NMFC Board Elections

[GreatBradScott]

A bit of an extreme jump in logic, wouldn't you think?

Not sure there is anything defensible about the VBA, quite frankly.

 

[Del191229]

Paul Crapper ... from the LinkedIn you direct us to.

Planning Minister Richard Wynne has appointed former Victorian Liberal premier Ted Baillieu and former Labor deputy premier John Thwaites to lead an urgent probe into identifying dangerous buildings.

It is understood the taskforce could investigate thousands of properties built over the past 12 years, with a focus on high-rise apartments

Victorian government appoints Ted Baillieu to lead urgent probe into flammable cladding

Government taskforce could lead to prosecutions over non-compliant or dangerous buildings.

www.theage.com.au

That Age yarn I've linked in from 2017.

"Over the past 12 years" would indicate the taskforce is investigating the period 2017-2005.

You were there 1997-2013.

So they were investigating a significant period of time you were there.

You were the CFO during that time and say your responsibilities included:

Portfolio responsibilities for Victoria's regulators of the building and plumbing industries include strategic alignment of the corporate functions of the two Commissions, strategic financial management and reporting, strategic corporate and business planning, strategic communications and stakeholder relations, risk management, insurance management, quality assurance, contract management, facilities management and industry outcomes measurement.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-crapper-faicd-fcpa-62778321/

So a taskforce was formed, comprised of bi-partisan former Premiers, to investigate the organisation where you were a senior executive, CFO nonetheless, because its actions or lack of actions - business planning, stakeholder relations, RISK MANANGEMENT - led to a situation where billions of dollars will need to be spent to rectify the cladding issue?

Some risk management skills you got there mate.

Cheers,

R

 

[King Corey]

What's your angle here JeanLucGoddard ?

Concern for the club?

A wish to dismantle Paul's reputation?

 

[Del191229]

What's your angle here JeanLucGoddard ?

Concern for the club?

A wish to dismantle Paul's reputation?

Concern for the club.

He's putting himself up for election, running on a governance angle, yet this is here.

For the record, yes of course I will be voting for Sonja, and Buckley, but I'd actually prefer someone to Archer on the board, a genuine member's candidate or advocate.

I would happily have voted for Paul if he could:

- answer basic questions about what he would actually do on the board
- Not immediately descend into aggressive intimidation tactics when challenged

He can't do those thing, just kept pointing me to his LinkedIn.

So I have looked and I have some questions.

 

[Del191229]

And no, he didn't endear himself to me with his bullshit "Oh I accidentally pressed shift and r simultaneously to create the first letters of your name" when anyone can see that someone has PMd him ... oh I wonder who, who could it be, which master operator ... and then he's immediately gone for that.

I actually have a series of DETAILED follow up questions for Paul Crapper on this stuff

He's told us here he's VERY EXPERIENCED with media, so I'm sure he's a big boy and can look after himself in that regard.

 

[King Corey]

Concern for the club.

He's putting himself up for election, running on a governance angle, yet this is here.

For the record, yes of course I will be voting for Sonja, and Buckley, but I'd actually prefer someone to Archer on the board, a genuine member's candidate or advocate.

I would happily have voted for Paul if he could:

- answer basic questions about what he would actually do on the board
- Not immediately descend into aggressive intimidation tactics when challenged

He can't do those thing, just kept pointing me to his LinkedIn.

So I have looked and I have some questions.

Fair enough. Valid concerns.

IMO you've also been a little rabid in your approach but that said he seems like a big boy and can probably fend for himself.

 

[King Corey]

He's told us here he's VERY EXPERIENCED with media, so I'm sure he's a big boy and can look after himself in that regard.

Snap.

Let's make out.

 

[Del191229]

Fair enough. Valid concerns.

IMO you've also been a little rabid in your approach but that said he seems like a big boy and can probably fend for himself.

Go read the thread mate.

I'm perfectly fine and polite until he decides to be a big man and drop my name - I have eaten and shat out bureaucratic pissants like him before breakfast in my time - so now we play by big boys rules.

Miss, he started it. Then lied about it.

 

[Del191229]

Snap.

Let's make out.

Take the sleeping pill and get in the cold bath and I'll be over in halfa.

 

[Paul Crapper]

So you were there when the regulator DIDN'T ensure the system worked?

Judging by your LinkedIN - which you have invited us all to read - you were there 1997-2013, IE, the period when all this shit happened.

It was someone else's fault?

Those responsible to comply under the Building Code ie the law in Victoria.

