NMFC statement re Australia Day

[Marstermind]

I think we should changed the date. Every other month has a 26th and counts in order by 1s. So let's start at the 1st so we still get New Years Day and then count by 2s so we just have the odd numbers. Problem solved.

 

[Intothewind]

i like the idea of keep the date, but in the Morning its for Mourning, and then in the afternoon, PM stands for Party Mode.

A little bit like Anzac day.

 

[DuckYeah]

i like the idea of keep the date, but in the Morning its for Mourning, and then in the afternoon, PM stands for Party Mode.

A little bit like Anzac day.

I can get around this.

I didn’t mind the concept if May 8 .., Maaaate day

 

[Tas]

With Trump ruling the roost, it’s a big test for people to show what they’re really made of right now. The inclination is to bow down - if it doesn’t directly affect you. If your values aren’t hard and fast right now, you can’t complain when the Overton window shifts drastically.

The reality is any day you pick for Australia Day is ultimately still going to be Invasion Day. Maybe my history is fuzzy but I don't remember the English coming here all guns blazing on the day they arrived, the shit started to happen some time afterwards so I don't understand what will change shifting the day to some other day. It will always be symbolic of the indigenous people losing their country and losing their right of self determination.

Ultimately, my preference would be to ditch our English royal overlords, become a republic, make a proper constitution with a bill of rights that has proper protections, like freedom of speech that can't be whittled away like every government has since the high court said we had freedom of speech and then move Australia Day to when the republic forms.

But people will bitch about that as well, you are just not ever going to make everyone happy and people who want political power and influence and the grift that comes with having political power, they are going to agitate regardless what you do because there is always someone that is prepared to step all over people when it serves themselves.

Australia Day means nothing to me, even though I consider myself to be pro Australia and somewhat patriotic... not of the symbolism of it, but of the people, the community as a whole and that includes first nation people. I understand this day pisses them off and I am happy to change it... it just isn't isn't going to make any difference.

We need to find a point where we can just move forward as a unified nation, because a thousand years from now there will not be any pureblood indigenous people left, the gene pool is going to mix and there wont be anyone left. America is only 250 years old and there are no pureblood Indians left. It is just generics,when you have 28m people and 1m first nation... if you mix a drink that is 1 part alcohol and 27 parts water it is going to taste like water. We are dealing with the here and the now issues, but these will just be footnotes in history books in the future. I do not want to diminish what anyone is feeling and anything we can do to make people feel better we should do... but I think if people understood the inevitability of us merging and what a disproportional mix will end up looking like, we know enough about the science to know what that is going to look like.

Ironically, it has really only been racism and the frowning of mixed marriages until recent times that kept the first nation bloodlines as pure as they are currently, but those days are over and if indigenous footballers are anything to go by then assimilation is in full swing.

On one hand I think it is great that we will eventually become one and united through genetics, but it somewhat sad that a people that endured for many thousands of years will eventually cease as they used to be.

Do people think this is going to pan out differently?

 

[danj]

There is every possibility we dont have an indigenous player on the list next year.

Will the club still be located in Australia?

 

[ferball]

Its been Jan 26 since the 40’s. The public holiday component has changed. Not the date.

So what you're saying is the date has already changed multiple times.

Do you know who else has a national day on Jan 26th?

India.

That's the day they stopped being a British colony and became an independent nation.

We celebrate the day the British invaded our homeland and subjugated it for 113 years.

 

[ferball]

Ultimately, my preference would be to ditch our English royal overlords, become a republic, make a proper constitution with a bill of rights that has proper protections, like freedom of speech that can't be whittled away like every government has since the high court said we had freedom of speech and then move Australia Day to when the republic forms.

Me too.

On one hand I think it is great that we will eventually become one and united through genetics, but it somewhat sad that a people that endured for many thousands of years will eventually cease as they used to be.

Do people think this is going to pan out differently?

That's not how it works.

If you have one g-g-grandmother who was indigenous and can prove it the mob she belonged to consider you one of them.

Its the opposite of the sort of racial purity ethno-nationalists push as an ideology. There's no pure bloodlines. That's something European aristocrats get off on, and why they **** their family members. Some indigenous people might say that stuff, because they're frustrated and ****ed up and have nothing but their identity and no one gives that any value, but most don't.

I've had this discussion with blackfellas and basically heard this:

"One day everyone will have a little bit of blackfella in them from somewhere ... and hopefully when that happens people will start looking after this country the way we should."

 

[WesternRoo]

The club should focus on football and not politics. Particularly views that are out of step with the majority of Australians.

