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[North Viking]

AFLW: Brisbane Lions criticise North Melbourne-Tasmania's recruiting methods in signing period
By Quentin Hull
Posted 13 minutes agoMon 21 May 2018, 5:02pm

Photo: Kaitlyn Ashmore is one of four Lions players signed by Nth Melbourne-Tasmania. (AAP: Roy Vandervegt)
Brisbane Lions AFLW coach Craig Starcevich has accused new club North Melbourne-Tasmania of disrespecting the spirit of the competition during the 10-day expansion club signing period.

The signing period concluded on Monday and the Kangaroos landed a host of high-profile signings headed by league best and fairest winner Emma Kearney from the Western Bulldogs.

Two-time grand finalists Brisbane lost four players to the Kangaroos and Starcevich questioned the method of the recruiting team at Arden Street.

"Across the club we've all had some ownership about how this league works," the Lions coach told Grandstand AFL.

"There's a little bit there about respecting each others' space and not necessarily going in and pillaging each others' players and doing it with some ounce of integrity.

"It is the spirt of how we build this competition. I'm not sure North have been super with it to be honest."

Geelong will join North Melbourne-Tasmania in next year's competition before four more clubs enter the league in 2020.

Starcevich said the Kangaroos had been clinically courting their targets of the recruiting raid.

SoundCloud: Brisbane Lions AFLW coach Craig Starcevich on recruiting


"They've been into some of the players for the best part of six months," he said.

"I'm not sure that sits with us that comfortably, even though the rules don't allow that, but if you abide by the rules you don't necessarily get when you want to go.

"You've got to do things a little bit underhanded at times to try and get where you want to get in terms of building your list so that's disappointing."

Brisbane chairman Andrew Wellington agreed the regulations surrounding the expansion of the AFLW could have been handled better.

"The AFL has done a fantastic job with women's football. It doesn't mean that they have got everything 100 per cent right," he said.

"It was very late in the day that they finalised the list rules which made it very hard for us to do what we needed to do to manage our list."

Both new AFLW clubs are entitled to recruit from the foundation eight clubs, but only four players in total from each existing club are allowed to be taken by either the Cats or Kangaroos.

Starcevich hopes the AFL addresses the rules around recruitment before Gold Coast, Richmond, St Kilda and West Coast build their player roster ahead of joining the 2020 season of AFLW.

"There's got to be a certain amount of movement with players that have had experience at AFLW, but at this point in time North Melbourne look like they are going to assemble 12 to 16 of those players," he said.

"It's probably a lesson learnt for next year when there's four new clubs that will take us up to 14 teams in the comp as to what is the right mechanism," he added.

"It can't just be a free-for-all."

Sour grapes much. Stfu starcevitch you whining bitch.

These girls were mostly ours to begin with. We developed them. We poured in the effort and money into MU.

We should of been a foundation member to begin with.

These girls are coming home. Where they belong.

 

[North Viking]

I agree with Craig Sookavich. The AFL should tighten the rules before the next expansion so that no existing team can lose more than 2 required players.

Hahaha Sookavich. Classic!

Probably not a coincidence that the only time it's really been used so far is in this article, from Queensland, whining about what we are doing.

It was clear back hander from Sookavitch.

 

[Grogg]

Hahaha Sookavich. Classic!



It was clear back hander from Sookavitch.

All I could think of after reading that salt laden diatribe was that classic Cartman drinking the tears episode on South Park.

 

[Dan]

The shoe will be on the other foot when other teams arrive.

All you can really do is have an environment where people wanna come to and stay.

 

[Teen Wolf]

Brisbane have had 7 different players (including a Tasmanian) selected in the All-Australian team of '17 or '18 (or both), and we haven't taken any of them. Couldn't get our hands on Melbourne Uni product Nicole Hildebrand either, for example.

Starcevich never seemed too worried about the sacred spirit of AFLW until now. Flooding the Lions' backline when they get a one-point lead five minutes into every match, **** him. Another self-interested idiot citing "the vibe" when it suits.

What do these maniacs expect North Melbourne to do, just roll over and not recruit anybody half-decent? I don't have any sympathy for Brisbane at all... yet. Just wait until the Suns enter the competition, then they'll find out what it's actually like to be raided.

