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Re Pokies.The idea that we are in a position to have 11 home games in Melb is farcical - we need that revenue and sponsorship.
So unless as a membership base we have 5mil a year laying around, we need those games in Tassie, and for the afl to believe that financially it is not feasible to have a team in Tassie.
People talk about extra revenue streams - we had one, but chose to leave it (pokies) which was a great move socially. Was it financially?
This administration knows how to manage a balance sheet, and if they aren't panicking about how this Tassie ultimatum pans out then they must have something up their sleave. But I would bet they are genuinely concerned about the outcome of this.
Its great for members to romanticise about having 11 games in Melbourne, but we need to understand reality. We need this revenue.
>We'll give you a response on Friday
>Psyke! We didn't say which Friday, come back this time next year.
$5m now is it for 4 games? It's doubled in an afternoon.The idea that we are in a position to have 11 home games in Melb is farcical - we need that revenue and sponsorship.
So unless as a membership base we have 5mil a year laying around, we need those games in Tassie, and for the afl to believe that financially it is not feasible to have a team in Tassie.
People talk about extra revenue streams - we had one, but chose to leave it (pokies) which was a great move socially. Was it financially?
This administration knows how to manage a balance sheet, and if they aren't panicking about how this Tassie ultimatum pans out then they must have something up their sleave. But I would bet they are genuinely concerned about the outcome of this.
Its great for members to romanticise about having 11 games in Melbourne, but we need to understand reality. We need this revenue.
It's not $4m - it's not even $3m but let's assume it is.
The job of the Board/CEO is to find those sponsors and alternative revenue sources and they have 18 months to do so.
However let's say they could only find half of that ($1.5m) via an assortment of sponsors, events, big end of town donations- If 30,000 locally based NFMC supporters put in an extra $50 for a year or 2 that raises $1.5m pa and makes up the difference. In addition we dont claim the maximum we could off the afl distribution and we could add another mill for a couple of years there.
No one wants us to go back to the old days of debt build up but there are ways to raise revenue.
It's hard to do but we need to get off the Hobart teat and start building this club up from within Melbourne - utilising our key advantage of inner city accessibility, family/community club status (no pokies) and an exciting brand of footy.
It will take years/decades to do this but it's a better path forward than this co location nonsense (which has never worked for any professional club across the globe).
Re Pokies.
I looked at this re St Kilda a year or two back. They got a 10 year licence for pokies at their social club (around 2013-14), which cost them more than a million bucks upfront (which they had to borrow to do), plus an annual commitment of $500k or more. And these are commercial operations, so you need to hire people to run it, the CEO has to spend time thinking about it, you have to dedicate time at board meetings to keep on top of it, etc. And it adds less than a million bucks to their bottom line in a good year. It's so far away from the core business of a footy club that the cultural fit of those managers might be difficult to manage.
Not to mention the opportunity cost is massive (ie the time spent managing a pokies venue could be used to get more sponsors, build the membership base, concentrate on the footy department, etc).
For all the time spent on it, it's actually not that good a business to be in for a footy club.
Just like a real parent.Definitely a “yeah sure we’ll totally review it now go away” type of response
7000 Tasmanian membersIt be a short term hit. But more supporters would willing to invest in a reserve seat membership or and memberships in general if all our home games are back at Marvel Stadium.
I don't care.7000 Tasmanian members
It definitely helps. No doubt about that whatsoever. We didn't capitalise for various reasons on the 90's but make no mistake - we wouldn't even exist without them. I have zero doubt about that.
You are correct though that there is more to it.
For mine it comes back to being unique. We will never be the biggest. We apparently will never play as many games in Melbourne. We sure as sh*t won't ever get the fixture gifts that other clubs do - we need to find something that we can do to make our experience amazing, unique and powerful. Relying on winning isn't enough because there will always be down times. We have to be smarter, tougher, quicker and a hell of a lot nastier than other teams. That crazy old bat from the pre VFL days who attacked an umpire with a brolly - that should be our mascot internally. If we insist on a Kangaroo we shouldn't be the cute one - we should be one that kicks the living sh*t out of anyone that gets too close.
I appreciate your higher intentions to create game day experiences but your specifics seem a bit... I don't know... ugly? Galvanizing a whole section of the crowd to act like arseholes sledging one particular player can only end one way. The club ends up looking like the a-hole club. Or worse. What if the chosen player is indigenous? Then we look like the racist club. Or if the player reveals that he has been suffering from depression or that there was a death in the family. Then the club looks like utter campaigners.
How about galvanizing a section of the crowd to uplift one of our own? Pick out an unlikely cult figure, a battler or journeyman. Make him feel like a king for a day. Your section of the crowd still gets to feel engaged but without all the negativity.
I don't know about you but I go to the football to cheer on my team, not to scream abuse at the opposition.
Jesus H Christ, so when the Tasmanian membership is excluded, membership growth in real terms has only grown by ~1000 since the 2007 fightback?
That is ****ing deplorable.
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Just in time for March.It might be time to get some entrepreneurial types in the door.
Whether you support the recent admins or not, it can't be denied that they have ran out of ides.
Maybe if you *en well got one...Jesus H Christ, so when the Tasmanian membership is excluded, membership growth in real terms has only grown by ~1000 since the 2007 fightback?
That is ****ing deplorable.
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It’s easy to say win games of football and the rest will sort itself out. We knocked up winning games in the 90’s and we were on our knees by 2003.
Indeed. Our admin at the time was short sighted to put it mildly.Failure to capitalise off field in the immediate aftermath followed by Carey's shenanigans pretty much f’ed us there IMO.
I think better phrasing would be "win games of football and the rest will be a hell of a lot easier to sort out". But it can ultimately go both ways, you can capitalise off success or you can fumble it. If we did have a good run I think we might struggle to make highly significant membership gains, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if the corporate sponsorship floodgates opened.
Indeed. Our admin at the time was short sighted to put it mildly.
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