Opinion NMFC Board Cricket Thread III

[roo blitz]

Thats just stupid.

Stupid moments in this ashes series Aussies>> 4. Poms >>45. 4-1 will be the result of that. Stupidest series I have ever known

 

[King Corey]

Green reaches double figures and raises the bat.

 

[Passmore]

They live on the "if".

Crawley, Root, and Jacks could have each tipped in another 15-20 on this deck . And if Jacks didn't gift his wicket 2nd ball that might have given Stokes enough of a breather to bat better. He seems to be moving OK today.

Although I enjoy us smashing them with no chance and them whining about it, them having a chance but doing themselves in and whining about it has a certain perverse appeal I must say.

They'll lose the series 4-1 and still have the opinion they have better players...."if only:....

Which is good. That means they'll cling to current delusions, and Australia will keep beating them.

Not sure which tears are tastier, * or the pommies?

 

[Samsquanch]

 

[Samsquanch]

Remember, David Warner has been pumping up Green's tyres. That says it all.

 

[Lomas]

We bat to 10 and only need 18 runs, but for some reason Green is panicking.

 

[Lomas]

Remember, David Warner has been pumping up Green's tyres. That says it all.

So Green for man of the series?

 

[roo blitz]

They'll lose the series 4-1 and still have the opinion they have better players...."if only:....

Which is good. That means they'll cling to current delusions, and Australia will keep beating them.

Not sure which tears are tastier, * or the pommies?

I actually think they will be better off losing this series 4-1. They couldnt stuff up a series anymore than this one and if they are fair dinkum they will go away and change alot of what they have got wrong on this tour which is nearly everything from bazball, team selection, fielding errors, preparation and the list goes on. Most of it is basics. Bethell and Root have showed them how they need to play in the future and set the blueprint to be successful. Most of the Aussie best players are their oldest players which wont be around much longer. The talent is there for sure and Tongue and Bethell are the future. Gotta make a call on a number of other players though. If they refine the way they play they will be a handful in the next ashes in UK. Every test match they have had their chances which they didnt take. I have never seen a team stuff up so much and the Aussies have been good enough to take advantage. Both teams have depleted bowling attacks at the moment.

 

[Hojuman]

And with that, summer is officially over

 

[Lomas]

I actually think they will be better off losing this series 4-1. They couldnt stuff up a series anymore than this one and if they are fair dinkum they will go away and change alot of what they have got wrong on this tour which is nearly everything from bazball, team selection, fielding errors, preparation and the list goes on. Most of it is basics. Bethell and Root have showed them how they need to play in the future and set the blueprint to be successful. Most of the Aussie best players are their oldest players which wont be around much longer. The talent is there for sure and Tongue and Bethell are the future. Gotta make a call on a number of other players though. If they refine the way they play they will be a handful in the next ashes in UK. Every test match they have had their chances which they didnt take. I have never seen a team stuff up so much and the Aussies have been good enough to take advantage. Both teams have depleted bowling attacks at the moment.

For all the ‘England have had their chances’, they have been thoroughly outplayed in almost every aspect.
Australia easily the the best bowler, batsman, and keeper.
Australia have scored over 500 twice while England hasn’t even passed 400.
Australia has had many more 50+ run partnerships, partnerships win test matches.
All the ‘if justs’ work on a fantasy that things would have otherwise been perfect, that’s not life or sport. They would have just lost in different ways.

 

[Passmore]

And with that, summer is officially over

It's a shame the cricket season finishes so early nowadays. Miss the days of the tri series when ODI was enjoyable.

 

[Lomas]

It's a shame the cricket season finishes so early nowadays. Miss the days of the tri series when ODI was enjoyable.

Miss the Adelaide test being the long weekend in Jan too.

 

[Passmore]

For all the ‘England have had their chances’, they have been thoroughly outplayed in almost every aspect.
Australia easily the the best bowler, batsman, and keeper.
Australia have scored over 500 twice while England hasn’t even passed 400.
Australia has had many more 50+ run partnerships, partnerships win test matches.
All the ‘if justs’ work on a fantasy that things would have otherwise been perfect, that’s not life or sport. They would have just lost in different ways.

They're not as good as they keep telling themselves.

 

[kanga kanga kanga]

Go home England

 

[Passmore]

Miss the Adelaide test being the long weekend in Jan too.

I remember one year, they had 3 one dayers...back in 82-83...

 

[Samsquanch]

They're not as good as they keep telling themselves.

