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While on field success is ultimately what we all want I don’t think it’s the only solution. Look at the Doggies who have been pretty good since their flag but don’t have a lot to show for it. Hawthorn is more interesting in how they have been able to turn around the rabble that place was in the mid-late 90’s to what it is now. Maybe if we all sign up our pets the AFL media will get off our case
 

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I can see why Paul got through stage 1. Here's a fine example (5 mins with Paul Crapper):

If you could invite three people to dinner, dead or alive, and excluding family and friends, who would they be and why?
Michelle Payne - surely 2015 Australian of the year and a fine example of the “Aussie battler” and to all women in sport.

Patrick Dodson -Aboriginal leader from the Kimberley and the Father of Reconciliation in Australia.

Thomas Crapper - my ancestor who invented the plumbing for the toilet when he was 19 in response to a Royal Decree from Queen Victoria in the very early 20th century. The plumbing remains the same today.


That's as cliche as it gets. North people would have eaten up that sort of talk. What do you do if you are an old white business man? You select a minority and a female and tell everyone just how nice you are. I don't blame you because saying all the right things is what big business / politicians do. Slick as oil.

A vote for Paul is basically a vote for a business version of Chadwiko. If you're going to go down that route I'd prefer to vote Sonja because she's already one step ahead of you given the area she works in. Snake, Jean, and co. were right to be skeptical.

He's not a business man.

He's a classic bureaucrat, local government aaparatchik.

The type some here claim to despise.
 
Remember all the criticism of Sonja as a social worker?

Crapper is a straight up bureaucrat. Local government into quangos. Nothing especially successful beyond bssic career ladder climbing.

The type the anti social worker sooks said they hated.

Yet here they are dancing on the heads of pins to justify voting for him.

What a joke.
 
He's not a business man.

He's a classic bureaucrat, local government aaparatchik.

The type some here claim to despise.
100%

As I said, if I was running I would have done the same. If it's that transparent after a few posts you've done a poor job.

As for Snake I can only assume he's turned pro-Crapper because of his aversion to someone like Sonja and what she stands for. Whilst I'm skeptical of Sonja I can at least respect someone that stands for something. We'd know where we stand with Sonja. We know both are good die hard North fans. With Crapper he'd sell us out in a heart beat just so the cool kids speak to him during lunch. He reeks of boys club and that's exactly what we don't want.
 
There's some very threatened folks posting at the moment.

I say to the members that you should give thought to all of the candidates in a balanced manner, and vote according to your reasoning, without regard to any orchestrated character assassinations that are being conducted by biased, self interested people.

Don't allow yourselves to be manipulated by lowbrow crud.
 
You're another alt account coward whi is here because of fear & control.

I’m not bothered either way, but isn’t Snake_Baker an alt account? Mario Lothario Teffy?

They could also be here because they love the football club and come out of hibernation when the club is in trouble.

Which is a good thing.
 
You're another alt account coward whi is here because of fear & control.
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You're clearly not as smart as you profess to be...

Amazing how rattled someone like Sonja has you. You've gone full conspiracy mode.

The closest I am to the club at the moment is knowing Twinkletoes as a mod, who played with Silvangi, who played against North.
 
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You're clearly not as smart as you profess to be...

Amazing how rattled someone like Sonja has you. You've gone full conspiracy mode.

The closest I am to the club at the moment is knowing Twinkletoes as a mod, who played with Silvangi, who played against North.

..............and you just amazingly appeared out of nowhere on February 2nd to post in this particular thread (5/9 posts).

Pure coincidence. :D

Farewell alt account 34,620,348
 
..............and you just amazingly appeared out of nowhere on February 2nd to post in this particular thread (5/9 posts).

Pure coincidence. :D
It's the off season. I thought you and Jean would have this covered. Your anti-Sonja bias allowed you to be deceived. It's for all to see. You'd vote in Hitler over Sonja. Because of your stubborness you've doubled down. I wouldn't be surprised if you started handing out leaflets for Crapper by the end of the day.
 

