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[blackshadow]

On the subject of the AFLW I heard some disturbing information from someone well placed in football administration and it's that the AFL has stopped funding the VFL Development League as the money is being diverted to the AFLW.

This isn't anything against women's football but I firmly believe that the development league is more important than women's football.


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[lockheed]

On the subject of the AFLW I heard some disturbing information from someone well placed in football administration and it's that the AFL has stopped funding the VFL Development League as the money is being diverted to the AFLW.

I agree that, if true, it would seem to be a shortsighted decision. Surely the AFL has enough money to fund both competitions.

 

[Augustine]

On the subject of the AFLW I heard some disturbing information from someone well placed in football administration and it's that the AFL has stopped funding the VFL Development League as the money is being diverted to the AFLW.

This isn't anything against women's football but I firmly believe that the development league is more important than women's football.


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How on earth would the two be related? Why would that be considered an either/or situation?

 

[blackshadow]

I agree that, if true, it would seem to be a shortsighted decision. Surely the AFL has enough money to fund both competitions.

How on earth would the two be related? Why would that be considered an either/or situation?

Only passing on what I heard from someone who should know.

I agree it's remarkably short sighted and that the AFL should have enough money for both.

However it's pretty much in keeping with the AFL putting public perception and marketing over the less sexy aspects of the game.

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[LT Smash]

I don't know that the funding of the two leagues is related in any way but it is well established that the development league is not continuing in 2018.

 

[La Flama Blanca]

The end game of the AFL would be for all 18 clubs to have a women's team. Given this fact, why is there such a rush to get in now as the "Tasmanian Kangaroos" rather than just be patient and be able to call ourselves the "North Melbourne Kangaroos" in a few years? At this stage having a women's team is purely a marketing exercise. I'm not sure the potential gains outweigh the potential losses here from a marketing perspective if we have to sell out on our branding like that.

 

[The chorus]

The end game of the AFL would be for all 18 clubs to have a women's team. Given this fact, why is there such a rush to get in now as the "Tasmanian Kangaroos" rather than just be patient and be able to call ourselves the "North Melbourne Kangaroos" in a few years? At this stage having a women's team is purely a marketing exercise. I'm not sure the potential gains outweigh the potential losses here from a marketing perspective if we have to sell out on our branding like that.

If having a women's team is "purely a marketing exercise" it must be a very successful marketing exercise, judging by the way clubs are jostling to get a licence- even clubs that didn't apply the first time round are now trying to push their way in. Obviously those in the know at the clubs place more importance on getting a licence than you do. I think we would have been pushed aside by the larger Melbourne Clubs for the next licences, except for the Tasmanian link. I will be much happier going to watch the Tasmanian Kangaroos than sitting at home complaining that Richmond, Hawthorn and Essendon were given licences ahead of us

 

[Limerick]

If we want our women's team to be successful we need to get in early as the existing teams will
obtain and retain the best players. Come in last and it will take years to build up a
competitive side.

 

[lockheed]

The end game of the AFL would be for all 18 clubs to have a women's team. Given this fact, why is there such a rush to get in now as the "Tasmanian Kangaroos" rather than just be patient and be able to call ourselves the "North Melbourne Kangaroos" in a few years? At this stage having a women's team is purely a marketing exercise. I'm not sure the potential gains outweigh the potential losses here from a marketing perspective if we have to sell out on our branding like that.

I want all the teams that my daughter supports to wears blue and white; I don't want to give her loyalty a chance to deviate because we don't have a women's team.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

If we want our women's team to be successful we need to get in early as the existing teams will
obtain and retain the best players. Come in last and it will take years to build up a
competitive side.

Pretty sure we tested this "come in later" strategy 1896-1925. Haven't caught up yet.

 

[giantroo]

Tom Browne reporting that the AFL commission will decide who will get AFLW licences mid next week. 5-6 clubs to get licences.