 

[DuckYeah]

With Trump ruling the roost, it’s a big test for people to show what they’re really made of right now. The inclination is to bow down - if it doesn’t directly affect you. If your values aren’t hard and fast right now, you can’t complain when the Overton window shifts drastically.

You think this is only happening since that alleged pedo Trump got in power? Hahahaha its been like this since ive been alive

 

[Krakouer Bonar]

You think this is only happening since that alleged pedo Trump got in power? Hahahaha its been like this since ive been alive

There are no allegations. Just Lefty conspiracies and tenuous links between he and Epstein.

 

[Tas]

Me too.



That's not how it works.

If you have one g-g-grandmother who was indigenous and can prove it the mob she belonged to consider you one of them.

Its the opposite of the sort of racial purity ethno-nationalists push as an ideology. There's no pure bloodlines. That's something European aristocrats get off on, and why they **** their family members. Some indigenous people might say that stuff, because they're frustrated and ****ed up and have nothing but their identity and no one gives that any value, but most don't.

I've had this discussion with blackfellas and basically heard this:

"One day everyone will have a little bit of blackfella in them from somewhere ... and hopefully when that happens people will start looking after this country the way we should."

I am just saying at a certain point in time, everyone will be part indigenous unless they are recent migrants.

So this Us vs Them things is something that is only going to be an issue in the present and near future, it will become less of an issue over time.

Regardless, I think Australia Day is a largely meaningless celebration and most people just get on the piss, don't really do anything to celebrate it, it is just another day off so I don't care if we move it or get rid of it.

 

[Krakouer Bonar]

So what you're saying is the date has already changed multiple times.

Do you know who else has a national day on Jan 26th?

India.

That's the day they stopped being a British colony and became an independent nation.

We celebrate the day the British invaded our homeland and subjugated it for 113 years.

"Invaded"?

Imagine it had have been Dutch, or Spanish explorers who decided to "invade" rather than the British.

 

[ferball]

"Invaded"?

Imagine it had have been Dutch, or Spanish explorers who decided to "invade" rather than the British.

It would have been much the same.

Might have had better national cuisine or no stupid laws against weed tho.

 

[DuckYeah]

There are no allegations. Just Lefty conspiracies and tenuous links between he and Epstein.

Nah? Just publicly admitting to walking into the girls rooms at pageants he run looking at em all nude. Nah. Nothing to see here.

 

[Caracas]

You think this is only happening since that alleged pedo Trump got in power? Hahahaha its been like this since ive been alive

Very true.

 

[ferball]

There are no allegations. Just Lefty conspiracies and tenuous links between he and Epstein.

 

[Krakouer Bonar]

Nah? Just publicly admitting to walking into the girls rooms at pageants he run looking at em all nude. Nah. Nothing to see here.

The girls were adults. He's a perv, not the other P word.

Keep going...

 

[Krakouer Bonar]

It would have been much the same.

Might have had better national cuisine or no stupid laws against weed tho.

Good point(s).......

Tucking into a thumping paella whilst having a quiet little smoke, I see THAT being quite a life!

 

[DuckYeah]

The girls were adults. He's a perv, not the other P word.

Keep going...

While Elite’s official brochure stated that contestants were aged between 14 and 24, all of those the Guardian has spoken to, competing in both years, were aged between 14 and 19.

That is nothing short of abhorrent.

 

[Chadwiko]

There are no allegations. Just Lefty conspiracies and tenuous links between he and Epstein.

This is the single most 'nuff nuff' post I've seen on these boards in quite some time.

 

[ferball]

The girls were adults. He's a perv, not the other P word.

Keep going...

I think you'll find they weren't all adults.

 

[DuckYeah]

I think you'll find they weren't all adults.

They’re in a cult mate. Its pathetic rotten shit.

 

[gerry101101]

There are no allegations. Just Lefty conspiracies and tenuous links between he and Epstein.

 

[DuckYeah]

Next Krakour Cooker will tell us that Alex Pretty was brandishing a gun and was a threat to federal border dogs because they said so. Flat out lies, lies upon lies upon lies. So many lies they try and make you believe what you are seeing isnt real. Just like those Epstein files, release the files… everything is redacted. Why? Lock up all those ****ing maggots. Who cares which side of politics they are on, if Clinton fiddled kids, lock the campaigner up and throw him in mainstream.

Anyone that believes those elite dogs lies is a flat out piece of shit.

 

[The Anvil]

I haven't heard it but that's what I was told. I think his name is James MacPherson.

James MacPherson isn't just a Roos supporter, he is an absolute North Melbourne tragic.

He has an amazing story where it comes to the Roos related to his adopted kids (I don't personally know him, I've heard him tell the story though).