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Maybe its worth moving him up the ground, playing him off a back flank or a wing, that way he would have to learn to earn his kicks, yet still being able to utilise his kicking ability.
 

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Why? I'm happy that he won that game but it would be nice if he won more games like that.
He's my favourite player, but I can see why he's been put into reserves. I've just been hoping he gets himself sorted out, because I am hoping like hell he doesn't go.
 

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5 goals in a losing side this week. Named in the swans best. But might have to wait until someone in the 1s has a bad game. They were all fantastic against the lions, especially the young guys. I still think we are a better team with Nick in the side.
 

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Why because he is seasoned - Young guys are great when everything is going great and the wins are coming but come the business end adding his finals experience Nick Davis I assure you will be a required player. Some young players come in and have stellar years but it may be a bit much to ask all of them to come in and play consistent football.

I understand the reasoning of Nick missing out at the moment but he can be a match winner and I hope to see him back soon. In fact against West Coast would be good timing in my opinion due to the real rivalry not the AFL's make up rivalry.
 

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I was disappointed with nick being dropped but tennis star has made a great point that i cannot ignore. We need guys with the stamina to put pressure in our forward fifty and davis doesn't have that meaning he's our weakness there and we can't afford to turn the ball over putting pressure on our midfield and defense.

We've been great these last two weeks and i would LOVE for davis to get to a fitness level where he had a spot in the team BUT he would need to make much more of an effort. We can't afford a soft davis in our forward line.
 

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Why because he is seasoned - Young guys are great when everything is going great and the wins are coming but come the business end adding his finals experience Nick Davis I assure you will be a required player. Some young players come in and have stellar years but it may be a bit much to ask all of them to come in and play consistent football.

I understand the reasoning of Nick missing out at the moment but he can be a match winner and I hope to see him back soon. In fact against West Coast would be good timing in my opinion due to the real rivalry not the AFL's make up rivalry.
But he hasn't done much in our finals? He is slow, lazy and doesn't contest marks. He can't tack a soaring mark nor can he mark over head. He is 1 dimensional in all aspects. Apart from the Geelong game when has dominated a game and for the 4 qrts?

I am getting tired of the same reply, because i see no value for him anymore or what Roos wants to do with our game plan.
 

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I was disappointed with nick being dropped but tennis star has made a great point that i cannot ignore. We need guys with the stamina to put pressure in our forward fifty and davis doesn't have that meaning he's our weakness there and we can't afford to turn the ball over putting pressure on our midfield and defense.

We've been great these last two weeks and i would LOVE for davis to get to a fitness level where he had a spot in the team BUT he would need to make much more of an effort. We can't afford a soft davis in our forward line.
exactly! Davis is way too slow for the kind of gameplan roos has created. We can't afford to allow run from our fwd 50 and Nick Davis is more prone to just be out paced.

And plus Barlow has filled that void nicely in the past two weeks.
 

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5 goals in a losing side this week. Named in the swans best. But might have to wait until someone in the 1s has a bad game. They were all fantastic against the lions, especially the young guys. I still think we are a better team with Nick in the side.
How'd Benny, Fossie and Crouchy go?
 

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I was disappointed with nick being dropped but tennis star has made a great point that i cannot ignore. We need guys with the stamina to put pressure in our forward fifty and davis doesn't have that meaning he's our weakness there and we can't afford to turn the ball over putting pressure on our midfield and defense.

We've been great these last two weeks and i would LOVE for davis to get to a fitness level where he had a spot in the team BUT he would need to make much more of an effort. We can't afford a soft davis in our forward line.
He doesn't have much stamina to sustain run over long periods of time, but he's an elite goal kicker. After Micky O, who do we have that fits that bracket ?
 

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He doesn't have much stamina to sustain run over long periods of time, but he's an elite goal kicker. After Micky O, who do we have that fits that bracket ?
well he had a chance in round 1 but he didn't. We can't an impact player come on for 5 mins and not do anything. He needs to be our didak if anything.
 

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Nick Davis is the litmus test for the Swans. When their keenness starts to wane then Roos aims at Davis - shape up or be dropped. It's a lesson to the whole team, especially setting an example to the younger players.

It's working now, as it usually does. Providing Nick toes the line and gives the right signals then he will be back in the seniors when Roos wants to lift them again. All part of what makes him a good coach.
 

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Hahaha Litmus test :D

It's getting a little unfair to make him the 'scapegoat' all the time. But, yeah it does work. Look what he did after coming back from being dropped in '06 (i think..).

If he becomes our Didak after a couple of weeks in the reserves, then Roos'll do it every year.

Just hope he's back soon.
 

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How'd Benny, Fossie and Crouchy go?
I was at the game yesterday in Queanbeyan.
Matthews worked really hard, got a lot of possessions in the back half.
Fosssie and Crouchy didn't play.
Yes Davis did kick 5 and was named in the best BUT from what I saw the reason he was dropped in the first place ie lack of pressure in forward 50 was still very evident. 3 of his goals come from not chasing his opponent and then Queanbeyan turning the ball over and him being unmarked in the forward line.
He went on ball in second half and was marked very closely. He tried very hard but I have seen him play much better and would have been expected to dominate more at this level of footy. It will take an injury IMO for him to get back in.
 