Teams that have put bids in:

 

[giantroo]

Everything you need to know before the AFLW expansion announcement

By Matt Marsden
August 28, 2017


In what is already a huge week for the women’s game, the teams that will join the AFLW in 2019 are expected to be announced tomorrow.

The AFL Commission will meet in Geelong on Tuesday to finalise which teams will enter the competition and, if the 2016 AFLW reveal is anything to go by, also announce the winning bids.

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North Melbourne is one of the teams expected to be awarded an AFLW licence, potentially branded as the Tasmanian Kangaroos. Image: North Melbourne Football Club

The announcement will kick-off a huge week of AFLW with the first ever State of Origin game to be played at Etihad Stadium this Saturday, and the Youth Girls State of Origin match also taking place beforehand.

The timing of the licence announcement and Youth Girls match will be particularly handy for the announced clubs, which will be eying off the underage players eligible to be drafted next year as potential marquee names.

But first things first, the expansion clubs must be introduced, and there is still plenty of uncertainty on the eve of the announcement.

Before the event, here’s everything you need to know.



Which teams are in the running?
Before the June 15 submission deadline, eight of the ten AFL clubs without women’s teams submitted bids. Geelong, North Melbourne, Richmond, St Kilda and West Coast already hold provisional licences after being unsuccessful in 2016, and Essendon, Gold Coast and Hawthorn joined the race earlier this year.

How many teams will join the AFLW?
It has been debated whether it should be two or four teams joining the AFLW in 2019, but the mail suggests it will be four. The AFL’s goal is to get the remaining teams into the competition as quickly as possible – without completely diluting the talent pool – to ensure the foundation teams aren’t too far ahead of the rest.

Which club is most likely to receive a licence?
Without a doubt, Geelong will be receiving an AFLW licence – if the Commission meeting in Geelong isn’t enough to quell any concerns, nothing will. It won’t be confirmed until officially announced, but word out of AFL House is that the Cats have ticked all the boxes and made themselves an unassailable front-runner. It’s no surprise given the talent available to the club in the Greater Geelong region, the stellar operation of the Cats’ VFL Women’s team and the side’s impressive 8-6 record in their first season.

Which other teams are looking likely?
According to The Age’s chief football writer Caroline Wilson, West Coast and North Melbourne are supremely confident about their chances of receiving a licence. Both holders of provisional licences, the Eagles are boosted by the strong talent available to WA despite the results of Fremantle in the AFLW, and North Melbourne’s partnership with Tasmania means the league can expand its reach further into the Apple Isle. If successful, it’s unlikely the Kangaroos will operate out of Tasmania, but the club is open to being branded as the Tasmanian Kangaroos depending on the funding model.

What about the fourth spot?
With Geelong locked in and West Coast and North Melbourne looking like they are home, that leaves one remaining licence for 2019. It’s predicted that all four spots will go to teams holding provisional licences – though not written in stone – so that leaves Richmond and St Kilda slugging it out for the final place. Foremost, Richmond brings marquee match-ups with existing AFLW teams into the equation, while St Kilda’s biggest asset is its access to the wealth of developing talent in Victoria’s south-east. Both clubs are in the process of redeveloping their home bases, with St Kilda already knee-deep in upgrades to RSEA Park, and Richmond pitching plans of a Punt Road Oval overhaul to the State Government. Whichever club misses out will understandably be extremely disappointed.

Where does that leave the teams without provisional licences?
It’s not guaranteed that the teams without provisional licences will be left out, but it looks the more likely option. Simply put, fans of Essendon, Gold Coast and Hawthorn shouldn’t hold their breath. If one club is in with a shot, however, it’s likely going to be Gold Coast. Although Essendon and Hawthorn bring big-name appeal, another Melbourne-based team would spread talent in the Victorian heartland far too thin. On the flip side, Queensland appears to have talent coming out of its ears, with both senior and youth competitions flourishing and only one team occupying the state.

