News NMFC & Tassie (the mass debate re our future there, the academy, attending advice)

[boncer34]

We're helping Tasmania get a women's side up & running as a part of their ongoing development for stand alone sides.

I expect we will cut them loose in 3-5 years.

There is no rational threat from Tasmania. None. All you have to do is look at the math.

You envisage in 4 or 5 years time Tassie will have its own AFLW team and North will also have one?

 

[Tas]

Hawthorn play the 4. I see why they do that because they also play 7 home games at the G and actually only leave Victoria another 4 times to play at interstate venues.
That is where we are at a disadvantage. We dont get that extra game in Melbourne. That extra goes interstate.
Hawks have a 7-4-4 set up.
North have a 8-3-5 set up.

So by not selling the 4th game we have to go to the SCG, Perth or Adelaide Oval.

Also, the Hawks replacement games at the G dont entitle them to reserved seating. Only Forwards has looked into this and Im with him in stating I want 3 away games at the G as its a larger stadium and have all our replacement games there.

Hawks only move shithouse games to Launceston, that is a significant difference given we are expected to play teams like Carlton, Collingwood and Richmond away from Melbourne while we host drawing powerhouses like Fremantle, Gold Coast and Port Adelaide in Melbourne.

 

[Snake_Baker]

You envisage in 4 or 5 years time Tassie will have its own AFLW team and North will also have one?

I envision they have one and we don't, but it's assured that the Tasmanian element will break away on its own.

 

[King Corey]

We're helping Tasmania get a women's side up & running as a part of their ongoing development for stand alone sides.

I expect we will cut them loose in 3-5 years.

There is no rational threat from Tasmania. None. All you have to do is look at the math.

AFL seem quite prepared to underwrite weak markets when it suits them. That would be the bigger threat than Tasmania suddenly experiencing a resources boom.

 

[Only Forwards]

Also, the Hawks replacement games at the G dont entitle them to reserved seating. Only Forwards has looked into this and Im with him in stating I want 3 away games at the G as its a larger stadium and have all our replacement games there.

I can't recall the specifics.

But having our 'replacement games' at Etihad is a f***ing joke.

Essendon Ffs.

They have enough members to fill the stadium on their own yet were scheduled against them for a 'replacement game'?

I have zero issue with this taking place at the G. Fit in all their members and ours and have it on a Friday night. It would make for a cracking game.

None of those things will eventuate and the idea that we are maximizing crowds or gate returns is all bullshit.

We're playing out some misguided stop gap measures to feed Tasmanians games and sew seeds of reliance on the dollars generated.

North should rarely play a Melbourne side in Hobart. We should also never have a replacement game at Etihad.

The AFL just talk s**t and push agendas.

 

[tazaa]

Hawks only move shithouse games to Launceston, that is a significant difference given we are expected to play teams like Carlton, Collingwood and Richmond away from Melbourne while we host drawing powerhouses like Fremantle, Gold Coast and Port Adelaide in Melbourne.

They do have it better off than we do. They have played 60 games in Launceston. Hawthorns list of opponents over the years are:

Brisbane, Fremantle 9
West Coast, 7
North, Port Adelaide, Gold Coast 5
Adelaide, St. Kilda, Bulldogs 4
GWS, Sydney 2
Carlton, Richmond, Geelong 1
Collingwood, Essendon, Melbourne 0

North have played 18 games in Hobart. Norths list of opponents over the years are:
GWS, 3
Adelaide, Melbourne, Port, Richmond, Sydney, St. Kilda, West Coast 2
Carlton, 1
Brisbane, Collingwood, Essendon, Fremantle, Geelong, Gold Coast, Hawthorn, Bulldogs 0

Before this year our fixtures in Hobart have been raffled amongst 8 teams. Carlton makes it 9.
Playing Carlton, Richmond in Hobart makes no sense and should never have been fixtured. Playing GWS and Carlton in the same year in Hobart was done to offset the loss of playing the Giants. Its ****ed.
The attendance in Hobart correlates with how well the team is travelling. They arent just going to show up regardless.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

There is no rational threat from Tasmania. None. All you have to do is look at the math.

There was no rational threat from the Gold Coast either.

nek minnit

 

[blackshadow]

I've just written to our CEO and Chairman asking for no extra games in Hobart and for improvements to the replacement game experience along with embracing a long term strategy to grow our crowds and members in Melbourne so we can decrease games in Hobart.

 

[Rogue Roo]

Can someone anti Tassie run for the board please?

Happy to invest time and money to get you on.

 

[Only Forwards]

Can someone anti Tassie run for the board please?

Happy to invest time and money to get you on.

It wouldn't matter.

Our board is installed by incumbents and our member base is largely inactive unless it's battle stations.

 

[Dan]

I've just written to our CEO and Chairman asking for no extra games in Hobart and for improvements to the replacement game experience along with embracing a long term strategy to grow our crowds and members in Melbourne so we can decrease games in Hobart.

 

[Snake_Baker]

There was no rational threat from the Gold Coast either.

nek minnit

Not even in the same solar system by way of comparison.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

Not even in the same solar system by way of comparison.

I thought there was only one solar system. By definition, then, if it is in a solar system, it is in our solar system.

Adding to the irony of your post is the name of the Gold Coast franchise which was created when North escaped the clutches of death.

In a final twist of delicious irony, Hobart records more total sunny or partly sunny days each year, on average, than Melbourne.

https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/Australia/Cities/sunshine-annual-average.php

If I were still capable of displaying human emotions, your post would have left me looking like Vlad in that picture.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Doesn't a solar system relate to everything revolving around a single star?

