No children allowed at Fremantle???

[frenchconnection]

Then why come out and not so subtly attempt to force the trade through media pressure under the guise of family circumstances and West Coast being a better fit for his family? As I've said before and earlier in this thread, absolutely nothing wrong with Kelly needing to go home, you have to do what is right for your family and the bloke is OoC. It's the way they have played it out in the media that rubs me wrong, when the true motives are obvious as hell.

Either be true to the fact that you absolutely have to head back to Perth because of circumstances or be straight forward why you only specifically want to join one club that is in Perth.

The same goes for any player. Papley for example should be told by Sydney that unless Carlton can absolutely satisfy their demands (fortunately for us looks likely) he should reconsider his club choice. I would suggest all parties think it can be achieved, but if not... Papley should be told to either reconsider another destination or honour his contract. His use of the 'personal circumstances require me to be in VIC' whilst under contract, but I only want to be traded to Carlton doesn't really wash with me.



Had absolute respect for him coming out and saying that, because it was the truth. No heart string pulling nonsense. The clubs were able to work it out reasonably easily and don't really think WCE needed him all that much so was pretty spot on...

Was that Kelly though or his Manager and also the media. I think Kelly was quite respectful to Geelong and I can't recall him saying anything apart from the factWCE was his chosen Club?

 

[La Dispute]

So in between Tim Kelly’s Mrs publicly shitting on Geelong (the club that gave TK his AFL career) for holding him to his contract, emotionally blackmailing the AFL community for two years, keeping the only other club in WA at arms length for the duration, and Geelong being reimbursed the bare minimum for currently one of the best players in the league, it really is hard to enjoy the overall outcome.

They telegraphed their move for two years, and despite West Coast passing on TK in several drafts - including the very draft he went to Geelong in - the entitlement and petulance to get there is quite staggering.

 

[Altum Volantes]

So in between Tim Kelly’s Mrs publicly shitting on Geelong (the club that gave TK his AFL career) for holding him to his contract, emotionally blackmailing the AFL community for two years, keeping the only other club in WA at arms length for the duration, and Geelong being reimbursed the bare minimum for currently one of the best players in the league, it really is hard to enjoy the overall outcome.

They telegraphed their move for two years, and despite West Coast passing on TK in several drafts - including the very draft he went to Geelong in - the entitlement and petulance to get there is quite staggering.

Umm yeah...the bare minimum...

 

[TheKITC]

Was that Kelly though or his Manager and also the media. I think Kelly was quite respectful to Geelong and I can't recall him saying anything apart from the factWCE was his chosen Club?

Kelly's manager is Kelly. He represents him and his interests.

Everything that was aired through the media was done in order to leverage people/the AFL community emotionally and hence create a situation where Geelong could only deal with WC or wear the consequences. Rightly or wrongly, the populus opinion and certainly the one held by the greater media does have future consequences and effects for clubs. Kelly and his manager obviously knew this and played the sympathy card over and over despite anyone with a decent thought in their brain knowing the real motives.

I’m a Carlton supporter, who has absolutely no skin in the game.

What the actual fu** are you on about?

Had the same dispute with another poster, in another thread. Some over there are absolutely convinced that the Vic Media is evil, omnipotent, does trades, controls the game and has an axe to grind against all 'outside clubs' and all Victorians are in on it. Pretty bizarre and at times down right sad.

 

[masai]

Was that Kelly though or his Manager and also the media. I think Kelly was quite respectful to Geelong and I can't recall him saying anything apart from the factWCE was his chosen Club?

Tim has always come over as very respectful, unfortunately his missus and manager muddied the water a bit.

I’m no fan of player managers, but this manager seems very amateurish.

 

[dean33]

Why didn’t he just say he thought one team had a better younger list that would win a premiership before the other?

Seemed to work well for a certain Collingwood player...

 

[Farang83150]

People offended that his wife had the nerve to say what she thought and speak her mind, how dare she....

 

[samFFC]

Kelly is perceived to have broken the norm of players having little agency in determining where they end up so some people are triggered. Fair enough, players getting too big for their boots could spell trouble for the league down the track.

A few reasons he may have preferred West Coast:
+ possible personal issues with personnel at the club.
+ Fremantle is less stable, coach just fired.
+ West Coast is renowned as a destination club that gives massive support to players.
+ Players are actively trying to get out of Freo(what does this say about the environment?).
+ Kelly had a relationship with West Coast prior to being drafted.
+ Wants success soon.

