists

As a forward/mid. A perfect inside/outside game where he won contests and drove Geelong forward. He wasn't an outside receiver.

Similar a year later in a final against Melbourne with 19 disposals, 10 contested, 8 inside 50s and 3 goals. Damaging and winning contests before hitting the scoreboard.

But we won't let facts ruin the biased Pies mindset in regards to Daicos.

 

[Lunchtime]

Hey guys, guess who it is this week?

Dangerfield!

That's right it is Dangerfield, because he is playing in a Grand Final next week. Meanwhile, Daicos won't be.

 

[Cdog71]

LOLOLOL

The player with the highest ratio of matchwinning performances to games played 'doesn't have much of an impact on games....'

Jeepers.

I dont think he had a big impact last night.

But that’s also on the ego of Pendlebury and arrogance of McRae to not play an inside mid.

Soft tissue injuries to two over 35 yr olds…who would’ve thought.

P

 

[sr36]

I agree with this, I just think if he’s the player this thread is suggesting he is, surely if plan A isn’t working, you tell him to just go win you the game of football.
The likes of Judd/GAJ/Danger/Dusty that this thread is purporting Nick is at/above the level of, attack that ball and win you that game, or at least give you a chance, rather than spectating 6m away with the season on the line.

But Dusty also got ahead of the footy like that. And they all played in losing finals.

Plus the plan was working, until it didn't. We needed goals and the plan delivered a couple of sodas in exactly the way intended but Sidey missed a sitter and then a terrible floater by Membrey followed by an umpiring howler cost us another. And then Brissy were good enough to execute and cut through the defence that that plan left exposed. What a kick by Morris and Cameron executed clinically - game over. Kudos to Brissy.

Nick played well. Set up some outstanding opportunities that we didn't always take. Needs to get stronger though as there were some crucial missed tackles

 

[doppleganger]

Actually Ablett did it in his 3rd season in the lower disposal era, against Essendon in a semi final.

LoL

Geelong had 348 disposals in the single game you have isolated, Pies had 312 last night.

The disengenuos one at his best, nuance and detail always important.

1 long range goal

A long range goal

You must have loved the AFLX when they have soooper goals.

Similar a year later in a final against Melbourne with 19 disposals, 10 contested, 8 inside 50s and 3 goals. Damaging and winning contests before hitting the scoreboard.

GAJ played 5 finals in his first four seasons - he avg 15 disposals, 3 clearances, 7 CPs and 1.4 goals.

GAJ also played a PF against Brisbane at the G, he had 13 disposals, 1 clearances, 7 CPs and just 3 inside 50s....