 

[longyroos]

I think it was raised earlier in this thread but where will our womens team play home games the first season in Melbourne? I know the end result is to have Arden Street up and running but that won't be this year surely.

 

[giantroo]

 

[giantroo]

What an absolute joke!

 

[jess_1804]

Making it up as they go along...

 

[The Nostradamus]

lol penalise for being competant to attract players

we are a new club we should have pick 1 in the draft

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Penalised why? The AFL had to sign off on all signings.

What other sport in the world does a team get punished retroactively because the governing body got it wrong?

 

[hilly]

Making it up as they go along...

Could apply to AFLM, AFLW and probably AFLX.

 

[DesertRoo]

That is hilarious,
I'm glad Caro didn't write that article or the heading would've been 'Sexist North Melbourne kills off the female competition'.

 

[BoomerRoo]

What an absolute disgrace…


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[RobZombie]

Much as I want to be outraged by this, I'm ... kind of not? Player movement and list management seems very different in AFLW - all one year contracts, smaller lists, crossovers from other sports - and accounting for the exposed form of the signings before allocating draft concessions seems sensible. It all depends whether and where they allocate compo picks too I guess.

In terms of losses,

Collingwood lost 3 of their top 6 but that includes 30 year old Mo Hope who had become a bit of a whipping ... girl?
Brisbane lost 2 of their top 6 (and 3 of their top 7) but kept their top 3
Bulldogs lost 2 of their top 6 but kept players 2-5
Carlton kept their top 8 players
Melbourne lost 1 of their top 6
GWS lost 1 of their top 6, 6th-rated McWilliams
Freo and Adelaide lost nobody

I mean we can all look up the PAVs on hpnfooty and see that the list looks like it probably doesn't need a lot of bolstering with overly generous draft concessions, but the losses to the other clubs weren't as disastrous as all that either.

If I were to want a change to the list rules I might be asking for two year deals for draftees.

 

[muttley45]

Has Eddie McChins put his 2 bobs worth in yet ?

 

[BLERN]

Lol. They sign off on it all then decide afterwards that they dont like it.

Why am i not surprised

 

[The Nostradamus]

 

[darko]

Penalized for being good at something. Hmmm ok.

 

[Val Keating]

Surely all those clubs would’ve expected some of the MUFC girls get back to where they belong?

 

[darko]

Penalised why? The AFL had to sign off on all signings.

What other sport in the world does a team get punished retroactively because the governing body got it wrong?

Operation "Contain North"

 

[darko]

Surely all those clubs would’ve expected some of the MUFC girls get back to where they belong?

You and your common sense can get the hell out.

 

[hcd199]

Much as I want to be outraged by this, I'm ... kind of not? Player movement and list management seems very different in AFLW - all one year contracts, smaller lists, crossovers from other sports - and accounting for the exposed form of the signings before allocating draft concessions seems sensible. It all depends whether and where they allocate compo picks too I guess.

In terms of losses,

Collingwood lost 3 of their top 6 but that includes 30 year old Mo Hope who had become a bit of a whipping ... girl?
Brisbane lost 2 of their top 6 (and 3 of their top 7) but kept their top 3
Bulldogs lost 2 of their top 6 but kept players 2-5
Carlton kept their top 8 players
Melbourne lost 1 of their top 6
GWS lost 1 of their top 6, 6th-rated McWilliams
Freo and Adelaide lost nobody

I mean we can all look up the PAVs on hpnfooty and see that the list looks like it probably doesn't need a lot of bolstering with overly generous draft concessions, but the losses to the other clubs weren't as disastrous as all that either.

If I were to want a change to the list rules I might be asking for two year deals for draftees.

Agree with all of this. The haphazard way the AFL has managed the competition so far doesn't give me much confidence that they'll do it correctly, but the fundamental idea of this is sound - especially given the points system in the original expansion plan was scrapped. Ideally, I'd like to think longer-term contracts (and hence relatively stable - larger? - lists) become the norm sooner rather than later, but again I can't say I'm confident...

 

[tazaa]

Again can anyone advise who of these girls were at MU?

 

[dus]

Penalising us, will only make the bond stronger.

Us vs Them.

I’d expect to lose nobody next year.