I dunno. I reckon if that catch had been paid this morning they would have won this match for certain, and probably one of, if not both of the first two tests as well.

 

[hellas_johnny]

With that ending it'll be interesting to see how many players return to their bbl clubs. Some bbl teams still have 4 games left plus the possibility of finals

 

[Lomas]

I remember one year, they had 3 one dayers...back in 82-83...

They did in the late ‘80s and ‘90s too, back when one day cricket was the cash king.

 

[Lomas]

With that ending it'll be interesting to see how many players return to their bbl clubs. Some bbl teams still have 4 games left plus the possibility of finals

They said Starc is, so I’d guess all of them. $$$

 

[Hojuman]

I dunno. I reckon if that catch had been paid this morning they would have won this match for certain, and probably one of, if not both of the first two tests as well.

Monarchist !

 

[hellas_johnny]

Renegades only get Doggett back then as lyon obvs is injured.

 

[Lomas]

I dunno. I reckon if that catch had been paid this morning they would have won this match for certain, and probably one of, if not both of the first two tests as well.

Awarded retrospectively I assume.

 

[Samsquanch]

Awarded retrospectively I assume.

By Prince Charles and Queen Carmilla at the knighthood ceremony of Sir Ben Duckett and Lord Stokes.

 

[Loose_Cannon]

I actually think they will be better off losing this series 4-1. They couldnt stuff up a series anymore than this one and if they are fair dinkum they will go away and change alot of what they have got wrong on this tour which is nearly everything from bazball, team selection, fielding errors, preparation and the list goes on. Most of it is basics. Bethell and Root have showed them how they need to play in the future and set the blueprint to be successful. Most of the Aussie best players are their oldest players which wont be around much longer. The talent is there for sure and Tongue and Bethell are the future. Gotta make a call on a number of other players though. If they refine the way they play they will be a handful in the next ashes in UK. Every test match they have had their chances which they didnt take. I have never seen a team stuff up so much and the Aussies have been good enough to take advantage. Both teams have depleted bowling attacks at the moment.

Brook and Root have been solid, and it looks like Bethell will be a gun. Why they stuck with Pope so long I have NFI. Duckett and Crawley have had their chances this series, and I've seen them play better in the past.

One thing I always look for is the "game within the game", and this time around I think it was overs bowled that really decided things, especially 1st innings overs and how many the Aussies forced the Poms into bowling.

1st Test:
Aus bowled 32.5 overs and then 34.4 overs for a total of ~67 overs
Eng bowled 45.2 overs and then 28.2 overs for a total of ~73 overs
Aus win by 8 wickets

2nd Test:
Aus bowled 76.2 overs and then 75.2 overs for a total of ~151 overs
Eng bowled 117.3 overs and then 10 overs for a total of ~127 overs
Aus win by 8 wickets

3rd Test:
Eng bowled 91.2 overs and then 84.4 overs for a total of ~175 overs
Aus bowled 87.2 overs and then 102.5 overs for a total of ~190 overs
Aus win by 82 runs

4th Test:
Eng bowled 45.2 overs and then 34.3 overs for a total of ~80 overs
Aus bowled 29.5 overs and then 32.2 overs for a total of ~62 overs
Eng win by 4 wickets

5th Test:
Aus bowled 97.3 overs and then 88.2 overs for a total of ~186 overs
Eng bowled 133.5 overs and then 31.2 overs for a total of ~165 overs
Aus win by 5 wickets

Every single first innings the English had to work harder to get the Aussies out. In the first test, the English bowled MORE overs than the Aussies and the Aussies still won by 8 wickets. Bazball has to be retooled or die if they are to be more competitive; you've got to make the opposition work to get you out. I hope they stick with it and suffer, of course, but the answers are plain as mud. For all the talk of "exciting Bazball", did the Aussies not score as quickly or quicker most of the time? In a mostly sensible fashion for most of them (Green...Marnus...that Uzzie hook shot...).

I'm sure there are some stats out there on average pace per fast bowler per spell, and I am sure the likes of Archer and Atkinson slowed up after having to grind as much as they did; they also didn't make it through the series. Wood too but he's hardly on the park ever anyway. I'd feel aggrieved if I were an English fast bowler knowing I have to work that hard just for Duckett or Crawley or Smith to mindlessly throw away their wickets.

 

[Lomas]

By Prince Charles and Queen Carmilla at the knighthood ceremony of Sir Ben Duckett and Lord Stokes.

No one deserves the laurels more.