So, there would be thousands of solar systems. Millions, probably.

 

[Zondor]

Doesn't a solar system relate to everything revolving around a single star?

So, there would be thousands of solar systems. Millions, probably.

There is only one Solar System. Ours. The others are called Planetary Systems. :stern look

 

[Colbys Boots]

North should rarely play a Melbourne side in Hobart. We should also never have a replacement game at Etihad.

The AFL just talk s**t and push agendas.

There are two entirely separate arrangements involved that you evidently misunderstand.

The replacement games have nothing whatsoever to do with the AFL. NMFC negotiates this with opposition clubs AFTER the fixture has been released and takes the best 3 deals on offer. It comes down to who offers NMFC the best financial terms. Member comfort is given zero consideration (and we MUST remember that).

With the Hobart games, you have to remember that these games are underwritten by the Tasmanian Government via their Spirit of Tasmania marketing budget. For them to get return on investment, they insist on Melbourne teams. There is much less value for them when Fremantle or Gold Coast or Port Adelaide or GWS plays in Hobart because supporters won't use the Spirit of Tasmania. This is what they are paying for so we have to cop Melbourne opponents in Hobart at least some of the time, or else give up the Tasmania dollars. The AFL is not scheduling us Melbourne opponents in Hobart against the club's wishes. The club is complicit in that 100%.

 

[boncer34]

Noone is travelling to Hobart for a footy game on the spirit of Tasmania.

 

[Only Forwards]

There are two entirely separate arrangements involved that you evidently misunderstand.

The replacement games have nothing whatsoever to do with the AFL. NMFC negotiates this with opposition clubs AFTER the fixture has been released and takes the best 3 deals on offer. It comes down to who offers NMFC the best financial terms. Member comfort is given zero consideration (and we MUST remember that).

With the Hobart games, you have to remember that these games are underwritten by the Tasmanian Government via their Spirit of Tasmania marketing budget. For them to get return on investment, they insist on Melbourne teams. There is much less value for them when Fremantle or Gold Coast or Port Adelaide or GWS plays in Hobart because supporters won't use the Spirit of Tasmania. This is what they are paying for so we have to cop Melbourne opponents in Hobart at least some of the time, or else give up the Tasmania dollars. The AFL is not scheduling us Melbourne opponents in Hobart against the club's wishes. The club is complicit in that 100%.

Cool.

The AFL want us playing games down there.

To continue playing games in Hobart our #1 request from fixturing should be to the AFL to play all bigger clubs at the G.

Once this occurs we can negotiate the replacements.

How much correlation do you actually think there is between our games and spirit of Tasmania travel? In the middle of winter, where people would disembark then drive 4 hours.

The spirit of Tasmania is a guise to filter state funds to play football in Hobart.

Sure the Tas state Government want us to play Melbourne sides.

That doesn't mean we should.

From a pure revenue for the club perspective, when we play Carlton in Hobart and Gold Coast in Melbourne, we do ourselves a disservice.

 

[King Corey]

Noone is travelling to Hobart for a footy game on the spirit of Tasmania.

That's bullshit. Everyone who ever travels to Tasmania does so on the Spirit of Tasmania and was inspired by North Melbourne. : $ternlook

 

[Only Forwards]

Noone is travelling to Hobart for a footy game on the spirit of Tasmania.

They'd be few and far between.

Someone who can take leave and wants to drive their car to Hobart.

The amount of people that would do this for football annually would be lucky total 20

 

[Chadwiko]

I envision they have one and we don't, but it's assured that the Tasmanian element will break away on its own.

There is no path forward in the AFLW where the competition exists and North Melbourne aren't fielding a team.

The AFLW is an integral part of North Melbourne's future.

 

[Tas]

The license was granted to the North Melbourne Football Club. Only AFL clubs can hold AFLW licenses. We were given priority in having our license granted because we were prepared to play half of the games in Tasmania and have a pathway for Tasmanian ladies into the AFLW which would help to fast track the development of AFLW players, something the code needs if it has a hope of expanding as rapidly as they desire.

 

[Mr north man]

Cool.

The AFL want us playing games down there.

To continue playing games in Hobart our #1 request from fixturing should be to the AFL to play all bigger clubs at the G.

Once this occurs we can negotiate the replacements.

How much correlation do you actually think there is between our games and spirit of Tasmania travel? In the middle of winter, where people would disembark then drive 4 hours.

The spirit of Tasmania is a guise to filter state funds to play football in Hobart.

Sure the Tas state Government want us to play Melbourne sides.

That doesn't mean we should.

From a pure revenue for the club perspective, when we play Carlton in Hobart and Gold Coast in Melbourne, we do ourselves a disservice.

The only way the AFL will deal with us if our membership gets off its arse and start attending games Home and away whether it's Marvel Hobart or interstate.
As a club should be trying to get big crowds every time we play

 

[Colbys Boots]

Cool.

From a pure revenue for the club perspective, when we play Carlton in Hobart and Gold Coast in Melbourne, we do ourselves a disservice.

If Tasmania says the money they pay is contingent upon Melbourne teams playing there at least 1 out of 3 times, then you have it very wrong regarding pure revenue. Playing Carlton at Etihad instead of Gold Coast really doesn't make that much difference to the bottom line. The money we make from gate takings is pretty modest even with a decent crowd.

 

[boncer34]

If Tasmania says the money they pay is contingent upon Melbourne teams playing there at least 1 out of 3 times, then you have it very wrong regarding pure revenue. Playing Carlton at Etihad instead of Gold Coast really doesn't make that much difference to the bottom line. The money we make from gate takings is pretty modest even with a decent crowd.

The deals were different then weren't they?