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While on field success is ultimately what we all want I don’t think it’s the only solution. Look at the Doggies who have been pretty good since their flag but don’t have a lot to show for it. Hawthorn is more interesting in how they have been able to turn around the rabble that place was in the mid-late 90’s to what it is now. Maybe if we all sign up our pets the AFL media will get off our case

???????????

Dogs have been flying since their flag. They were a couple more shit seasons from the wall without it.
 
Hey Paul Crapper ... you know when you were at the Victorian Building Authority, were you involved in the decisions that led to the city being covered in dangerous flammable cladding?
 
There's also going to be massive sponsorship opportunities from the big construction firms who are buying up the land around Arden metro to build apartments.

And we have those f***ers over a barrel too, this is where we can be properly ruthless - oh hey Grollo or Lend/Lease, building a 50 story apartment across the road from our grand, that'll be a million bucks in sponsorship thanks.

Oh, don't want to pay, we've just put a whole raft of objections about your project, and the dust, and the trucks, and the fu**en music your tradies play into council.

Oh, costing you tens of thousands a day the delays are? Here's the dotted line fu**o.

THIS is the kind of stuff I wanted to hear from Crappers, not a bunch of motherhood statements I can get from any mid level bureaucrat in local government.

For starters:

1. Grocon pulled out of Victoria after VCCC and the Emporium blockades.

2. - Construction firms aren't the developers (other than a select few, but are seperate entities) and have nothing to do with the TP submission. Most of the large apartment developers (apart from the large Super aligned firms like CBUS property) are multinationals out of Malaysia, Japan and China.

3. - They get all those objections and complaints anyway.

4. - Most radio's are banned by the major builders onsite.

5. Tens of thousands? A lot more than that.

6. A multi-billion dollar multinational developer has a little bit more sway with inner city councilors and MP's, over a football club (who's only a tenant on council owned land) with a few TP objections and noise complaints.


If Crapper suggested this, he'd lose my vote for it being very naive....


Knowing most of the directors of the major firms in this state, Collingwood, Carlton, Richmond and Essendon are getting sponsorship before us, none of the top dogs support North. Even then, there's literally no advantage to AFL sponsorship for any of the tier 1 construction firms, other than it being a personal preference. With most of the main firms now publicly listed, it isn't happening.



They are far more likely to sponsor something like the Huddle, like most industries, the top end of the construction industry is mad for cultural and sexual diversity with the government kickbacks involved atm.
 
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Hey Paul Crapper ... you know when you were at the Victorian Building Authority, were you involved in the decisions that led to the city being covered in dangerous flammable cladding?

Good question. No I wasn’t. As you will read in the press, Victoria has a privatised building system, where builders and building surveyors must ensure compliance with the Building Code. The issue stems from lack of compliance. The VBA are now bringing those non/compliances to account.
 

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Hey Paul Crapper ... you know when you were at the Victorian Building Authority, were you involved in the decisions that led to the city being covered in dangerous flammable cladding?

lol jesus didnt see that one coming
 
Good question. No I wasn’t. As you will read in the press, Victoria has a privatised building system, where builders and building surveyors must ensure compliance with the Building Code. The issue stems from lack of compliance. The VBA are now bringing those non/compliances to account.

So you were there when the regulator DIDN'T ensure the system worked?

Judging by your LinkedIN - which you have invited us all to read - you were there 1997-2013, IE, the period when all this shit happened.

It was someone else's fault?
 
Yeah but their membership numbers are still poor

They are better than ours. They also paid all their debt off and increased revenues and used the boost to secure the land deal around the Western Oval.
 
I'm suspecting the wide scale slaughter of innocent children by this evening

Well no, but if this guy is involved the org that allowed half the city to catch fire any minute, not sure I want him at my football club.
 
Well no, but if this guy is involved the org that allowed half the city to catch fire any minute, not sure I want him at my football club.

A bit of an extreme jump in logic, wouldn't you think?
 

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