Moved Thread Nick Daicos or Sam Walsh?

[BringouttheGimp]

This is true to a degree, but coaches and list managers are more about complimentary skills than comparing specific players.

Look at Collingwood's recruitment of Mitchell - Did Collingwood rank him against the other on-ballers available during the trade period, or did they look at his inside/distributor skillset and see that as an important complimentary skill to work in tandem with Adams, to extract the ball to the likes of Naicos, Sidebottom, Pendlebury and De Goey?

Noone is going to look at Mitchell and Sidebottom and ask 'who is the better player'. But we can sit back and watch them work together with their complimentary skillsets to carve teams up in 2023.

There is also a bit of a horses for courses aspect when comparing players. Who is the best fit for the team based on the opposition? That is why a team's squad of 30 plus is more important than seeing a best 22 on paper...

You can't have a top 50 without comparing players. You've got Buckley next to Lockett. And you can't compare Sidebottom to Titch?

 

[freddy mercury]

Walsh, comfortably.

 

[Fat Jesus]

Walsh, comfortably.

Dream on.

 

[freddy mercury]

Dream on.

I could get 6000 kicks at half back.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

I could get 6000 kicks at half back.

Saying Daicos played half back implies he had some sort of defensive responsibility.

Loose man who takes the kick in’s was his role in 2022.

 

[Fat Jesus]

Nicky D will be eased into the midfield because McRae knows what he is doing.
Saying Walsh will have the better career is deluded.

Both stars. Both will have amazing careers.

 

[Vice]

Nicky D will be eased into the midfield because McRae knows what he is doing.
Saying Walsh will have the better career is deluded.

Both stars. Both will have amazing careers.

If both are going to have amazing careers, then it's not deluded to suggest that one might have a better career than the other.

 

[Fat Jesus]

If both are going to have amazing careers, then it's not deluded to suggest that one might have a better career than the other.

It's like heads or tails. Pointless.

All the Collingwood haters pick Walsh and vica versa.

These two are special. Enjoy watching them.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

Saying Daicos played half back implies he had some sort of defensive responsibility.

Loose man who takes the kick in’s was his role in 2022.

Half your luck he'll be playing as our 6th best mid for the next 15 yrs then eh.

Get out the champers mate.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Half your luck he'll be playing as our 6th best mid for the next 15 yrs then eh.

Get out the champers mate.

Seeing is believing

 

[BringouttheGimp]

Seeing is believing

They'll be no water in his wine when he's doing his bizzo in the guts mate. He ain't just the bonnet on a 6 banger slammed Gemi man.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

Seeing is believing

Where does Walsh rank in the league in clearances?

 

[My Tilly]

I'm taking Daicos. As good as what Walsh is, he's a dime-a-dozen those midfielders who rack up 30 touches and rarely trouble the scoreboard. Macrae, Wines, Kelly, Oliver, Steele, etc.

Daicos has those intangibles you can't teach. He probably doesn't train anywhere near as hard as what Walsh does but he will equal his overall output through sheer natural brilliance. I think he could become a champion forward or a champion midfielder if Collingwood choose to permanently move him away from the back half.
The game appears effortless to him.

 

[Fat Jesus]

I'm taking Daicos. As good as what Walsh is, he's a dime-a-dozen those midfielders who rack up 30 touches and rarely trouble the scoreboard. Macrae, Wines, Kelly, Oliver, Steele, etc.

Daicos has those intangibles you can't teach. He probably doesn't train anywhere near as hard as what Walsh does but he will equal his overall output through sheer natural brilliance. I think he could become a champion forward or a champion midfielder if Collingwood choose to permanently move him away from the back half.
The game appears effortless to him.

100% reminds me of a young Ablett. Remains to be seen though. He is special either way..

 

[theasian]

If Daicos is meant to be the next GAJ who does that make Walsh?

Robert Harvey

 

[BringouttheGimp]

In accordance with the doctrine of multiplication compensation calibration.

Poll results as at 24th Nov 2022

Walsh (4th yr) 73
Naicos (1st yr) 54 * 1.5 = 81

That there is more of a reliable precise and accurate assessment of where we're at the moment.. I reckon.

 

[Fadge]

In accordance with the doctrine of multiplication compensation calibration.

Poll results as at 24th Nov 2022

Walsh (4th yr) 73
Naicos (1st yr) 54 * 1.5 = 81

That there is more of a reliable precise and accurate assessment of where we're at the moment.. I reckon.

I reckon you've grossly understated the multiplication factor. Should be x2 at a minimum...

 

[lordbob]

Yeah I didn't think of it like that, the other players took us to 17th, Walsh was part of Carlton that took them to 12th.

yup you had the same coach that got you to 17th... oh wait but you didnt?

so maybe the coach was a bigger impact than a first year half back flanker?

 

[bungalow_bill]

I'm taking Daicos. As good as what Walsh is, he's a dime-a-dozen those midfielders who rack up 30 touches and rarely trouble the scoreboard. Macrae, Wines, Kelly, Oliver, Steele, etc.

Daicos has those intangibles you can't teach. He probably doesn't train anywhere near as hard as what Walsh does but he will equal his overall output through sheer natural brilliance. I think he could become a champion forward or a champion midfielder if Collingwood choose to permanently move him away from the back half.
The game appears effortless to him.

How about Daicos V Ashcroft?

I feel a new poll coming up..

 

[Fadge]

How about Daicos V Ashcroft?

I feel a new poll coming up..

Ashcroft will be an absolute jet, and only injury stands between him and the 2023 Rising Star.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

Well, you have Naicos and Jaicos.
As a Pies supporter I'm not fond of these nicknames

As a Pies supporter you're not fond of the nickname 'Naicos' but you're fond of the nickname 'Nicky D'? What's the difference?

 

[BringouttheGimp]

Both Nick and Sam superstars well on there way. I hate these comparisons.

If you hate these comparisons.. does that mean you dislike Hine? He's in the business of comparing players is he not? Rebuilding.. managing the list.. requires you to draw comparisons between the players.. does it not?

 

[Fat Jesus]

If you hate these comparisons.. does that mean you dislike Hine? He's in the business of comparing players is he not? Rebuilding.. managing the list.. requires you to draw comparisons between the players.. does it not?

I hate them because all the Collingwood haters vote Walsh and vica versa.. although some here show no bias..

 

[Fat Jesus]

As a Pies supporter you're not fond of the nickname 'Naicos' but you're fond of the nickname 'Nicky D'? What's the difference?

Naicos sounds stupid to me.
Nicky D does not.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

Naicos sounds stupid to me.
Nicky D does not.

Why does one sound stupid to you and the other one does not?