Not an exhaustive list, but there's enough there for the triggered nuffies to chew on!

None of which relates to the stated reasons.

 

[Numero Uno]

None of which relates to the stated reasons.

you're right..he should documented all his reasons to you personally

 

[masai]

People offended that his wife had the nerve to say what she thought and speak her mind, how dare she....

Fair point, but when it comes to trades, the missus’s usually are seen but not heard.

How dare she ....... , remember when Mrs Pav was ridiculed for having the nerve to say what she thought about an incident.

All the best to Tim next season.

 

[samFFC]

you're right..he should documented all his reasons to you personally

It just seems disingenuous is all.
And seems strange that the Eagles have given up so much for him if there were the only possible trade partner.

 

[La Dispute]

People offended that his wife had the nerve to say what she thought and speak her mind, how dare she....

Nah the swipes last year were completely classless and disrespectful to Geelong, who gave TK his AFL start, and got the absolute most out of him. Their investment in him has now culminated in him getting a massive contract in his home state.

Geelong had every right to hold him to his contract, and TK’s Mrs comments in the aftermath of last year’s trade period were unbelievably petulant.

 

[Numero Uno]

It just seems disingenuous is all.
And seems strange that the Eagles have given up so much for him if there were the only possible trade partner.

lol he is pretty much the only player I can remember being constantly grilled about wanting to go home

 

[samFFC]

lol he is pretty much the only player I can remember being constantly grilled about wanting to go home

to West Coast** (EFA)

 

[samFFC]

yes because wanting to go home completely voids his right to choose a club

both cannot exist simultaneously

mind numbing logic..probably another halfwit freo conspiracy hey

In which case it's less about being 'home' and more about being at a specific club, like the various other players that have 'nominated' a club.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Players are too scared to say 'I'm going there because they're offering more money'.

I reckon even if Freo were offering more money (and they probably were because they can) he still would have chosen WC.

 

[samFFC]

which part of him nominating WC last year and this year did you miss ?

No part?
As I said, it seems disingenous, and seems strange that the Eagles have given up so much for him if they were the only possible trade partner.

 

[Rob]

I’m a Carlton supporter, who has absolutely no skin in the game.

What the actual fu** are you on about?

West Coast fans aren't used to anything but glowing praise lashed upon their club and players.

It's the result of decades of the local paper doubling as the club newsletter.

 

[Rod Stroker]

So in between Tim Kelly’s Mrs publicly shitting on Geelong (the club that gave TK his AFL career) for holding him to his contract, emotionally blackmailing the AFL community for two years, keeping the only other club in WA at arms length for the duration, and Geelong being reimbursed the bare minimum for currently one of the best players in the league, it really is hard to enjoy the overall outcome.

They telegraphed their move for two years, and despite West Coast passing on TK in several drafts - including the very draft he went to Geelong in - the entitlement and petulance to get there is quite staggering.

4 picks Inc 2 first rounders. Never been coughed up before for any other player.

"Bare minimum".

LOL!!

 

[Randomizor]

We are a ruthless club. No distractions.

 

[La Dispute]

4 picks Inc 2 first rounders. Never been coughed up before for any other player.

"Bare minimum".

LOL!!

One late first, another likely late first and a few mid-range picks for a top 5 league player.

It’s a passable deal for Geelong, but it had to be given how good Kelly is and how long they had to flesh it out.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Why would any decent player wanting to return home to WA chose Freo over the Eagles?

The Dockers have hardly got the pedigree or professionalism of West Coast. Why should Kelly be guilt tripped for joining a superior club and environment ??

 

[Numero Uno]

Why would any decent player wanting to return home to WA chose Freo over the Eagles?

The Dockers have hardly got the pedigree or professionalism of West Coast. Why should Kelly be guilt tripped for joining a superior club and environment ??

because some people (mind numbingly) believe wanting to go home voids your right to choosing a club

I want to move to Melbourne but but but you must live in Frankston
These people walk among us

 

[Corkintheocean]

The poor man's Fyfe???

The premiership Fyfe.

 

[radiojake]

how is it any different to when a player nominates a club in Melbourne when there is 9 of them (+ Geelong)

The fact Geelong managed to get 2 firsts and a 2nd round pick, which is more than what they paid for Dangerfield, I think they should be happy with it and just take it