What happens to the teams that don’t receive AFLW licences?
There are conflicting reports, but it’s expected that two additional teams will be given a future date for their introduction into the AFLW, possibly 2021. It was initially speculated that six teams will enter the competition in 2019, which still remains possible, but it’s more likely that four will be announced for 2019 and a further two given another date. The two teams not given a date for their AFLW introductions are expected to be awarded provisional licences, with their situations to be reassessed before the future expansion.

 

[Firestarter]

Without a doubt Geelong.

Fair frigging dinkum.

 

[shintemaster]

Gold Coast. How about they worry about running a mens team that can win more than a handful of games per year before they move onto the women's market.

 

[King Corey]

Gold Coast. How about they worry about running a mens team that can win more than a handful of games or get more than a handful of genuine paying supporters excepting player's families per year before they move onto the women's market.

Updated.

 

[King Corey]

Are they serious?

"Essendon are just a fantastic traditional club. It's warmed even non-Essendon supporter's hearts to see them back into the finals and that impetus should really give their AFLW franchise a real boost.

Hawthorn's record speaks for itself. Just a constantly innovative club - look at their work in NZ and Tassie for a start. We're excited about what they can bring into the fledgling women's competition.

Just like Hawthorn, Geelong really turned it around a few years ago to become a powerhouse of the competition. The region is a rich farming ground for football talent of both the mens and womens varieties and we're confident they'll make a real go of it as a team.

The Gold Coast is one of the fastest developing regions in the country. While they didn't enjoy great onfield success this year we're happy with the way things are building up there and this is another step in creating a very strong talent pathway in the northern states.

While we were mindful of seeing the competition spread throughout the country, the argument for St Kilda was too compelling to ignore. St Kilda broke the glass ceiling in employing a female staff member and you only have to look at their past campaigns with women of all ages to see they're very serious about women. Their inclusion may surprise some but we felt they richly deserved to be part of the conversation."

 

[gokangas]

Tasmanian Kangaroos? I'll vomit.

 

[ArchKing Carey]

Are they serious?

"Essendon are just a fantastic traditional club. It's warmed even non-Essendon supporter's hearts to see them back into the finals and that impetus should really give their AFLW franchise a real boost.

Hawthorn's record speaks for itself. Just a constantly innovative club - look at their work in NZ and Tassie for a start. We're excited about what they can bring into the fledgling women's competition.

Just like Hawthorn, Geelong really turned it around a few years ago to become a powerhouse of the competition. The region is a rich farming ground for football talent of both the mens and womens varieties and we're confident they'll make a real go of it as a team.

The Gold Coast is one of the fastest developing regions in the country. While they didn't enjoy great onfield success this year we're happy with the way things are building up there and this is another step in creating a very strong talent pathway in the northern states.

While we were mindful of seeing the competition spread throughout the country, the argument for St Kilda was too compelling to ignore. St Kilda broke the glass ceiling in employing a female staff member and you only have to look at their past campaigns with women of all ages to see they're very serious about women. Their inclusion may surprise some but we felt they richly deserved to be part of the conversation."

Its got to be a joke. St Kilda with "women of all ages", every other supporter loving Essendon back in the finals and to top it off Gold Coast is a basket case.

 

[Royal Flush]

**** the Tasmanian Kangaroos.

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[Sheezel2Wardlaw]

Tassie Kangaroos? Id rather not have a team if we are going to be called that. Stuff that!

 

[Flawed Genius]

 

[giantroo]

If we get a team, do we get a new bf sub-board for it like other clubs have?

 

[Flawed Genius]

If we get a team, do we get a new bf sub-board for it like other clubs have?

If that is what the board so desires, we will take it to Chief and admin.

 

[The chorus]

Tassie Kangaroos? Id rather not have a team if we are going to be called that. Stuff that!

I am sure the many women at our club who have worked so hard to support women's footy and get a team at North Melbourne don't share your view. I hope they are rewarded for their hard work and I certainly will be supporting our team, whatever its name

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Didn't we already have this conversation about the Tasmania connection? If NMFC gets awarded a license this round I'd like to think it would be a full/on celebration by supporters. Three teams running around in the blue and white next year? What a beautiful pipe dream.