In all fairness and due respect, I didn’t run for the NMFC Board for people to try to defame me on social media.

I only have good things to say about the people also contesting the election, so don’t expect anything from me against anyone.

 

[King Corey]

Go read the thread mate.

I'm perfectly fine and polite until he decides to be a big man and drop my name - I have eaten and shat out bureaucratic pissants like him before breakfast in my time - so now we play by big boys rules.

Miss, he started it. Then lied about it.

The name drop was poor form. No argument there.

However everyone makes mistakes and moreso there's a raft of effective people in football and other organisations who wouldn't be above similarly petty moves. It would be pretty confronting to wander into an established social structure and find yourself under attack even if you signed up (literally) for it.

But again it was a wrong step and you were justified to flare up against it.

I've no doubt you've got the ability to hunt and knock down targets. But that's the thing, is this a game of conquest for you?

There wouldn't be any current board member you couldn't pull apart working at a vulnerability in a similar way.

 

[Del191229]

There wouldn't be any current board member you couldn't pull apart working at a vulnerability in a similar way.

I did the same on I think Paul Dwyer when Sonja was nominated, his online insurance experience I think it was.

 

[Del191229]

Those responsible to comply under the Building Code ie the law in Victoria.

In all fairness and due respect, I didn’t run for the NMFC Board for people to try to defame me on social media.

I only have good things to say about the people also contesting the election, so don’t expect anything from me against anyone.

Mate, I'm not defaming you in any way. With your extensive media experience surely you have a basic understanding of defamation law.

I'm just asking questions about your experience which you publicly invited us to do.

 

[Del191229]

Those responsible to comply under the Building Code ie the law in Victoria.

So what exactly were you doing at the VBA?

And what exactly will you do on the NMFC board?

 

[King Corey]

So what exactly were you doing at the VBA?

And what exactly will you do on the NMFC board?

Dude seriously... what sane person can sprout about what specific contribution they'll make as part of a team they're not yet part of and have never yet experienced?

He's already listed his own interpretation of his skills and experiences.

 

[The Other Dean]

100%

As I said, if I was running I would have done the same. If it's that transparent after a few posts you've done a poor job.

As for Snake I can only assume he's turned pro-Crapper because of his aversion to someone like Sonja and what she stands for. Whilst I'm skeptical of Sonja I can at least respect someone that stands for something. We'd know where we stand with Sonja. We know both are good die hard North fans. With Crapper he'd sell us out in a heart beat just so the cool kids speak to him during lunch. He reeks of boys club and that's exactly what we don't want.

To be fair, Groin, as the board's handpicked selection, Sonja's candidacy does have a certain air of 'boy's club' about it, too.

That's not a knock on Sonja obviously. (Nor is it an endorsement of Crapper.) She will be a fine addition to the board, IMO. But on the face of what we know - rather than conclusions drawn by reading between the lines (refer bolded) - hers is clearly the candidacy with the inside track.

 

[Pykie]

Hey Paul Crapper ... you know when you were at the Victorian Building Authority, were you involved in the decisions that led to the city being covered in dangerous flammable cladding?

Do you know anything about this topic at all?

 

[Del191229]

Do you know anything about this topic at all?

That's why I'm asking him.

 

[SirAlex]

What's your angle here JeanLucGoddard ?

Concern for the club?

A wish to dismantle Paul's reputation?

Hired goon propagandist for Sonja.

As am I. I assume you are too King Corey.

See you at the next hired gun meeting.

 

[Del191229]

Hired goon propagandist for Sonja.

As am I. I assume you are too King Corey.

See you at the next hired gun meeting.

Hired? I'm heart and soul here, doing it for free.

 

[SirAlex]

To be fair, Groin, as the board's handpicked selection, Sonja's candidacy does have a certain air of 'boy's club' about it, too.

That's not a knock on Sonja obviously. (Nor is it an endorsement of Crapper.) She will be a fine addition to the board, IMO. But on the face of what we know - rather than conclusions drawn by reading between the lines (refer bolded) - hers is clearly the candidacy with the inside track.

How much is Paul paying you?

 

[Firestarter]

Hired goon propagandist for Sonja.

As am I. I assume you are too King Corey.

See you at the next hired gun meeting.

"Hired goons?" *gets yoinked away*

 

[King Corey]

How much is Paul paying you?

Feel so conflicted.

 

[Del191229]

Wait until I run for the board in a few years.

On a platform of making the players wear dresses at all times.

 

[Firestarter]

Feel so conflicted.

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We can at least be confident that they never went to clown college. That's where the AFL hire its CEOs.