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well he had a chance in round 1 but he didn't. We can't an impact player come on for 5 mins and not do anything. He needs to be our didak if anything.
Nick Davis is not slow and he does not have stamina issues (although he's no Fosdike). He wasn't dropped this time because he is outa shape, but because he is lazy. He doesn't chase hard enough and Roos is letting him know that he cant get away with it anymore. Didak is an excellent guy to compare him to. The pair have freakish abilities but can go missing in games. Didak is on fire at the moment. Hopefully Davis can turn it on when he returns.
 

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Nick Davis is not slow and he does not have stamina issues (although he's no Fosdike). He wasn't dropped this time because he is outa shape, but because he is lazy. He doesn't chase hard enough and Roos is letting him know that he cant get away with it anymore. Didak is an excellent guy to compare him to. The pair have freakish abilities but can go missing in games. Didak is on fire at the moment. Hopefully Davis can turn it on when he returns.
Looked pretty in shape last time I saw him, or do you mean fitness/endurance wise?
 

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But he hasn't done much in our finals? He is slow, lazy and doesn't contest marks. He can't tack a soaring mark nor can he mark over head. He is 1 dimensional in all aspects. Apart from the Geelong game when has dominated a game and for the 4 qrts?

I am getting tired of the same reply, because i see no value for him anymore or what Roos wants to do with our game plan.
Sorry that you are tired of the same reply!

But a lot of inexperienced players get overwhelmed in big games. Experience counts for a lot and two games is a tidy kick in the bum. He should come back in to the side and would be a vital cog against the Eagles in my opinion.......which of course is just an opinion. Craig Bird hasn't done anything more than I've seen Nick Davis do in a match and not be considered a match winner but may have bobbed up with a couple of goals.

I don't want to see Craig Bird Dropped I believe in development but that is an analogy that seems fair to me. The team performing well will make it hard for Davo to be considered as development of youngsters is important though having the ball in the hands of a player who can finish usually better than any other player in the team can have its benefits in tight contests. I remember a game against Collingwood that we won due to accurate high pressure goals from Davis and Micky O. I still believe he can deliver.'

Good luck to him. Mostly though I hope he works harder when he gets his call up.
 
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Sorry that you are tired of the same reply!

But a lot of inexperienced players get overwhelmed in big games. Experience counts for a lot and two games is a tidy kick in the bum. He should come back in to the side and would be a vital cog against the Eagles in my opinion.......which of course is just an opinion. Craig Bird hasn't done anything more than I've seen Nick Davis do in a match and not be considered a match winner but may have bobbed up with a couple of goals.

I don't want to see Craig Bird Dropped I believe in development but that is an analogy that seems fair to me. The team performing well will make it hard for Davo to be considered as development of youngsters is important though having the ball in the hands of a player who can finish usually better than any other player in the team can have its benefits in tight contests. I remember a game against Collingwood that we won due to accurate high pressure goals from Davis and Micky O. I still believe he can deliver.'

Good luck to him. Mostly though I hope he works harder when he gets his call up.
bird should not be dropped
on form alone, he's improved in each of the three games and if you're talking about putting pressure on ball carriers, bird is a gem
i am a davis fan, although i am as fed up as roos or anyone else that he lets himself down with a lack (or apparent lack) of commitment and application
and i agree davis' experience and his goal-kicking ability are still very important to the club, but bird cannot be the player dropped to make way for him
 

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bird should not be dropped
on form alone, he's improved in each of the three games and if you're talking about putting pressure on ball carriers, bird is a gem
i am a davis fan, although i am as fed up as roos or anyone else that he lets himself down with a lack (or apparent lack) of commitment and application
and i agree davis' experience and his goal-kicking ability are still very important to the club, but bird cannot be the player dropped to make way for him
..try having him as a favourite player .

Davis will become pivotal to the team when Micky O does leave the club. If only he was as dedicated as Mick ..
 

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I was at the game yesterday in Queanbeyan.
Matthews worked really hard, got a lot of possessions in the back half.
Fosssie and Crouchy didn't play.
Yes Davis did kick 5 and was named in the best BUT from what I saw the reason he was dropped in the first place ie lack of pressure in forward 50 was still very evident. 3 of his goals come from not chasing his opponent and then Queanbeyan turning the ball over and him being unmarked in the forward line.
He went on ball in second half and was marked very closely. He tried very hard but I have seen him play much better and would have been expected to dominate more at this level of footy. It will take an injury IMO for him to get back in.
I was at the game also and agree with One 4, Davis really only put the pedal to the metal in the last term when the game was up for grabs. Prior to that he was a reasonably well held by the Tigers. Expectation from me and most was that he would dominate but never really grabbed the game by the scruff
 

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I was at the game also and agree with One 4, Davis really only put the pedal to the metal in the last term when the game was up for grabs. Prior to that he was a reasonably well held by the Tigers. Expectation from me and most was that he would dominate but never really grabbed the game by the scruff
Sounds like Dicky to a tee. The most frustrating (from a fans point of view) player in the AFL!
 
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